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I think it's pretty telling that Carousel picked up so many acting nominations but not director. Seems like Tony voters recognized that cast was doing the best it could despite poor vision.
I am shocked that Frozen was shut out of all technical categories.
And like others have said, so many of last year's musicals that were shut out of wins and/or nominations could have done so much better against this class. Oh well.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/18/10
Does this mean that Carousel is now the frontrunner to win Revival and Leading Actor? I feel it over performed today.
Musicaldudepeter said: "Does this mean that Carousel is now the frontrunner to win Revival and Leading Actor? I feel it over performed today."
I think Henry has a chance, but the fact the director isn’t nominated doesn’t bode well for Carousel winning best revival.
These nominations are just bizarre. SpongeBob and Mean Girls might have the most nominations, but I doubt it'll win any. Maybe one. Also, I hope Fey doesn't win for book, what isn't lifted directly from the film is so painfully mediocre, especially when compared to the book of The Band's Visit. DeBose and LaChanze really didn't need to be nominated. Nothing about that show is special at all, including their performances. McArdle, Nathan Stewart-Jarret, Alex Newell, Kenita Miller, and John Cariani are glaring omissions to me. I can't believe the love for SpongeBob and Mean Girls. Talk about a weak year in which two mediocre musicals like those two could land so many noms. Also Gemignani does next to nothing in Carousel. Why the hell is he nominated? This has got me scared that we could actually see a year in which SpongeBob the musical wins Best Musical.
Friendly reminder of some recent Tony facts:
- The Great Comet received 12 nominations. It won 2.
- Shuffle Along received 10 nominations. It won 0.
- Something Rotten! received 10 nominations. It won 1.
- Cinderella received 9 nominations. It won 1.
Today might have been a great day for Carousel, Mean Girls, and SpongeBob, but I doubt June 10 will be a great evening for any of them. Of those three, I can only really see Carousel winning Featured Actress, with maybe a design award or two for SpongeBob. That's about it.
BroadwayConcierge said: "Friendly reminder of some recent Tony facts:
-The Great Cometreceived 12 nominations. It won 2.
-Shuffle Alongreceived 10 nominations. It won 0.
-Something Rotten!received 10 nominations. It won 1.
-Cinderellareceived 9 nominations. It won 1.
Today might have been a great day forCarousel,Mean Girls, andSpongeBob, but I doubt June 10 will be a great evening for any of them. Of those three, I can only really seeCarouselwinning Featured Actress, with maybe a design award or two for SpongeBob. That's about it."
Agreed! But you forgot the actual record-breaking example: Scottsboro Boys nominated for 12, and won 0 (still sad about that!)
rattleNwoolypenguin said: "All those great shows from last year shut out by Dear Evan Hansen that should have waited and opened this year. Ugh, it just hurts."
Shut out? Comet got more noms that DEH. Groundhog Day and Come From Away both notched a respectable 7 each. That doesn't look like a shut out to me.
MadsonMelo said: "Also, with this amount of LOVE for the Carousel cast. I believe Henry and Mendez are in a pretty amazing position, right?"
I will just repeat what others here far more knowledgeable than myself have already said - there is no correlation between number of nominations and actually winning anything. A show with strong supporting performances plus a lot of scenic, lighting and technical wizardry can rack up nominations. But that means nothing when it comes down to vote for the best in each category
OK, here's the Frozen elephant in the room - how weird is it that Frozen was only nominated in the Best Musical category and then nods for the writers? Not one person associated with the production was nominated! I mean you really have to look the other way to pass over the costumes, scenic design, projections and lighting that make that show work. Frozen only earned one more nomination that Summer: The Donna Summer Musical!
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Shh_413 said: "MadsonMelo said: "I was thinking about Metcalf's year.
Has any person ever got nominated for three out of the four main awards at the same year?
Or any actor, actually.
She will likely be an Emmy nominee for ROSEANNE. Incredible!"
Off the top of my head, Bob Fosse won the Tony (for directing and choreographing Pippin), Emmy (for directing Liza with a Z), and the Best Director Oscar all in 1973. As for nominations, I don't have a full list of people but I know for sure Glenn Close is one of them (Oscar, Emmy, and Tony (win) in 1984)."
I knew about Fosse, but didn't know about Close. I mean, wow!
Any others?
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/22/14
I think outside of Featured Actor and Lead Actress, Carousel's nominations were sort of default (I only put Joshua Henry in the default category because there was only one eligible actor that they left out for a nomination). I mean there really wasn't anything else to take its place other than arguably Frozen but I doubt many really were championing that show since it had it own set of detractors.
Updated On: 5/1/18 at 07:22 PM
Miles2Go2 said: "S394206H said: "A few thoughts I have after reading this thread-
As a novice scenic designer myself, Mean Girls shouldn't have been nominated for Scenic Design. Projections design needs to be its own separate category, especially as it is a completely different design process than designing a set.
People are complaining about how weak this season is- Broadway seasons ebb and flow. In my opinion, 15-16 was our most recent "standard" season- it had a decent amount of shows open, and even with Hamilton as the clear winner from the beginning, it was still a competitive enough season to be interesting. Last season, everyone rushed to pack the season in an attempt to be the next "Hamilton," while many of them should have spent more time in workshops and tryouts and opened this season instead (Looking at you, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory- a show which I love dearly.) Because of last season's sheer numbers, (37 total productions were eligible) the competition was off the charts. Now, with 31 of those shows closed, we're left with a "weaker" season because producers who were counting on those big shows to run longer had to scramble to find new shows to fill the houses. Broadway shows take YEARS to develop, so it's not like you can pickthe next big hit out of a hat and have it be ready just like that. Yeah, this season is pretty thin, especially for musicals, but that's how it goes. Next season is already shaping up to be a lot stronger, so hopefully we get some better competition then.
I'm honestly amazed that Summer got any kind of nod at all after the reviews it got. Nothing against LaChanze or Ariana, but this feels like more of a consolation prize than an actual reward for the performance."
I’m genuinely curious (no snark intended) what new musicals have you hopeful for next season. When I looked at the projected upcoming new musicals, I’m even less hopeful for next season. Of course, this time last year I’m not sure I knew anything about The Band’s Visit (which I dearly love), but I don’t see anything coming that excites me. I made a list of what I’d like to see when I hopefully get to NYC in November after my June trip. So far it’s four musicals I’ve already seen (Hamilton, Dear Evan Hansen, Wicked and The Band’s Visit), only one new musical King King (a likely hot mess but I’m a sucker for a big ape), and three plays (Torch Song, The Ferryman, and Bernhardt/Hamlet). Love Cher, but not excited for The Cher Show."
Sorry for such a late response to this, but the two new musicals I am particularly excited for are The Prom and Head Over Heels! I've heard some pretty promising reviews coming from their out-of-town tryouts, and I hope they do well on Broadway. I also heard good things about Ain't Too Proud when it was in Berkeley. As for plays, the Boys in The Band is included in the next season, not this one, and I'm also excited for Torch Song and Mockingbird, if it ever makes it through this nightmare of a lawsuit. I'm not from the city either, so I know what you mean about having to plan out what shows to see, but those are a few I've heard good things about, so it may be worth looking into them!
I’ve heard mixed things about Head Over Heels. So far it doesn’t appeal to me although I like me some Go-Go’s. Wasn’t sure what to make of The Prom, yet. I agree that the next season looks relatively strong for plays. I already have my ticket for The Boys in the Band revival in June.
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Impossible2 said: "I liked Come From Away very much, probably even more than Hansen.
But I can understand why Hansen won and I could accept it beating Great Comet..
However if Come From Away had'vebeaten Great Comet I think I would've actually started beating random strangersin the street.
"
I would have joined you.
ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "I love Diana Rigg as much as the next gay, but did she really do anything award worthy in My Fair Lady? Maybe she bumped it up a notch since I saw it in mid previews."
I love Mary Beth Peil but I'm not sure she did anything award worthy in Anastasia. That's not a knock on her but how messily that part was rewritten from the movie. She had moments though so maybe the committee was able to fully separate the performance from the material? What I'm saying is maybe they just wanted to give a nod to an older actress that they like who has done good work in other things.
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/20/06
Camille A. Brown should've snagged one of Gattelli's two choreography nominations for her joyous work in ONCE ON THIS ISLAND. Most likely his nod for MY FAIR LADY, though I wasn't thrilled with his work in that or SPONGEBOB. Big mistake, BIG mistake.
I wonder if Once on this Island & The Band’s Visit opened too long ago and therefore the performances weren’t as fresh in people’s minds? Newell absolutely deserves a nom.
RippedMan said: "I wonder if Once on this Island & The Band’s Visit opened too long ago and therefore the performances weren’t as fresh in people’s minds? Newell absolutely deserves a nom."
I mean, they were nominated for a bunch of other awards, so why would that only affect this one specific thing?
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Have the nominations changed anyone's predictions of who will actually win? (Aside from those who thought Newell and McArdle would win, of course, but I don't know if anyone else who wasn't nominated was anyone's favorite to win?)
Also - is The Prom the only new musical coming next season so far with an original score? Please tell me I'm overlooking lots of original works...
rjm516 said: "Also - is The Prom the only new musical coming next season so far with an original score? Please tell me I'm overlooking lots of original works...”
I’ve been keeping a running list of shows for next season here, BTW: https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?thread=1105025
Best Play
The Children, Author: Lucy Kirkwood
Farinelli and The King, Author: Claire van Kampen
Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two, Author: Jack Thorne
Junk, Author: Ayad Akhtar
Latin History for Morons, Author: John Leguizamo
Best Musical
The Band's Visit
Frozen
Mean Girls
SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Best Revival of a Play
Angels in America
Edward Albee's Three Tall Women
Eugene O'Neill's The Iceman Cometh
Lobby Hero
Travesties
Best Revival of a Musical
My Fair Lady
Once On This Island
Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
Best Book of Musical
The Band's Visit: Itamar Moses
Frozen: Jennifer Lee
Mean Girls: Tina Fey
SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical: Kyle Jarrow
Best Original Score (Music and/or Lyrics) Written for the Theatre
Angels in America
Music: Adrian Sutton
The Band's Visit
Music & Lyrics: David Yazbek
Frozen
Music & Lyrics: Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez
Mean Girls
Music: Jeff Richmond
Lyrics: Nell Benjamin
SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Music & Lyrics: Yolanda Adams, Steven Tyler & Joe Perry of Aerosmith, Sara Bareilles, Jonathan Coulton, Alex Ebert of Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros, The Flaming Lips, Lady Antebellum, Cyndi Lauper & Rob Hyman, John Legend, Panic! at the Disco, Plain White T's, They Might Be Giants, T.I., Domani & Lil'C
Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role in a Play
Andrew Garfield, Angels in America
Tom Hollander, Travesties
Jamie Parker, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two
Mark Rylance, Farinelli and The King
Denzel Washington, Eugene O'Neill's The Iceman Cometh
Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role in a Play
Glenda Jackson, Edward Albee's Three Tall Women
Condola Rashad, Saint Joan
Lauren Ridloff, Children of a Lesser God
Amy Schumer, Meteor Shower
Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role in a Musical
Harry Hadden-Paton, My Fair Lady
Joshua Henry, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
Tony Shalhoub, The Band's Visit
Ethan Slater, SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role in a Musical
Lauren Ambrose, My Fair Lady
Hailey Kilgore, Once On This Island
LaChanze, Summer: The Donna Summer Musical
Katrina Lenk, The Band's Visit
Taylor Louderman, Mean Girls
Jessie Mueller, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
Best Performance by an Actor in a Featured Role in a Play
Anthony Boyle, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two
Michael Cera, Lobby Hero
Brian Tyree Henry, Lobby Hero
Nathan Lane, Angels in America
David Morse, Eugene O'Neill's The Iceman Cometh
Best Performance by an Actress in a Featured Role in a Play
Susan Brown, Angels in America
Noma Dumezweni, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two
Deborah Findlay, The Children
Denise Gough, Angels in America
Laurie Metcalf, Edward Albee's Three Tall Women
Best Performance by an Actor in a Featured Role in a Musical
Norbert Leo Butz, My Fair Lady
Alexander Gemignani, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
Grey Henson, Mean Girls
Gavin Lee, SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Ari'el Stachel, The Band's Visit
Best Performance by an Actress in a Featured Role in a Musical
Ariana DeBose, Summer: The Donna Summer Musical
Renée Fleming, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
Lindsay Mendez, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
Ashley Park, Mean Girls
Diana Rigg, My Fair Lady
Best Scenic Design of a Play
Miriam Buether, Edward Albee's Three Tall Women
Jonathan Fensom, Farinelli and The King
Christine Jones, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two
Santo Loquasto, Eugene O'Neill's The Iceman Cometh
Ian MacNeil and Edward Pierce, Angels in America
Best Scenic Design of a Musical
Dane Laffrey, Once On This Island
Scott Pask, The Band's Visit
Scott Pask, Finn Ross & Adam Young, Mean Girls
Michael Yeargan, My Fair Lady
David Zinn, SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Best Costume Design of a Play
Jonathan Fensom, Farinelli and The King
Nicky Gillibrand, Angels in America
Katrina Lindsay, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two
Ann Roth, Edward Albee's Three Tall Women
Ann Roth, Eugene O'Neill's The Iceman Cometh
Best Costume Design of a Musical
Gregg Barnes, Mean Girls
Clint Ramos, Once On This Island
Ann Roth, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
David Zinn, SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Catherine Zuber, My Fair Lady
Best Lighting Design of a Play
Neil Austin, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two
Paule Constable, Angels in America
Jules Fisher + Peggy Eisenhauer, Eugene O'Neill's The Iceman Cometh
Paul Russell, Farinelli and The King
Ben Stanton, Junk
Best Lighting Design of a Musical
Kevin Adams, SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Jules Fisher + Peggy Eisenhauer, Once On This Island
Donald Holder, My Fair Lady
Brian MacDevitt, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
Tyler Micoleau, The Band's Visit
Best Sound Design of a Play
Adam Cork, Travesties
Ian Dickinson for Autograph, Angels in America
Gareth Fry, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two
Tom Gibbons, 1984
Dan Moses Schreier, Eugene O'Neill's The Iceman Cometh
Best Sound Design of a Musical
Kai Harada, The Band's Visit
Peter Hylenski, Once On This Island
Scott Lehrer, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
Brian Ronan, Mean Girls
Walter Trarbach and Mike Dobson, SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Best Direction of a Play
Marianne Elliott, Angels in America
Joe Mantello, Edward Albee's Three Tall Women
Patrick Marber, Travesties
John Tiffany, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two
George C. Wolfe, Eugene O'Neill's The Iceman Cometh
Best Direction of a Musical
Michael Arden, Once On This Island
David Cromer, The Band's Visit
Tina Landau, SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Casey Nicholaw, Mean Girls
Bartlett Sher, My Fair Lady
Best Choreography
Christopher Gattelli, My Fair Lady
Christopher Gattelli, SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
Steven Hoggett, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Parts One and Two
Casey Nicholaw, Mean Girls
Justin Peck, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
Best Orchestrations
John Clancy, Mean Girls
Tom Kitt, SpongeBob SquarePants: The Musical
AnnMarie Milazzo & Michael Starobin, Once On This Island
Jamshied Sharifi, The Band's Visit
Jonathan Tunick, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel
I really hope Harry Hadden-Paton wins Best Actor next month. He is, far and away, giving the best actor performance of the season.
It would be a joke if Mean Girls won best book. It's really not good. What isn't directly from the film, is horrible. Is the weird framing device still in the show? Because that right there should cost the show any sort of chance at Best Book.
Featured Actor Joined: 12/16/10
I'm finding all this kvetching well-informed but amusing. There are so few shows produced in any given year so you get situations like 4 men nominated for Best Lead Musical Actor when there were only 5 possibilities. Or all 3 musical revivals being nominated. Say what you want about the Oscars, Emmys, and Grammys, those nominees come from a large pool. Not saying that being up for a Tony is easy--getting a show on Broadway is extremely hard work and landing a gig that results in a Tony nomination is amazing. It's just this how was Mean Girls nominated? convo is cracking me up. It was one of, what, 7 or 8 possible shows that could have been nominated? 4 of these possible shows received mixed to bad reviews.
And goshdarnit people, SpongeBob is a fun and well-done comical musical. Get past the name.
Swing Joined: 2/26/18
Does anyone know how many categories Cursed Child was eligible for? I can't seem to find the answer with a google search. I'm wondering if it was even considered for best original score and/or best orchestration.
GregHut said: "Does anyoneknow how many categories Cursed Child was eligible for? I can't seem to find the answer with a google search.I'm wondering if it was evenconsideredfor best original score and/or best orchestration."
Wasn't eligible for Best Score, but I don't know why it wouldn't have been eligible for orchestration.
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