Posted: 10/18/23 at 9:45am
BoringBoredBoard40 said: "it is not the music box for the 80th time"
Is it still not the Music Box?
Posted: 10/18/23 at 9:45am
BoringBoredBoard40 said: "it 100% isn't the music box"
Posted: 10/18/23 at 9:47am
BoringBoredBoard40 said: "it is not the music box for the 80th time"
Posted: 10/18/23 at 9:48am
But it 100% isn't the Music Box! For the 80th time!!
Posted: 10/18/23 at 9:55am
stoptheworld38 said: "For what it’s worth (which yes, I fully realize is not much so don’t come at me) sweaty oracle says it’s the Music Box"
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: he ain't always wrong.
Posted: 10/18/23 at 10:09am
TaffyDavenport said: "stoptheworld38 said: "For what it’s worth (which yes, I fully realize is not much so don’t come at me) sweaty oracle says it’s the Music Box"
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: he ain't always wrong."
Agreed. He will report ANYTHING, even if it's probably BS or very likely to change. But, he does have some real sources.
Posted: 10/18/23 at 10:50am
Does he have sources or some desperate people who sometimes feed him information, for god knows what? Because I don't think there has ever been a single show where he's consistently reported correctly or even when aspect that he's shown consistency with (such as clocking the right venues for most shows)
Posted: 10/18/23 at 10:56am
"Orchestrations by Michael Starobin"
love to see it.
Hopefully they have figured out the big problems of the piece and can move forward with a more interesting, entertaining show. Leigh Silverman and musicals might not be a natural fit, which could be the biggest obstacle here, but...we'll see.
Posted: 10/18/23 at 10:59am
pethian said: "I'm putting my two cents on The Music Box."
Post #56 on 9/15. Now, if I could only pick lottery numbers.
Posted: 10/18/23 at 11:04am
The issue with him is that he is not in NYC nor does he have substantial experience or connections in the industry. He is incapable of actually vetting the rumors he receives (and is maybe even unwilling to do so), which means he’s reporting a lot of noise but will occasionally get some signal.
FWIW, there are people on this board who are substantially more reliable sources of insider info.
Posted: 10/18/23 at 5:47pm
Happy to see the news confirmed.
I have another big "coming to Broadway" news I can spill next week...
This is A BIG ONE...that most people didn't see coming.......
Posted: 10/19/23 at 12:25pm
More remarkable which no one seems to be talking about is the proposed budget of $19M. What in the world of Spider Man are they spending that on? Ms. Clinton, if the audience doesn't get to see Hugh Jackman driving a Delorean suspended by a helicopter, I'm calling into question this whole production. Unless literally half of that budget is going into advertising and reserve, then this whole set up is iffy at best.
Posted: 10/19/23 at 12:54pm
$19M is no longer a particularly expensive show. I don't think folks realize how expensive it has become to get to Broadway. Based on what's been published, almost every full-scale new musical arriving on Broadway this season is costing over $15M. This, of course, includes both reserve and development costs (which can be close to half the total budget; I imagine the Public run alone cost Suffs $2-3M).
Posted: 10/19/23 at 12:57pm
Bobster159 said: "$19M is no longer a particularly expensive show. I don't think folks realize how expensive it has become to get to Broadway. Based on what's been published, almost every full-scale new musical arriving on Broadway this season is costing over $15M. This, of course, includes both reserve and development costs (which can be close to half the total budget; I imagine the Public run alone cost Suffs $2-3M)."
Word is that the budget for DEATH BECOMES HER is close to $30M!
Posted: 10/19/23 at 1:00pm
More remarkable which no one seems to be talking about is the proposed budget of $19M. What in the world of Spider Man are they spending that on?
That isn't a hugely expensive budget, especially these days. Comparing that to your reference of a $75 million show in 2010 and it's a bargain.
Posted: 10/19/23 at 1:01pm
Jumpin_J said: "More remarkable which no one seems to be talking about is the proposed budget of $19M. What in the world of Spider Man are they spending that on? Ms. Clinton, if the audience doesn't get to see Hugh Jackman driving a Delorean suspended by a helicopter, I'm calling into question this whole production. Unless literally half of that budget is going into advertising and reserve, then this whole set up is iffy at best. "
$19m is less- substantially less- than quite a few shows on Broadway or currently circling it. Betty Boop, for instance, is capitalized in the mid-20s. That’s why it’s not being commented on- it’s, unfortunately, unremarkable.
Posted: 10/19/23 at 1:13pm
I bet at a minimum $4-5 million of that budget is development expenses for the Public production and the big workshops they've done since then. And now they can't carry over any physical assets from the Public production that might have been in storage following the initial run (costumes, set, props, etc).
Add to it a healthy contingency of $1-3 mil to cover any overages or cushion box office losses in early weeks.
$12 mil would be high for a midsized musical a few years ago, but doing a Broadway musical on the cheap is almost impossible nowadays unless it's INTO THE WOODS, which lifted everything from Encores.
Whoever can figure out a business model of how to produce quality original musicals that look good for under $10 mil will be hailed as a genius and a savior of the industry.
Updated On: 10/19/23 at 01:13 PM
Posted: 12/1/23 at 6:13pm
Voter said: "Any word when tickets go on sale?"
Tickets go on sale to the general public Monday at 10 AM.
Also, a demo recording of a brand-new song from the musical, called "Keep Marching," will be released that same day!
Updated On: 12/1/23 at 06:13 PM
Posted: 12/1/23 at 6:18pm
SUFFSCYBER on Telecharge Offers for presale and discounted preview tickets, valid through Monday at 9:59 a.m. ET.
The thing I'm most curious about is whether or not Shaina Taub will continue to star. I think not, but maybe we'll find out some casting news on Monday.
Updated On: 12/1/23 at 06:18 PM
Posted: 12/3/23 at 12:25pm
What a season!! I understand that they have done some great work here since the Public!!
Posted: 12/4/23 at 10:28am
https://www.playbill.com/article/hear-shaina-taub-sing-suffs-new-finale-number-keep-marching
Updated On: 12/4/23 at 10:28 AM
Posted: 12/4/23 at 10:47am
I don't remember what the finale was at the Public, but that's certainly an uplifting end to the show.
