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#276

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Let's get the news out of the way at the top: this production is hands down the one we'll remember for years and years as the worst thing we've seen in a Broadway house in this century.

That said, I'll pay good money to see Damon Daunno in anything. That man is a rare talent who galvanizes every scene he's in, no matter how idiotic the staging that surrounds him. Magnificent voice, magnetic eyes, great guitar-wrangling, the whole package. I'll also single out Ali Stroker for great work that actually felt very Rogers and Hammerstein in its dopey purity. And all glory to Daniel Kluger whose orchestrations were spectacular in all the right ways. The music-making was glorious, even if my seat (B105) was directly behind the damn double bass for most of the show.

A short list of things I hated: the lights that were either on, off or green. (My husband wore sunglasses to minimize the glare.) The set that held zero surprises and littered the floor with giant pits which prevented any sort of full out dancing. The book staging that consisted of 8 actors sitting in chairs like a first table read, shouting their lines across the room at each other. Aunt Eller, a vanity-free salt-of-the-earth gal rocking a fringed denim smock and peroxided permed curls on a work day. Huh?? Jud deserved better than to have his 2 best scenes plunged into darkness, like his own story line didn't merit keeping the lights on for. (Patrick Vaill was out, and Chris Bannow did fine as Jud, though his pure Broadway voice tone seemed a little at odds with the rest of the show.) And don't get us started on the ballet...

I could have shortened this list to say I hated everything about Daniel Fish's direction, period. Community theater doesn't begin to describe the ill-informed hubris at work here. I lost count of the number of times actors upstaged themselves singing full songs with their backs to the majority of the seats. My only fear is that Tony voters drink the KoolAid and award him a best director nod for this dreck -- God help the next classic of the golden age he decides to get his hands on.

#277

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Someone in a Tree2 said: "Let's get the news out of the way at the top: this production is hands down the one we'll remember for years and years as the worst thing we've seen in a Broadway house in this century.
"

I am now going to sound old. I have been seeing Broadway shows for 45 years. This version of Oklahoma has stayed with me since I saw it. I can't even put it into words why but that is what I love about theatre.

Could I recommend this to all my friends? No. But taking my niece this week as I think she will appreciate it as much as I have.


"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter." Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.
#278

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Someone in a Tree2 said: "Let's get the news out of the way at the top: this production is hands down the one we'll remember for years and years as the worst thing we've seen in a Broadway house in this century.

That said, I'll pay good money to see Damon Daunno in anything. That man is a rare talent who galvanizes every scene he's in, no matter how idiotic the staging that surrounds him. Magnificent voice, magnetic eyes, great guitar-wrangling, the whole package.
"

I thought that he looks and sounds remarkably like the Sun-Records era Elvis Presley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmopYuF4BzY

#279

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I will be very disappointed if it does not win the Tony for best orchestrations.
#281

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I just got home from this. I’d heard it was a new approach and to just go in blind so I have avoided all threads and conversations on it.

I’m...confused. So there were a group of people who got together and thought that “Oklahoma” needed to be done this way. Why? It reminded me of “Our Town” and not in a good way. Everyone sitting on chairs, speaking their dialogue in a monotone voice is supposed to convey what, exactly? I got the feeling that there was a message (or ten) that they were trying to get across but it never did. There were some good things - Ali Stoker, Mary Testa, dude who played Judd, the whole cast really. I can’t fault them for the show but what the hell show were they in? And my God, that dream ballet where that girl scoots her ass up and down on the stage like a dog who’s scratching its ass, was one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen.

My brain is just all jumbled up right now with too many thoughts to make any sense of them tonight.

Updated On: 4/25/19 at 12:30 AM

#282

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Any off days for Ali and Mary in May? I'm aiming for the 15th.

#283

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disneybroadwayfan22 said: "Any off days for Ali and Maryin May? I'm aiming for the 15th."

With Tony voters coming in May I would think attendance record would be very good. I'm assuming Maryin May is some strange spell check for Mary Testa?


"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter." Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.
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I just saw this.

Only way I could justify Curly killing Jud was the moment in the smokehouse when, on video, Curly and Jud's mouths got thisclose. Was the killing a homophobic reaction on Curly's part? No really...I'm serious. And why was Laurey so angry???



Other than that, what's the sense of this new take on the material? To me it just served to make the long show more boring than it has been in previous productions (see the last Broadway revival). The only one I've liked was William Hammerstein's revival in the late 70s with Lawrence Guittard, Christine Andreas, Christine Ebersole and Harry Groener. Perfection.



#285

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But seriously - WTF is with them almost kissing?
#286

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Jordan Catalano said: "But seriously - WTF is with them almost kissing?"



Glad someone else caught that!



#287

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I thought it served two purposes:

* It is incredibly creepy and confrontational. To me it heightened the intensity of the scene.
* It was almost somewhat cute in a weird ****ed up manipulative way. The whole scene was probably the most ‘friendship’-type connection Jud has had in a very long time (which is pretty sad and pathetic), so I took it to be part of Curly’s strategy to manipulate Jud into killing himself.

Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.
#288

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I saw this on Thursday. I went into it completely blind having never seen the show or heard the music. I am one who enjoyed it as is my sister-in-law who had seen it in the past. It was the show of the week that we were still talking about yesterday. That being said, there were defintiely people in the audience who hated it. The lady in front of us could not stand it and was very vocal of her opinion at intermission. I though Ali Stroker was fabulous, she is definitely delivering a tony nominated performance. The one thing I found annoying was the fact they left the house lights up throughout the show. I don’t think it added anything and I found myself getting distracted by audience members. Also, the portions where is goes completely black were weird. That part left me confused. I always try to see something that I could only see in NYC and this is defintiely that show
#289

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can I ask a dumb somewhat unrelated question?

Why wasnt Oklahoma! nominated for any Lucille Lortel awards?

#290

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Absolutely loved every single second of this production.

1. I don't think the comment about people on the floor getting chili has been fully addressed. Everyone gets it -- or, at least, until the chili runs out (which it did Saturday).

2. It looks to me like the worst place to sit would be at would could be called the right top of the U. That's where I was and it was a bit difficult to see around the wall that's been erected there. I didn't miss a ton, but I did miss a bit when people were at the right base of the U.

3. OlBlueEyes wrote about the "shabby" treatment of Jud in the original production. That's very definitely addressed in this, which has a more sympathetic take.

4. I get why the performance as Laurie is divisive, that she's not "likable." But what women, being bought and sold in a misogynistic culture, would be? I loved her choices and, I'm not sure of this, but wondered if she only comes fully alive when she's singing, dancing or in the secret dark.

5. The vocal arrangements of "Oklahoma" and "Farmer and Cowman," in particular, are so thrilling!

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JDonaghy4 said: "can I ask a dumb somewhat unrelated question?
Why wasnt Oklahoma! nominated for any Lucille Lortel awards?
"

Not a dumb question! The Lortels' eligibility can be confusing. Productions that take place outside of Manhattan aren't typically eligible. "Off-Broadway" has a specific meaning when used by the Lortels and the Off-Broadway League, which is defined by the Actors' Equity Off-Broadway contract as referring to productions in Manhattan in venues of 100-499 seats.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#292

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Ah that makes sense. It struck me as odd that Oklahoma! wasnt nominated for anything there. Thanks!

#293

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finally saw Oklahoma! and I am sorta befuddled by some of the reactions here. i have never seen any other production of this piece, and to me the play itself is problematic, but this production is mostly glorious.

the lyrics are plain genius, and its hard for me to imagine a production that isn't dark and brooding and sexually charged like this one. there is a happy, peppy version of this show? with this book? how is that possible? My takeaway is not that Daniel Fish did anything revolutionary; he just laid bare a completely disturbing storyline. The result is mostly thrilling and at times not as much (the dream sequence...no thanks), but I left thinking that any less intense/dark version of this play would be insufferable.

Despite the flaws in the book, its hard to find fault with this production: the music sounded incredible, the cast sings like champions. Everyone nailed the comedy- Will Brill was particularly spot on. Contrary to prevailing opinion, I thought Damon Daunno was the weakest link here: he sings beautifully but his Curly was a total blank, waffling from charming to douchebag without any explanation (though he certainly brings heat to his duets with Laurey and his also his confrontation with Jud). Fish seems to have directed him to be a smiley dude used to getting whatever he wants and that works in spades at the end, but I couldn't get much of a read on his character.

I found Mary Testa to be totally one-note, though some of her delivery was hilarious and she soudns great as always. Ali Stroker is indeed just as amazing as everyone says- and her out-of-context performances of Caint Say No on TV dont do her justice. I had read somewhere she rides her wheelchair like a bronco- she really controls the space, in a way that turns the notion of "disabled" right on its head. Perfect casting and perfect performance. And her total breakdown at the end (mirroring Laurey's) was a punch in the gut.

The two absolute standouts though were Patrick Vail's Jud and Rebecca Naomi Jones' Laurey. I dont quite understand how this show works without a Jud that is (i) sympathetic, (ii) somewhat alluring and (iii) creepy all at the same time. Vail just nailed all three- his confrontation with Curly in the dark/on camera was incredible and he carried himself in a way that breaks your heart even as you are terrified of him.

And who do we see about Rebecca Naomi Jones not getting a Tony nomination? I didnt see Cher Show or Kiss Me Kate, but the idea that Caitlin Kinnunen or Eva Noblezada are doing anything remotely close to Jones simply boggles my mind. Shes belting her face off as I expected (Many A New Day shook dem rafters!) but more: her Laurey is adorable when she needs to be but always guarded, always searching, always conflicted. Again, how does this play work if you don't have a Laurey whose face registers total fear/confusion/lust? I had heard "People Will Say We're In Love" before but she and Daunno turned it palpably sexual and intermittently hilarious. And her intensity at the show's close will stay with me for a long time. The entire last 10 minutes will. (I thought having the African American character speak up about applying the law fairly only to be railroaded by Aunt Eller, was going to be a bit on the nose, but they did it perfectly.) Can't remember the last time I felt 1000 people lose their breath all at the same time.

I dont know if Rodgers and Hammerstein wanted me to think about the hubris of "we belong to the land..." or if they just wrote a catchy song. But this production sent me into the night rethinking the whole open frontier narrative, and humming along, too. No small feat.

#294

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Glad you loved it! I’m in complete agreement about Rebecca Naomi Jones - she was robbed of a nomination. As was Patrick Vaill.
"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards
#295

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IdinaBellFoster said: "Glad you loved it! I’m in complete agreement about Rebecca Naomi Jones - she was robbed of a nomination. As was Patrick Vaill."

I'm wincing as I write this because I really dont buy into the THIS PERSON DESERVES X AND THAT PERSON DESERVES Y- its all subjective. But both Jones and Vail were captivating start to finish. In a different league than anyone over at Tootsie and, from the looks of it, Aint Too Proud. And Jones sounds (and looks, hooboy) amazing! To each their own but I thought they both gave two of the best performances I had seen this season, and were both linchpins for the show making any sense. And while Jones has knocked me over before (Murder Ballad anyone?) Vail was a total revelation. Top notch stuff.

Updated On: 6/13/19 at 12:29 AM

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I was probably at the same show as you Zion24, and I feel the same way. The way the book was presented made me think in my head “Oklahoma is kinda ****ed up”. Listening to the movie version of “Poor Jud” now feels absolutely ridiculous in the movie context.

Updated On: 6/13/19 at 02:15 AM

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Melodicinflation0 said: "I was probably at the same show as you Zion24,and I feel the same way. The way the book was presented made me think in my head “Oklahoma is kinda ****ed up”. Listening to the movieversion of “Poor Jud” now feels absolutely ridiculous in the movie context."

Great example. Kudos to Fish for killing the lights, kudos to Vaill for in an instant showing Jud to be creepy but also desperate and scared. But how did this play otherwise? The leading man saunters over to a minor character's home, and suggests he kill himself and then sings about his funeral. HUH?

How is this handled in the hundreds of productions performed every year across the country? When Hugh Jackman performed this, people were like "got it. laurey should totally be w this dude." Not sure I understand those people who are griping that this production "kills the joy and optimism" out of the original. I am lost.

#298

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Saw it again last night — loved it even more the second time around. What a fantastic production. The cast was ON FIRE, especially Ali Stroker. Every time she was onstage, one of the band members just looked around, nodding and grinning, as if to say “yep, she’s the real deal.”
#299

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Perhaps a ridiculous question, is Ali Stroker's understudy also wheelchair bound? (IRL?) Just curious. We're seeing in a few weeks, and my luck will certainly get me an understudy (which is fine) so I was just thinking about it.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
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dramamama611 said: "Perhaps a ridiculous question, is Ali Stroker's understudy also wheelchair bound? (IRL?) Just curious. We're seeing in a few weeks, and my luck will certainly get me an understudy (which is fine) so I was just thinking about it."

Neither understudy uses a wheelchair. I'd be interested to see how the character's songs/scenes would be staged without it.


"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards

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