SPIDER-MAN Team Says 'Critics Should Not Review Until Invited'- Page 2

[uncageg]

Posted: 1/14/11 at 9:35pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/theater/15spider.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&src=twr

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/14/11 at 9:36pm

Yes, I certainly hope the existence of the Spider-Man musical is the issue that finally makes the press stand up for John Q. Public.

[jv92]

Posted: 1/14/11 at 9:37pm

Dear Producers,

TOO F*CKING BAD! GET YOUR SH*T TOGETHER!

(Sorry, vulgar. Just had to.)

But PJ is right, this show is on its way to being critic proof, so it doesn't really matter.

[CurtainPullDowner]

Posted: 1/15/11 at 12:00am

As PalJoey said, the critics are all but losing any power,most people in the hinderlands think the show has already opened to bad reviews and last week it beat WICKED.
Critics want to review it now, so their review is even read.
The new pushed back opening made all the papers in NYC today.
You can't buy publicity like that.
Interesting the Daily News had a story with a big picture of the cute new Movie Spidey.
Any pics of Reeve in his sexy Spidey Drag out there?

[jimmycurry01]

Posted: 1/15/11 at 3:38am

I can't believe someone here actually said that critics have no right to review it yet. The critics have every right to review it at anytime they wish, they are simply asked not to do so until it officially opens. I find it absurd that anyone would try to argue the contrary.

[DRSisLove]

Posted: 1/15/11 at 10:59am

I honestly don't get why people are freaking out. Spider-Man is the producers' show... they can do whatever they want. They can open whenever they want, they can close whenever they want, and they can charge however much they want.

Customers have will power, too. They can willingly choose to purchase tickets to an unfinished project, and, they are allowed a refund or exchange if the opening night gets changed.

It's really not as "criminal" as you guys make it seem...

[Stewpot]

Posted: 1/15/11 at 11:37am

Ha Ha Ha, like an invitation is going to matter. The show is still going to be awful two months down the road.

[quizking101]

Posted: 1/15/11 at 12:07pm

They who delay opening night four times must deal with the testy public...

Let the critics in and have them drive in the wooden stake once and for all.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 1/15/11 at 1:32pm

Well, at least the audience has reviewed the show!

[VernonGersch]

Posted: 1/15/11 at 8:57pm

a friend just texted me that they had to stop the show for 30 seconds at the start of act one tonight - bring on those reviews!

[dragonlp86]

Posted: 1/15/11 at 9:14pm

Well, by this standard, if they never open, they can never have any 'official' bad reviews!

[rocker05]

Posted: 1/15/11 at 10:43pm

According to that NY Times article, Taymor acknowledges that the public despises "Deeply Furious", yet she insists on keeping it in the show. It's not even important to the plot and it's incredibly random. After reading the rest of what she says, it looks as though most of the show will not be changed at all. A few refinements will not help the show. All I know is that there has not been one change since the first preview.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 1/16/11 at 12:24am

[fingerlakessinger]

Posted: 1/16/11 at 5:11am

I'm sorry...but Taymor is an IDIOT
Previews are for the creative team to test the show, see what works and does not, and see what the audience likes/dislikes
Audiences HATE "Deeply Furious" yet she want's to keep it???

How has this women held power in the theatrical community?

And now one of the composers has left again? Didnt they just get back a few weeks ago from a tour? Now Bono (I think it's him) is leaving once again?

I dont see why the producers are concerned about letting the critics in. The show is going to be the same exact show on opening night, they said nothing is gonna change just a few "refinements" which means a few meaningless details I'm sure that the producers had to beg Taymor to let in.

Please, Critics, review this mess

[dramamama611]

Posted: 1/16/11 at 8:44am

The producers have set up their own analogy:
Critics shouldn't review until invited just as
Prodcuers shouldn't sell a show that isn't complete.


And yes, one of the posted articles states that Bono has again left the country.


I could care less if they review it or not, but they have every right to do so.

[Kalimba]

Posted: 1/16/11 at 8:53am

Why people continue to fund projects that Julie Taymor helms is beyond me. Granted her Lion King is a huge success, but her movies suck, and she has proven without a doubt that she has the "all style, no substance" thing down pat.

[crewdude]

Posted: 1/16/11 at 11:21am

Lead Producer Michael Cohl says in the NYTimes article "We’re not bound by old expectations of when to open or not to open."
Then WHY should any critic feel "bound by old expectations of when" to review?

You set yourself up Cohl!

[Scott Briefer]

Posted: 1/16/11 at 12:02pm

The article in the Huffington Post was very insightful. The truth is that Spider-man has been reviewed and hundreds of thousands of people - millions - have read them. AND, they are still buying tickets. With the Internet and specifically, social media and boards like this one, the reviews have been out since moments after starting it's very first preview performance. (My understanding is that there were Tweets being sent soon after the curtain went up.)

Some people just want to see this production, for whatever reason. Publicity has only enhanced the box office. Who really cares what The New York Times says in this case? Haven't we already formed a consensus that the visuals are stunning and that the book and music are mixed to negative?

I am truly taken by the seeming consideration to all of those unsuspecting tourists who need critics from the major papers to validate their theater experiences, or at the very least what they should and shouldn't support. Please.
Updated On: 1/16/11 at 12:02 PM

[Marlothom]

Posted: 1/16/11 at 1:59pm

I agree with HuffPost article; the main goal of critics, as journalists, should be to INFORM, not play nice with producers - with all the chatter from social media there is very little new information to share. In fact, I would be an immediate fan of any theatre journalist that keeps me posted as to the changes that are happening to this this ASAP, and not wait until March 15. Furthermore, I will be bored by any critic that pokes fun at the shoe song -that is SO Nov. 2010.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 1/16/11 at 2:35pm

If people want to pay to see this - opened or in eternal previews. he people make the decission whether or not to see this.

Right now it is the flavor of the week. To pay what they are charging for this - blame the people for forking over $$ to see this mess. Having seen the montage of this, I would like to know where the $60 - $80 million has gone? The sets & whole production look tacky & ugly

[VernonGersch]

Posted: 1/16/11 at 2:57pm

We want to read the major critics weigh in on this show. Period. Geniune thoughtful articulate theatrical criticisim.

Print journalists - plead the case with your respective editors and have this show properly reviewed...people are buying tickets to something that they dont know is a preview (although to digress for one second - I was taking to a friend who doesnt really keep up on all the theater news - and that friend thought the show wasnt having any performances until it 'opens' in March)

Also, does it say any ANYWHERE on TICKETMASTER that what one is purchasing tickets for is a show in "previews"? Just curious...

[another sloe eyed vamp]

Posted: 1/18/11 at 5:13pm

So why would they open? If they can charge full price for tickets, get all the publicity with none of the bad reviews, why open at all? Why not just stay in previews?

(That's a serious question, I'm not being snarky. Sorry if it's been answered and asked already.)

[LiveLoud22]

Posted: 1/18/11 at 5:40pm

First post on these boards, ya'll. Honestly, I get giddy at the notion of *certain* critics becoming irrelevant. Brantley, like many of the members of this board, is a self-righteous homosexual who needs to stuff his face.





Updated On: 1/18/11 at 05:40 PM

[sabrelady]

Posted: 1/18/11 at 9:12pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Katie, bar the door!!!