SUNSET BLVD. Reviews - Page 41

[chernjam]

Posted: 3/1/25 at 1:57pm

PipingHotPiccolo said: "Binau is right that the fever of canceling people for their beliefs we dont like is breaking, thankfully. Others are right that Nicole has never come out and supported Trump.

But the point stands: she clearly likes/affiliates with RFK Jr, Russell Brand, types. Truly the worst people, because Trump is a sick narcissist but that crew are eagerly peddling the worst kinds of misinformation. Nicole could have easily disassociated herself from these people and has chosen not to.

Does this mean the entire production of Sunset should implode or does this deny her incredible vocal talent? Of course not. Does it tell me all I need to know about who she is as a person? I'm afraid it does--clueless at best, indifferent perhaps, if we're being charitable.

And given whats going on in Washington, that we are literally teetering on the brink here, yeah, lets call her out for it whenever we can.

"

The fever is breaking... as you go on to demonstrate how absolutely it is not - when you want to read her heart, mind and intentions just because she liked a few tweets or perhaps doesn't have the litmus test for who or what can be even discussed in the public forum anymore.

Whatever 

If people want to try to bring her down, the show down, sabotage her deserved Tony award because of this type of nonsense, then keep asking yourselves why Broadway is on the brink financially once again.

[BETTY22]

Posted: 3/1/25 at 4:51pm

The show is returning to London without Nicole.....

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 3/1/25 at 5:05pm

Just saw it this afternoon. Saw the Glenn Close revival years ago. Was very meh on this musical. Nicole was on another level. Absolutely amazing. Her voice is beyond. I cried. Just give her the Tony now. 

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 3/1/25 at 5:07pm

chernjam said: "PipingHotPiccolo said: "Binau is right that the fever of canceling people for their beliefs we dont like is breaking, thankfully. Others are right that Nicole has never come out and supported Trump.

But the point stands: she clearly likes/affiliates with RFK Jr, Russell Brand, types. Truly the worst people, because Trump is a sick narcissist but that crew are eagerly peddling the worst kinds of misinformation. Nicole could have easily disassociated herself from these people and has chosen not to.

Does this mean the entire production of Sunset should implode or does this deny her incredible vocal talent? Of course not. Does it tell me all I need to know about who she is as a person? I'm afraid it does--clueless at best, indifferent perhaps, if we're being charitable.

And given whats going on in Washington, that we are literally teetering on the brink here, yeah, lets call her out for it whenever we can.

"

The fever is breaking... as you go on to demonstrate how absolutely it is not - when you want to read her heart, mind and intentions just because she liked a few tweets or perhaps doesn't have the litmus test for who or what can be even discussed in the public forum anymore.

Whatever

If people want to try to bring her down, the show down, sabotage her deserved Tony award because of this type of nonsense, then keep asking yourselves why Broadway is on the brink financially once again."

The fever i describe is a hunt for reasons to boycott/end careers, to react to every slightest perceived insult with accusations of racism/misogyny. I've done none of that. But you might be right- the pendulum could be swinging the other way, where people like you now argue that support for junk science, outright bigotry etc., is beyond reproach, that we must just nod and accept these outrages as mere differences of opinion. You'd like that, I guess, but never.

And i'm not reading her heart. I'm stating facts about what she has and has not done. I literally said the opposite of what you try to paint here- about sabotaging the show, or her award chances, or whatever conspiracy theory youre whipping up over there.

As for Broadway being financially on the brink- well, I have absolutely no idea what youre talking about, or how that connects to a Broadway actress' support (or at best refusal to clarify her non-support) for the ugliest people in our society, but I doubt you do either.

[dinabobbiemanke]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 12:38am

She apologized and unfollowed Brand. She also had liked a bunch of Harris posts before hat-gate so I truly don't understand how this is still a thing. Scherzinger is a WOC and a queer ally who has only endorsed liberal candidates - to write her off because of a misguided instagram comment feels kind of closed-minded to me...

[binau]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 4:00am

Does anyone else love the moment that Norma says she can't go on with the scene but the timing/lighting/sound/line reading makes it ambiguous about whether it's Nicole or Norma talking? It's so haunting. The whole final scene with the scary lighting, jumps etc.. is so effective. It's like a thrilling cross between Carrie/Sweeney Todd with the star power of Hello, Dolly all mixed into one. It's so hard to pull off horror on stage in a way that is actually thrilling and not cringe, but Jamie Lloyd and Nicole have actually done it and I don't think it can be understated how rare it is...

[Seb28]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 9:45am

WiCkEDrOcKS said: "This is absolutely not true. Tom performed in both shows on 12/11. Blessyou."

Then she didn't visit the show on the day she announced in the talkshow. 

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 9:50am

dinabobbiemanke said: "She apologized and unfollowed Brand. She also had liked a bunch of Harris posts before hat-gate so I truly don't understand how this is still a thing. Scherzinger is a WOC and a queer ally who has only endorsed liberal candidates - to write her off because of a misguidedinstagram comment feels kind of closed-mindedto me..."

I'm just going to say it: it also feels misogynistic and racist. All this hatred for a woman and POC. There are male white Broadway actors who are Republicans and no one really goes after them. But she likes one comment on IG and people are ready to cancel her? 

Updated On: 3/2/25 at 09:50 AM

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 10:04am

Seb28 said: "WiCkEDrOcKS said: "This is absolutely not true. Tom performed in both shows on 12/11. Blessyou."

Then she didn't visit the show on the day she announced in the talkshow."

It was announced months ago that her plans changed because Tom was out sick. She went back on a night he was back on. 

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 10:14am

poisonivy2 said: "dinabobbiemanke said: "She apologized and unfollowed Brand. She also had liked a bunch of Harris posts before hat-gate so I truly don't understand how this is still a thing. Scherzinger is a WOC and a queer ally who has only endorsed liberal candidates - to write her off because of a misguidedinstagram comment feels kind of closed-mindedto me..."

I'm just going to say it: it also feels misogynistic and racist. All this hatred for a woman and POC. There are male white Broadway actors who are Republicans and no one really goes after them. But she likes one comment on IG and people are ready to cancel her?"

this made me lol. she willingly associates herself with misogynists and racists, and then those who call her out for it are the misogynists and racists. this is why we cant have nice things. just too much silliness.

that said, if there are male white Broadway actors who are Trump-supporting, or anti-vax pushing, please illuminate me. id still see their shows (like i did Sunset) and still defend their right to believe whatever disgusting views they hold (like i do Nicole) but I'd love to know and genuinely do not. 

[Kad]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 10:15am

This thread needs to be preserved for scientific study, truly. 

[chernjam]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 10:35am

binau said: "Does anyone else love the moment that Norma says she can't go on with the scene but the timing/lighting/sound/line reading makes it ambiguous about whether it's Nicole or Norma talking? It's so haunting. The whole final scene with the scary lighting, jumps etc.. is so effective. It's like a thrilling cross between Carrie/Sweeney Todd with the star power of Hello, Dolly all mixed into one. It's so hard to pull off horror on stage in a way that is actually thrilling and not cringe, but Jamie Lloyd and Nicole have actually done it and I don't think it can be understated how rare it is..."

of all the brilliant moments in this production - this absolutely helped take it to another level... If I hadn't the entire score memorized to know exactly each line and note, I would've been confused for a moment she takes it to such a different level that for sure you're not sure if Nicole or Norma is having a breakdown.  It is stunning.

Honestly I hated when Patti LuPone before she went to see it had called the original show a "LUMBERING musical" - but in hindsight I have to concede her point.  There are so many moments that Jamie Lloyd really turned into something intense and riveting that really re-invented the show.  The fact that the Act II opening is as amazing as it is - it's hard to believe that previously a guy just stood and delivered a soliquoy standing on a stage with a few props.  

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 10:46am

PipingHotPiccolo said: "poisonivy2 said: "dinabobbiemanke said: "She apologized and unfollowed Brand. She also had liked a bunch of Harris posts before hat-gate so I truly don't understand how this is still a thing. Scherzinger is a WOC and a queer ally who has only endorsed liberal candidates - to write her off because of a misguidedinstagram comment feels kind of closed-mindedto me..."

I'm just going to say it: it also feels misogynistic and racist. All this hatred for a woman and POC. There are male white Broadway actors who are Republicans and no one really goes after them. But she likes one comment on IG and people are ready to cancel her?"

this made me lol. she willingly associates herself with misogynists and racists, and then those who call her out for it are the misogynists and racists. this is why we cant have nice things. just too much silliness.

that said, if there are male white Broadway actors who are Trump-supporting, or anti-vax pushing, please illuminate me. id still see their shows (like i did Sunset) and still defend their right to believe whatever disgusting views they hold (like i do Nicole) but I'd love to know and genuinely do not."

FOR THE LAST TIME SHE DID NOT COME OUT AS MAGA. SHE HAS SAID THIS NUMEROUS TIMES. This reminds me of how women are often not believed when they tell their side of the story. 

I also don't know what you expect people to do. Cancel the show immediately? Send her death threats?

As for Republican actors there are a bunch. Kelsey Grammer is a major one. Adam Sandler too. Finally, because he's CURRENTLY on Broadway: Denzel Washington.

Updated On: 3/2/25 at 10:46 AM

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 11:03am

ive said repeatedly that i am not calling for anything to happen to her, the show, etc. is it so hard to comprehend the space between "this person holds odious views" and "fire the person with odious views?" 

News to me about Denzel Washington! But I think you're confusing "republican" with "trumpist"--i know lots of Republicans who are passionately anti-Trump, and i dont conflate the two at all. I was reacting to the idea that there is some other Broadway star with similar affiliations coasting under the radar. Sounds like there are NOT, but I agree that if Denzel Washington is liking and mugging with red-hat propaganda and its being totally ignored, then Nicole is being held to a different standard, and appreciate you highlighting it.

[edited to add that the very first google hit is a lengthy dismantling of the notion that Denzel Washington has ever supported Trump at all, which seems like an invented lie.]

Updated On: 3/2/25 at 11:03 AM

[Seb28]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 11:06am

Bwaygurl2 said: "Seb28 said: "WiCkEDrOcKS said: "This is absolutely not true. Tom performed in both shows on 12/11. Blessyou."

Then she didn't visit the show on the day she announced in the talkshow."

It was announced months ago that her plans changed because Tom was out sick. She went back on a night he was back on."

Thanks for the info! I wonder when she went then. I knew Tom was off with laryngitis the day she had tickets. The talkshow was on friday, she announced to go on wednesday. Her review/voicemail came right after that. If she didn't go the day right after her initially planned day, something is off.

 

 

 

 

Updated On: 3/2/25 at 11:06 AM

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 11:13am

PipingHotPiccolo said: "ive said repeatedly that i am not calling for anything to happen to her, the show, etc. is it so hard to comprehend the space between "this person holds odious views" and "fire the person with odious views?"

News to me about Denzel Washington! But I think you're confusing "republican" with "trumpist"--i know lots of Republicans who are passionately anti-Trump, and i dont conflate the two at all. I was reacting to the idea that there is some other Broadway star with similar affiliations coasting under the radar. Sounds like there are NOT, but I agree that if Denzel Washington is liking and mugging with red-hat propaganda and its being totally ignored, then Nicole is being held to a different standard, and appreciate you highlighting it.

[edited to add that the very first google hit is a lengthy dismantling of the notion that Denzel Washington has ever supported Trump at all, which seems like an invented lie.]"

Denzel has said a bunch of very MAGA-coded stuff and it's flown under the radar.

About mass incarceration, he said this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8a2_9RjiwE

This is a lot of fear-mongering about 11-year old murderers and how it's the culture of the African American home that is leading to crime.

Denzel also did this "both sides" crap after the election:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/denzel-washington-people-manipulated-both-political-sides-election-1236063902/

Again, this guy is currently on Broadway with a very expensive Shakespeare production, and all this stuff has been totally ignored.

[Huss417]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 11:15am

Seb28 said: "Bwaygurl2 said: "Seb28 said: "WiCkEDrOcKS said: "This is absolutely not true. Tom performed in both shows on 12/11. Blessyou."

Then she didn't visit the show on the day she announced in the talkshow."

It was announced months ago that her plans changed because Tom was out sick. She went back on a night he was back on."

Thanks for the info! I wonder when she went then.I knew Tom was off with laryngitis the day she had tickets. The talkshow was on friday, she announced to go on wednesday. Her review/voicemail came right after that. If she didn't go the day rightafter her initially planned day, something is off.




"

A simple search will give you all the info you need.

https://www.edgemedianetwork.com/story/336977

[TaffyDavenport]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 11:17am

Seb28 said: "Bwaygurl2 said: "Seb28 said: "WiCkEDrOcKS said: "This is absolutely not true. Tom performed in both shows on 12/11. Blessyou."

Then she didn't visit the show on the day she announced in the talkshow."

It was announced months ago that her plans changed because Tom was out sick. She went back on a night he was back on."

Thanks for the info! I wonder when she went then.I knew Tom was off with laryngitis the day she had tickets. The talkshow was on friday, she announced to go on wednesday. Her review/voicemail came right after that. If she didn't go the day rightafter her initially planned day, something is off."

She was on The View November 1.

She was supposed to see Sunset November 6.

She saw Sunset December 11, and Frank DiLella posted her voicemail review on December 12.

Nothing is "off."

 

 

Updated On: 3/2/25 at 11:17 AM

[Seb28]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 12:02pm

Thanks! All clear now. I was going by the date she announced.

Updated On: 3/2/25 at 12:02 PM

[kdogg36]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 12:12pm

poisonivy2 said: "There are male white Broadway actors who are Republicans and no one really goes after them."

Chad Kimball and Zachary Levi have both been rightly condemned here for their despicable views.

[FANtomFollies]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 12:31pm

kdogg36 said: "poisonivy2 said: "There are male white Broadway actors who are Republicans and no one really goes after them."

Chad Kimball and Zachary Levi have both been rightly condemned here for their despicable views."

They were spewing hate speech, which is completely different than what Nicole did.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 12:44pm

Nicole isn't MAGA and the people here trying to attack her are just white, insecure, misogynistic men who hate women, especially confident women of Color. Simple.

There are many Republican theater actors currently working, they are simply quiet about it. Zach hasn't worked on Broadway since 2016 (one-night cameos don't count), and Chad hasn't worked here since 2020. So, bad examples. Besides, Zach being a Republican was no problem until he did the most disgusting, horrifying thing last Fall. That is why he will never work on Broadway again. Everyone knows that. 

Updated On: 3/2/25 at 12:44 PM

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 2:01pm

Not to mention Nicole has the vocal support of Patti Lupone, who simply wouldn't be friends with a hardcore MAGA. I believe Patti.

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 6:47pm

Sutton Ross said: "Nicole isn't MAGA and the people here trying to attack her are just white, insecure, misogynistic men who hate women, especially confident women of Color. Simple."

Simple! 

[dinabobbiemanke]

Posted: 3/2/25 at 10:36pm

poisonivy2 said: "dinabobbiemanke said: "She apologized and unfollowed Brand. She also had liked a bunch of Harris posts before hat-gate so I truly don't understand how this is still a thing. Scherzinger is a WOC and a queer ally who has only endorsed liberal candidates - to write her off because of a misguidedinstagram comment feels kind of closed-mindedto me..."

I'm just going to say it: it also feels misogynistic and racist. All this hatred for a woman and POC. There are male white Broadway actors who are Republicans and no one really goes after them. But she likes one comment on IG and people are ready to cancel her?"

Thank you for saying it! There are also men who've been credibly accused of sexual harassment currently on Broadway that this board loves to celebrate. It sucks to see Nicole get more pushback for liking Brand's post (who, yes, is 100% vile! and bc she's since unfollowed him, I'm going to assume she agrees) than these actors do for behavior that has tangible, dire consequences.