Posted: 3/25/23 at 5:31pm
So...Anyone who likes a show is a good person, but anyone who dislikes a show is a bad person. Got it.
Posted: 3/25/23 at 5:34pm
alovingfan said: "I guess you only read what you want to read. Enjoy."
I'm trying to avoid the negativity on these threads. Especially, after what happened on the Bad Cinderella Thread from Opening Night. I already have a lot of negative BS in my life. I don't need any more of it!
Posted: 3/25/23 at 6:09pm
If you go to the official site, the tickets are $79. I imagine the fees are going to be less than $22, and you’ll know your exact seat.
when I was young, I sat in the second balcony countless times. I saw Hello Dolly the first time from the last row center, and absolutely loved the show, so the seats can’t be that bad. I would go for seats 1 or 3 right off the center aisle. I definitely remember people leaning forward more than any theatre I have been in…side aisle seats remedy that issue.
to second someone else’s comments, it is a real trek up to the balcony, so faint of heart should stay away.
Posted: 3/25/23 at 6:22pm
BCfitasafiddle said: "https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Video-Watch-Eric-Adams-Proclaim-John-Kander-Day-Unveil-Kander-and-Ebb-Way-with-Lin-Manuel-Miranda-20230325
Just watched. I wanna see that street sign IRL! Kander is too cute."
The sign has already been taken down. I was in the city today and walked down 44th just to see it and it was gone.
Posted: 3/25/23 at 6:30pm
uncageg said: "BCfitasafiddle said: "https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Video-Watch-Eric-Adams-Proclaim-John-Kander-Day-Unveil-Kander-and-Ebb-Way-with-Lin-Manuel-Miranda-20230325
Just watched. I wanna see that street sign IRL! Kander is too cute."
The sign has already been taken down. I was in the city today and walked down 44th just to see it and it was gone.
"
It looks like they moved it inside to the lobby
Posted: 3/25/23 at 6:30pm
Dylan Smith4 said: "alovingfan said: "I guess you only read what you want to read. Enjoy."
I'm trying to avoid the negativity on these threads. Especially, after what happened on the Bad Cinderella Thread from Opening Night. I already have a lot of negative BS in my life. I don't need any more of it!"
Dylan, I wasn’t saying anything negative to you, I was just telling you my experience, you’re a sweetheart unlike a non loving fan. Yikes.
Posted: 3/25/23 at 6:55pm
Spoilers ahead if you don't want to know about what's included in the score:
Included in "New York, New York" first preview:
"Marry Me" from "The Rink"
"A Quiet Thing" from "Flora, the Red Menace"
"Let's Hear It for Me" from "Funny Lady"
The melody of "Walking Among My Yesterdays" from "The Happy Time," fitted out with a completely new lyric
The melody of "Sometimes a Day Goes By" from "Woman of the Year," played briefly by the violinist character.
Updated On: 3/25/23 at 06:55 PM
Posted: 3/25/23 at 7:04pm
Sutton Ross said: "bk said: "Sutton Ross said: "pagereynolds said: "I feel like there's a huge discrepancy right now between what people are posting here and the folks on ATC who mostly seem to have really disliked it.
Do you mean an opinion?
"
He means exactly what he said. Fawning love letters here, no one fawning there. Pretty simple."
Yah, differing opinions so yeah, pretty simple. Oh and don’t assume pronouns. TSM.
"
That's the best you've got? "Don't assume pronouns." "TSM" - don't assume everyone knows what those initials mean. So many possibilities. The Stale Mango. Tepid Sutton Missive. Totally Submissive Miscreant. Take your pick.
Posted: 3/25/23 at 7:09pm
pagereynolds said: " I mean it also probably depends on what you like/dislike in the theatre. At 1 hour 40 minutes, (which has been reported by several people, so I don't think the 90 minutes reported here is correct), the first act is not slightly too long. You have to have a VERY engaging first act to be anywhere over 1:20."
Yeah I agree the 1st act was too long/too much exposition, but the music and dancing acts I think were enough to carry the day - things like the tap dancing, Angel's first song (Pure Gold? the YouTube channel indicated that LMM wrote that one and Angel's performance of that one was so good), the doo doo doo da doo song being super catchy with the Trumpet player, I thought all moved things alongside the main plot between Colton and Anna to build up to a superb 2nd act which brought everything together with hit after hit song, sans the Polish character that I think could be cut (despite him being probably the best technical singer in the cast).. I'd think they'll probably work to get 1st act to the 1:30 mark since that's what's advertised, anyways?.
Updated On: 3/25/23 at 07:09 PM
Posted: 3/25/23 at 8:58pm
Do I understand correctly that a minority of the score is original to this production--either written for it or never-before-seen Kander and Ebb trunk? And the majority is Kander and Ebb catalog?
Posted: 3/25/23 at 9:49pm
bk said: "Sutton Ross said: "bk said: "Sutton Ross said: "pagereynolds said: "I feel like there's a huge discrepancy right now between what people are posting here and the folks on ATC who mostly seem to have really disliked it.
Do you mean an opinion?
"
He means exactly what he said. Fawning love letters here, no one fawning there. Pretty simple."
Yah, differing opinions so yeah, pretty simple. Oh and don’t assume pronouns. TSM.
"
That's the best you've got? "Don't assume pronouns." "TSM" - don't assume everyone knows what those initials mean. So many possibilities. The Stale Mango. Tepid Sutton Missive. Totally Submissive Miscreant. Take your pick."
What is happening?
Posted: 3/25/23 at 9:59pm
pethian said: "Do I understand correctly that a minority of the score is original to this production--either written for it or never-before-seen Kander and Ebb trunk? And the majority is Kander and Ebb catalog?"
There are a few songs that are clearly LMM/LMM+Kander - Cheering for me Now, Pure Gold, Music Money Love, etc (sorry don't know the actual song titles, just remembering from the show). I got really lucky and bought a ticket on Wednesday that was a released House Seat it turned out, which put me two spots from John Kander and his team (who signed my playbil, probably the most exciting Broadway moment I've ever had as someone who doesn't ask anyone for signatures!)... and it seemed from their discussion and the quesitons I asked them it was an overall collaboration between Kander and LMM inspired by Ebb and many pieces from the K&E catalogue, to which LMM would never ever take credit beyond "additional lyrics by" out of respect for Fred Ebb. It definitely drew on things people already knew, I think someone listed a few of those songs earlier, alongside on-stage references to things like In the Heights w/ the shaved ice man in scene 2. I think the score was fantastic and showcased 3 Broadway legends well, the exception being the slow Colton Ryan song on an execution basis (voice just didn't seem to fit the song.
Updated On: 3/25/23 at 09:59 PM
Posted: 3/25/23 at 10:06pm
Thanks. And happy to hear you had such a lovely encounter with John Kander, who may be the nicest man in show business. I've never heard an unkind word about him.
Posted: 3/25/23 at 11:10pm
EAPEAPMO said: "pethian said: "Do I understand correctly that a minority of the score is original to this production--either written for it or never-before-seen Kander and Ebb trunk? And the majority is Kander and Ebb catalog?"
There are a few songs that are clearly LMM/LMM+Kander - Cheering for me Now, Pure Gold, Music Money Love, etc (sorry don't know the actual song titles, just remembering from the show). I got really lucky and bought a ticket on Wednesday that was a released House Seat it turned out, which put me two spots from John Kander and his team (who signed my playbil, probably the most exciting Broadway moment I've ever had as someone who doesn't ask anyone for signatures!)... and it seemed from their discussion and the quesitons I asked them it was an overall collaboration between Kander and LMM inspired by Ebb and many pieces from the K&E catalogue, to which LMM would never ever take credit beyond "additional lyrics by" out of respect for Fred Ebb. It definitely drew on things people already knew, I think someone listed a few of those songs earlier, alongside on-stage references to things like In the Heights w/ the shaved ice man in scene 2. I think the score was fantastic and showcased 3 Broadway legends well, the exception being the slow Colton Ryan song on an execution basis (voice just didn't seem to fit the song."
It's a shame, the Colton Ryan ballad is actually one of my favorite lesser-known Kander and Ebb songs so I was excited to see it included. But agree, I didn't love his version and it didn't seem to be a a great fit for his voice (unlike the rest of the score, which I thought fit him beautifully). The song was "A Quiet Thing."
Posted: 3/25/23 at 11:14pm
Sutton Ross said: "Dylan Smith4 said: "alovingfan said: "I guess you only read what you want to read. Enjoy."
I'm trying to avoid the negativity on these threads. Especially, after what happened on the Bad Cinderella Thread from Opening Night. I already have a lot of negative BS in my life. I don't need any more of it!"
Dylan, I wasn’t saying anything negative to you, I was just telling you my experience, you’re a sweetheart unlike a non loving fan. Yikes."
Oh NO NO, I wasn't referring to you at all Sutton. It was the person before who said I "only read what I want to read". I appreciated your input on the seating. Sorry for the mixup there.
Updated On: 3/25/23 at 11:14 PM
Posted: 3/25/23 at 11:31pm
Lerner and Loewe used to call people who travelled to New Haven to see a show in previews (and for various reasons, hoping it would flop) "Dear SH*Ts."
Posted: 3/26/23 at 12:21am
Robbie2 said: "The sign has already been taken down. I was in the city today and walked down 44th just to see it and it was gone."
It looks like they moved it inside to the lobby"
There are different types of street renaming ceremonies in NYC:
1) Temporary honorifics for a day. They are arranged by publicists in collab with the city. Like proclaiming a "André De Shields Day," or giving someone the key to a city. Other shows have used this as a press stunt, too (Sheldon Harnick Way or Tom Sawyer Way). This is what Kander had.
2) Permanent "co-name" for a street -- enacted by petition to the local community Board, approved by City Council, and ultimately signed in by the Mayor, which Signature Theatre spearheaded last year for Jim Houghton. Those usually get a smaller permanent sign underneath the actual street name. Leonard Bernstein Place, W.E.B. DuBois Ave, Wynn Handman Way, etc.
Updated On: 3/26/23 at 12:21 AM
Posted: 3/26/23 at 12:48am
cliffordbradshaw2 said: "Spoilers ahead if you don't want to know about what's included in the score:
Included in "New York, New York" first preview:
"Marry Me" from "The Rink"
"A Quiet Thing" from "Flora, the Red Menace"
"Let's Hear It for Me" from "Funny Lady"
The melody of "Walking Among My Yesterdays" from "The Happy Time," fitted out with a completely new lyric
The melody of "Sometimes a Day Goes By" from "Woman of the Year," played briefly by the violinist character.
"
I guess it's safe to say we won't be seeing Flora, The Rink, or Woman of the Year anytime soon. I know so many are depressed by this news.
(On a less sarcastic note I would've loved a Woman of the Year presentation at Encores)
Posted: 3/26/23 at 12:52am
Dylan Smith4 said: "I have a question here. Are the Balcony seats ok in the St. James? I've only sat in the Orchestra before, but the tickets are not in my price range. I looked at A View From My Seat, and they look pretty high up. Are they decent?"
Climbing up there is a nightmare. It wasn't just the stairs but I had to cross the theater multiple times for some reason. The view is okay unless someone leans forward. If everyone sits back like they're supposed to, you can see fine.
Posted: 3/26/23 at 12:55am
Just got home from tonight’s second performance. My quick thoughts:
Good luck to the creatives as they work on the show - this is far, far from a disaster.
Posted: 3/26/23 at 12:57am
This shouldn’t have any bearing on the future of WOMAN OF THE YEAR or FLORA (which would both be ideal Encores shows) or any other K&E titles.
Not to invoke a cursed thing, but PETER PAN on NBC did a similar thing, with Amanda Green rewriting some DO RE MI songs to fit into that. How many different shows have featured Someone to Watch Over Me or Blue Skies?
Posted: 3/26/23 at 1:47am
Shubert Alley Cat said: "Just got home from tonight’s second performance. My quick thoughts:
Good luck to the creatives as they work on the show - this is far, far from a disaster."
Can you spoil what was so great and also design wise what was so great? thanks!
Posted: 3/26/23 at 9:23am
RippedMan said: "
Can you spoil what was so great and also design wise what was so great? thanks!"
According to a post on Reddit, the band rises up out of the pit for the NY,NY finale
Posted: 3/26/23 at 11:09am
RippedMan said: "Shubert Alley Cat said: "Just got home from tonight’s second performance. My quick thoughts:
Good luck to the creatives as they work on the show - this is far, far from a disaster."
Can you spoil what was so great and also design wise what was so great? thanks!"
Read the spoiler tag in inception’s post above - that is the big moment and it was thrilling as was the final epilogue scene.
Posted: 3/26/23 at 11:29am
Shubert Alley Cat said: "RippedMan said: "Shubert Alley Cat said: "Just got home from tonight’s second performance. My quick thoughts:
Good luck to the creatives as they work on the show - this is far, far from a disaster."
Can you spoil what was so great and also design wise what was so great? thanks!"
Read the spoiler tag in inception’s post above - that is the big moment and it was thrilling as was the final epilogue scene."
Thank you!
