Official 2018 TONY Nominations Thread- Page 6

[a-mad]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:29am

Mean Girls did not get good reviews.  They were overall mixed at best.  In fact, if you lined up their reviews next to Frozen the number of negative, mixed and positive were probably pretty close to the same.

I think the major difference is that Mean Girls has enjoyed a whiff of positivity given the love for Tina Fey and the fact that they've been just packing the crowds in.  Being the hot new product can diffuse a lot - including mixed reviews.  Still, I'm somewhat shocked that a musical that got such mixed reviews is leading the nominations tally.

 

[After Eight]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:30am

"So do we think this is going to be like last season where despite having less nominations The Band’s Visit is still considered a lock for Best Musical,"

 

Unfortunately, it's a lock. A padlock. And it has been from the moment it was announced to be opening on Broadway.

True, it's excruciatingly boring, and it hasn't a good song in it.

But hey, that's why it's a lock!

[quizking101]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:32am

singer234 said: "I think Band’s Visit has it in the bag...but is there a world where we think Fey might snag best book for Mean Girls? It has pretty much always been pointed out as the strongest part of the show. Still think it’ll go to Band’s Visit, but it wouldn’t shock me."

The Bag (TM) will always belong to Jan Maxwell. May she rest in peace. #BetYourAss

[broadwayboy223]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:39am

Does the six nominations for Best Actress in a Musical have any potential impact on Katrina Lenk winning the Tony? And personally I loved all the plastics, but I would have rather seen Kate Rockwell show up as featured instead of Ashley. 

[zainmax]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:39am

Probably. The Tony's are national broadcast, and the show could use a boost from tourism.

Also, some interesting stats stuff here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/marchershberg/2018/05/01/the-impact-of-the-tony-award-nominations/#b2c49b27168e Not sure about how to explain the last point, though.

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:40am

I need to express how happy I am that Jack O'Brien was not nominated for Best Director for Carousel. We should not be encouraging that behavior ever again. 

[BroadwayGuy12]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:41am

It's crazy that, after all that's been said about it, CAROUSEL is the most nominated revival of the season.

[JudyDenmark]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:44am

BroadwayConcierge said: "I need to express how happy I am that Jack O'Brien was not nominated for Best Director for Carousel. We should not be encouraging that behavior ever again."

Haha, my coworker just looked over to see what I audibly guffawed at. Thank you for that. 

[Oak2]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:47am

I apologize for my ignorance, but what did Jack O'Brien do?

Also I loved Come From Away and think it deserved Best Musical over DEH too, but I see no reason to put down other shows over it. And if people are talking about musicals that would have won if they had come out for this season instead of last, what about Great Comet? Can we also probably say that if Great Comet had come out this season it would have been a lock for Best Musical?

[LesWickedly]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:48am

Oak2 said: "I apologize for my ignorance, but what did Jack O'Brien do?”

It’s what he didn’t do that is the problem. 

[iwuldwf]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:54am

The Cursed Child twitter account just posted a tweet claiming to be the most nominated play this year. It’s deleted now, and I don’t know how to post screenshots here, but the text is below:

“WIZZO WIZZO! #CursedChildNYC is the most nominated play of the Broadway season! Congratulations to all the nominees.“

And then there was a graphic repeating the “most nominated play” mistake with a listing of their nominations. Oops!

Updated On: 5/1/18 at 11:54 AM

[TNick926]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 11:59am

This is pretty interesting analysis.....

http://www.playbill.com/article/tony-awards-trends-playbill-breaks-down-the-2018-nominations

 

[Notreallysilent 2]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 12:02pm

Harry Potter reposted that tweet. I think the mean out of all the awards they were the most nominated, not the tonys

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 12:08pm

I just can't believe Frozen and Mean Girls, which got such middling reviews, did so well. 

[iwuldwf]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 12:13pm

Notreallysilent 2 said: "Harry Potter reposted that tweet. I think the mean out of all the awards they were the most nominated, not the tonys "

Oooh true, good call!  I was so confused.

[disneybroadwayfan22]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 12:16pm

BroadwayRox3588 said: "I wish they'd had six nominees for Leading Actress in a Musical last season, so Christy Altomare could've gotten in..."

Aughhhhhhhh. Even more bitter

Mean Girls getting Best Scenic & Costume is a joke! Both of those slots belonged to Frozen. If Mean Girls's projections deserved to be nominated, Anastasia's should had been nominated last year as well.  

[TNick926]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 12:18pm

Another informative analysis of the nominations, but weird that they fail to mention Glenda Jackson and Laurie Metcalf in the paragraph referencing "boldface" names!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/01/theater/tony-award-nominations.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Farts&action=click&contentCollection=arts&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 12:19pm

everythingtaboo said: "I just can't believe Frozen and Mean Girls, which got such middling reviews, did so well."

I mean, while it was the big three, FROZEN only received three nominations.

Featured Actress seems like a wide open race.

[Elfuhbuh]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 12:19pm

I’m not sure how having mixed reviews is supposed to make a musical undeserving of nominations. It’s not like musicals with mixed reviews (Phantom, Les Mis, etc.) haven’t proven to be successful in the past.

[Musicaldudepeter]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 12:33pm

I can see Fleming winning featured actress this year just even for her thrilling performance of You'll Never Walk Alone, and following the Tony wins of other previous R&H matriarchs Patricia Neway as the Mother Abbess (1960) and Ruthie Ann Miles as Lady Thiang (2015). The category is one of the least predictable... I could see Fleming taking this one.

[S394206H]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 12:43pm

A few thoughts I have after reading this thread-

As a novice scenic designer myself, Mean Girls shouldn't have been nominated for Scenic Design. Projections design needs to be its own separate category, especially as it is a completely different design process than designing a set.

People are complaining about how weak this season is- Broadway seasons ebb and flow. In my opinion, 15-16 was our most recent "standard" season- it had a decent amount of shows open, and even with Hamilton as the clear winner from the beginning, it was still a competitive enough season to be interesting. Last season, everyone rushed to pack the season in an attempt to be the next "Hamilton," while many of them should have spent more time in workshops and tryouts and opened this season instead (Looking at you, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory- a show which I love dearly.) Because of last season's sheer numbers, (37 total productions were eligible) the competition was off the charts. Now, with 31 of those shows closed, we're left with a "weaker" season because producers who were counting on those big shows to run longer had to scramble to find new shows to fill the houses. Broadway shows take YEARS to develop, so it's not like you can pick the next big hit out of a hat and have it be ready just like that. Yeah, this season is pretty thin, especially for musicals, but that's how it goes. Next season is already shaping up to be a lot stronger, so hopefully we get some better competition then.

I'm honestly amazed that Summer got any kind of nod at all after the reviews it got. Nothing against LaChanze or Ariana, but this feels like more of a consolation prize than an actual reward for the performance.

Updated On: 5/1/18 at 12:43 PM

[theaterdude2]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 1:04pm

What's with all of these comments about Come From Away? It's over. It lost. Get over it.

It's not part of this season. Why bother imagining how it would have done had it opened this season instead? 

 

 

 

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 1:08pm

S394206H said: "A few thoughts I have after reading this thread-

As a novice scenic designer myself, Mean Girls shouldn't have been nominated for Scenic Design. Projections design needs to be its own separate category, especially as it is a completely different design process than designing a set.

People are complaining about how weak this season is- Broadway seasons ebb and flow. In my opinion, 15-16 was our most recent "standard" season- it had a decent amount of shows open, and even with Hamilton as the clear winner from the beginning, it was still a competitive enough season to be interesting. Last season, everyone rushed to pack the season in an attempt to be the next "Hamilton," while many of them should have spent more time in workshops and tryouts and opened this season instead (Looking at you, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory- a show which I love dearly.) Because of last season's sheer numbers, (37 total productions were eligible) the competition was off the charts. Now, with 31 of those shows closed, we're left with a "weaker" season because producers who were counting on those big shows to run longer had to scramble to find new shows to fill the houses. Broadway shows take YEARS to develop, so it's not like you can pickthe next big hit out of a hat and have it be ready just like that. Yeah, this season is pretty thin, especially for musicals, but that's how it goes. Next season is already shaping up to be a lot stronger, so hopefully we get some better competition then.

I'm honestly amazed that Summer got any kind of nod at all after the reviews it got. Nothing against LaChanze or Ariana, but this feels like more of a consolation prize than an actual reward for the performance."

I’m genuinely curious (no snark intended) what new musicals have you hopeful for next season. When I looked at the projected upcoming new musicals, I’m even less hopeful for next season. Of course, this time last year I’m not sure I knew anything about The Band’s Visit (which I dearly love), but I don’t see anything coming that excites me. I made a list of what I’d like to see when I hopefully get to NYC in November after my June trip. So far it’s four musicals I’ve already seen (Hamilton, Dear Evan Hansen, Wicked and The Band’s Visit), only one new musical King King (a likely hot mess but I’m a sucker for a big ape), and three plays (Torch Song, The Ferryman, and Bernhardt/Hamlet). Love Cher, but not excited for The Cher Show. 

Updated On: 5/1/18 at 01:08 PM

[PJPan]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 1:13pm

Question (and forgive me if it's been asked elsewhere): Is Laurie Metcalf the first performer to be nominated three years in a row?

[veraclaythorne2]

Posted: 5/1/18 at 1:19pm

PJPan said: "Question (and forgive me if it's been asked elsewhere): Is Laurie Metcalf the first performer to be nominated three years in a row?"

I'm not sure how often it has happened before, but Raúl Esparza was nominated in 2007, 2008, and 2009.