Patti LuPone called a privileged, racially microaggressive bully by Hell's Kitchen cast member — Page 5

Ensemble1698878795 said: "gibsons2 said: "Ensemble1698878795 said:
The whiteness on this board has elevated to puredelusion. It's giving Trump excuses and reasoning. I'm glad Kecia Lewis spoke up and think the heatonMs. LuPone is well earned. This was an opportunity for LuPone to strike up a response. To acknowledge the possible miscommunication "on both sides." To be an example for the "community." Instead, silence. The privilege to walk away."

Kecia Lewis had an opportunity to not post that video and instead privately address the issue directly with Patty, who she baselessly accused of racism, or with the theater management."

Why would should go talk to Patty when the change on HK's sound already happened? The damage is done.When white privilege is addressed in private nothing changes. This is public and y'all arestill in denial."

What damage are you speaking of? HK rakes in 1.5 mm weekly in grosses and The Roommate play is a limited run with 2 actors which is closing in a few weeks. HK will keep being one of top financially successful musicals for months (if not years) and small, limited run plays will come and go. What damage? What white privilege? People are out of their minds.

Updated On: 11/4/24 at 11:38 AM

CreatureKitchen said: "I actually think Patti should probably speak to Kecia.Privately.

My point is that making this public was a poor decision. It’s become tabloid fodder for racist right wing nut jobs who are making vile comments about Kecia, as well as people simply dragging her because they think she overreacted. And the flack Patti has gotten has likely put her on the defensive and has not helped Kecia’s cause of getting an apology and opening up dialogue. Walking away may be a privilege, but it’s also absolutely what Patti should do (at least publicly). No attempt at an apology is going to be received well with the temperature this high. Again, a private conversation may have allowed for more productive dialogue, but it very much seems Kecia wanted this to be a public issue."

Patti should absolutely not speak with Kecia Lewis privately. This was a privately handled matter that Lewis decided to make public. She cannot be trusted not to take whatever is said in a private conversation to make another video misrepresenting what happened just like she did in the first one.

Lewis wanted attention by latching on to a bigger name who was getting a lot of press. She has it. A narcissist like that isn't going to let it go that easily.

Updated On: 11/4/24 at 12:01 PM

Ensemble1698878795 said: The whiteness on this board has elevated to pure delusion. It's giving Trump excuses and reasoning. I'm glad Kecia Lewis spoke up and think the heat on Ms. LuPone is well earned. This was an opportunity for LuPone to strike up a response. To acknowledge the possible miscommunication "on both sides." To be an example for the "community." Instead, silence. The privilege to walk away.

This is being upset that people are not blindly accepting something - that people are not kowtowing to a perspective without asking any questions, considering relevant details, or incorporating their gut feelings and instincts into their assessment of what's going on. You want people to listen *and* to somehow trim out and disown anything that strays from KL's post (which excludes many relevant details about the situation). Evidently this is, through your lens, the only way to be a decent, responsible, caring person. I have faith that a lot of - even most - people on here who disagree with you are decent, respectful, open-minded people who'd condemn any kind of extreme Trumpian mindset, or any sort of inequitable or unnuanced way of relating for that matter. You act like Patti Lupone’s right/privilege to be silent, to walk away from this, or to handle it privately is something Kecia Lewis does not have. You create a cloud of smoke with semantics, misdirection, and accusation to distract from the uncomfortable, unpleasant reality that *in this case* a lot of people aren’t seeing this as laudable or an act of pure integrity. Plenty of "call-in's," teaching moments, and public repairs of conflict and misunderstanding have been more widely trusted and appreciated. This is just not one of them.

Updated On: 11/4/24 at 12:14 PM

I have never seen a single "issue" on Broadway so blown out of proportion.

And someone comparing posters on this board who point that out to Trump's "level of delusion" is a prime example of why social media is a terrible way to have meaningful conversation, and why folks don't take it seriously when actual forms of racism and/or oppression show rear their heads. Because there is no conversation, merely taking sides: one side MUST be right and the other MUST be wrong, and you'd better be on the right side and not ask questions or else the social media mob will pile on with comments.

When my upstairs neighbors play music too loud and the bass starts thumping into my place while I'm having a meeting or trying to concentrate on work, I tell them to please turn it down because it's too loud. This request has no relation to my neighbors' race, sexuality, gender, religion, class, or any other aspect of their personhood. It only has to do with their music being so damn loud that it is disturbing my space.

And THIS is what we need a social media culture war about? Good grief. I guess everyone needs to take their mind off the election with SOMETHING.

Are some people actually claiming that Kecia can't be criticized because she's Black? That saying she made a mistake is policing her? But claiming Patti made a mistake is not policing? And if The Roommate was next to The Who's Tommy and some white actor responded to Patti having gotten the sound levels lowered, criticizing said white person would be okay and would not be policing? I cannot support that argument at all.