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Mike Pence Gets "Boo'd" at HAMILTON Tonight — Page 9

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#202

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Last I heard, it's a free country. People are allowed to believe what they choose.

#203

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If they wanted to engage in an actual "conversation," I don't get why they didn't invite him backstage.

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But does anyone think we'll now see a toning down of the self-righteous, self-satisfied, self-serving sermonizing we've had to endure since the day the show opened?

Well, not as long as you insist on being the shining beacon of hypocrisy.


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#205

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beause when it comes to scum of the Earth like Pence, you need to blast it in his face, IN A PUBLIC SETTING WITH WITNESSES in the hope that it might penetrate that thick skull of his.

Although in this case, it looks like it penetrated Drumpf's thin skinned little ego instead.



Updated On: 11/19/16 at 10:04 PM

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Whistler3 said: "Last I heard, it's a free country. People are allowed to believe what they choose.



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I didn't know that freedom to choose religion includes forcing said religions down people's throats and into people's lives and homes via discriminatory laws which are thinly-veiled as religious freedom bills. OH THE IRONT!

#207

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"BoycottHamilton? Good luck with that."



If even one person now refuses to buy the cast album, or the book, or refuses to acquiesce to the hype, or even tunes it out entirely, then it would be all worthwhile.

So yes, let's wish this boycott the best of luck.



#208

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The cast recording went from number 14 on the iTunes charts to number 7 today. The majority of the tweets that made #BoycottHamilton trend were talking about how ridiculous it is to boycott a sold out show or people asking for Trump supporters tickets.





Updated On: 11/19/16 at 11:11 PM

#209

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Whistler3 said: "Last I heard, it's a free country. People are allowed to believe what they choose.



"

People have the freedom of religion, to an extent. Like how people have the freedom of speech, to an extent.


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#210

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Sorry, I love Hamilton, but they screwed up on this one. Sometimes you have to just admit when you're wrong. Embarrassing your audience members and guests is never a respectful and dignified way to do anything. Theatre is a wonderful way to stand up for what you believe in through your performance or creation. But we then invite all to come in and see our message via the performance, not through a public shaming of someone who has come to listen to the message. This is an example of becoming the very thing you hate.

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DaddyWarlocks, Very well said. ^ ^

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"If they wanted to engage in an actual 'conversation', I don't get why they didn't invite him backstage."



Because they wouldn't have gotten the video footage they so desperately wanted to go viral, causing national headlines. The whole point of making the inappropriate and uncalled for speech was to generate a headline. Looks like they succeeded.



Has the cast apologized yet?

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Daddy Warbucks said: "Sorry, I love Hamilton, but they screwed up on this one. Sometimes you have to just admit when you're wrong. Embarrassing your audience members and guests is never a respectful and dignified way to do anything. Theatre is a wonderful way to stand up for what you believe in through your performance or creation. But we then invite all to come in and see our message via the performance, not through a public shaming of someone who has come to listen to the message. This is an example of becoming the very thing you hate."



This is the definitive post of this thread. So very well said!

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Daddy Warbucks wins.

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Someday we are going to learn our lesson and hopefully it is before the next election. We are going to end up with 8 years of Trump instead of 4 if we keep infuriating middle America. This sort of stuff plays great in our urban echo chamber, but plays really bad outside of NY and Hollywood.

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So what then??? suck up to this version of "middle America" ? Know your place and stay in it? Brown nose the brown shirts?



NORMALIZE the situation? all that will get u is Smug condescension and loss of any personal rights and freedoms.

Resist- let them know you won't go quietly into their dark. Support the institutions that safeguard your freedoms.

Action NOT rhetoric.



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I can't help but think of how uncomfortable the Trump supporters were last night who were at the performance. You can't even deny there had to be a handful.



Seems like both parties succeeded in getting a headline out of this one. But can we move on now?

We are feeding into the thirst for the headline.

@DaddyWarbucks I am with you wholeheartedly.

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Daddy Warbucks said: "Someday we are going to learn our lesson and hopefully it is before the next election. We are going to end up with 8 years of Trump instead of 4 if we keep infuriating middle America. This sort of stuff plays great in our urban echo chamber, but plays really bad outside of NY and Hollywood. "

Well

www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/behind-closed-doors/2016/04/15/gov-mike-pence-gets-booed-while-throwing-first-pitch-indians-home-opener/83082276/




GreasedLightning said: "I can't help but think of how uncomfortable the Trump supporters were last night who were at the performance. You can't even deny there had to be a handful.


Any Trump supporter who could afford a Hamilton ticket doesn't get my sympathy.

"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt

Updated On: 11/20/16 at 01:29 AM

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haterobics said: "I'll report back if Pence is at Falsettos this afternoon... Last I Heard..."

He was not.

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Daddy Warbucks said: "Someday we are going to learn our lesson and hopefully it is before the next election. We are going to end up with 8 years of Trump instead of 4 if we keep infuriating middle America. This sort of stuff plays great in our urban echo chamber, but plays really bad outside of NY and Hollywood."

It is not the job of People of Color and gay people - who make up a majority of the cast of Hamilton - to calculate political strategy to win over white voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin for the next presidential election - assuming we have a free and fair election in four years. They have more urgent concerns, friends, family. Trump ran as a white nationalist, and as his appointments indicate, he will govern as such.

Brandon Victor Dixon's statement was fine. It's striking to me that some people, and not just Trump fans, are more bothered by the cast's statement, which came across more as a desperate plea, than by the racism, misogyny, and homophobia of the Trump campaign itself. Oh, heavens! Someone might feel uncomfortable at the theatre, especially the incoming vice president-elect. The pearl-clutching is really too much.

As for After Eight, it seems your desire for allies in disliking the show has put you in some strange company. Look, if you're worried about the great power of Hamilton, don't fret. Trump and Pence will get their revenge - on blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, women, LGBT people, and anyone who values the American experiment.





Updated On: 11/20/16 at 02:52 AM

#222

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Daddy Warbucks said: "Sorry, I love Hamilton, but they screwed up on this one. Sometimes you have to just admit when you're wrong. Embarrassing your audience members and guests is never a respectful and dignified way to do anything. Theatre is a wonderful way to stand up for what you believe in through your performance or creation. But we then invite all to come in and see our message via the performance, not through a public shaming of someone who has come to listen to the message. This is an example of becoming the very thing you hate. "

The cast asked for the audience to stop the booing, thanked Pence for being there, and wished that the show inspired him to be an inclusive leader. But that is "embarrassing" and "shaming"?

Either you have unbelievably thin skin, or you're intentionally mischaracterizing what happened..

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So did the cast come out before the show started and asked the crowd to stop booing? Was the booing during Pence's arrival?

I wish there was a law that prohibited people in office or running for office from using Twitter. It is kind of like leaving notes on the fridge when having problems with a roommate rather than confronting them. They should hold press conferences and voice their opinions and then answer questions from the press.

#224

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The cast asked for the audience to stop the booing, thanked Pence for being there, and wished that the show inspired him to be an inclusive leader. But that is 'embarrassing' and 'shaming'?

Either you have unbelievably thin skin, or you're intentionally mischaracterizing what happened..




How is the incident being mischaracterized? The cast made sure it was filmed so it could go viral!

Pence was there as an audience member. He was not there in any official capacity as the Vice President elect. He did not make any statement about the play, cast or production. The cast had no right to single him out with a statement. Brandon Victor Dixon wanted a moment in the spotlight.

I agree with the statement in Trump's tweet that Mike Pence was harassed by the cast. This should not have happened.

Has the cast apologized yet?



Updated On: 11/20/16 at 03:36 AM

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The theatre has always been used as a place to educate, to enlighten, not just to entertain. Theatre artists through history have made statements about politics and politicians and many of them were not as nice as the Hamilton cast was. They said nothing wrong and out of the way and were very respectful in their plea for an exercise of care in the powers of the government for ALL people. And if that offended our future president and vice president then that is entirely too bad, especially with how they have scathingly scorned and insulted our current president on numerous occasions. Good job Hamilton cast!

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