Scott Rudin takedown - Page 14

[Fosse76]

Posted: 4/16/21 at 10:17pm

Jordan Catalano said: "How many actors/musicians/backstage/tech etc will “Music Man” employ for however long it runs? How many jobs are people suggesting be effectively taken away from those who’ve been out of work for over a year, for the sole reason Rudin is attached to this?
"

Exactly! Let the abuse continue!

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/16/21 at 10:19pm

Not at all what I’m saying. Just asking a question.

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 4/16/21 at 10:21pm

Jordan Catalano said: "Not at all what I’m saying. Just asking a question."

Don't forget Rudin just unemployed everyone who worked for Beetlejuice so he could have "his" theater.

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 4/16/21 at 10:46pm

poisonivy2 said: "Jordan Catalano said: "Not at all what I’m saying. Just asking a question."

Don't forget Rudin just unemployed everyone who worked for Beetlejuice so he could have "his" theater."

The pandemic unemployed everyone so this argument is fruitless. 

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 4/16/21 at 11:13pm

Two things:

The devil has enough advocates

Check out Will Blum's instagram story

(I don’t necessarily agree with it, but I was surprised it hadn’t been brought up yet) Updated On: 4/16/21 at 11:13 PM

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 4/16/21 at 11:23pm

"We made you????" Wow, I didn't know who Will Blum was before and I hope to never know him again.  

[HogansHero]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 12:12am

HenryTDobson said: "poisonivy2 said:

Don't forget Rudin just unemployed everyone who worked for Beetlejuice so he could have "his" theater."

The pandemic unemployed everyone so this argument is fruitless."

Can you unpack that statement? What are you trying to say? I am unable to decipher how "this argument [could be] fruitless." Your premise is a non-sequitur. 

 

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 12:48am

HenryTDobson said: "poisonivy2 said: "Jordan Catalano said: "Not at all what I’m saying. Just asking a question."

Don't forget Rudin just unemployed everyone who worked for Beetlejuice so he could have "his" theater."

The pandemic unemployed everyone so this argument is fruitless."

No, it's not. Before the pandemic, he had every intention of evicting a show that was doing well at the box office because he wanted to move his own new show in. Do you think that would have happened had it not been Scott Rudin and had he not had a monopoly on which shows play in the Shubert organization and which shows don't? So I'm saying that the argument that he creates a lot of jobs isn't that strong, because he also has put a lot of people out of a job as well with his strong-arm tactics. 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 1:02am

@poison My comment was directed at Henry and in particular his use of "fruitless." I understood your point completely. (Maybe you thought you were responding to him?) 

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 1:08am

HogansHero said: "@poison My comment was directed at Henry and in particular his use of "fruitless." I understood your point completely. (Maybe you thought you were responding to him?)"

Yeah I was responding to Henry. Oops. 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 1:23am

actually, it was my oops. you didn't quote me lol

time for bed i guess

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 4:10am

I am not very familiar with this person but he looks like a monster so I would imagine if he is prone to acting up it must be quite frightening.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 11:07am

"Broadway producer Scott Rudin steps aside amid accusations of abusive behavior going back decades, apologizes for pain he caused"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/theater_dance/scott-rudin-broadway-producer-abuse-allegations/2021/04/17/f3d0ba88-9f0c-11eb-9d05-ae06f4529ece_story.html

 

[JennH]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 11:47am

Call_me_jorge said: "Clickable:https://twitter.com/OfficialMaggieL/status/1383129185955237891?s=19

Still seems fishy without a real source, but Rob Roth does seems like the kind of guy to saythis..."

While I've heard not great things about Roth, I'm not about to do what Trumpers do...fall for unverified information and the "believe me, I know this person" that's been going around with this supposed anonymous person. Do I think this potentially did happen? Likely, yes. Do I have a good few questions? Also yes. 

Updated On: 4/17/21 at 11:47 AM

[Luminaire2]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 12:32pm

While I am happy that something finally happened, and the reporter / abused who came forward should be proud of what they managed to accomplish, seeing as how Scott has taken no responsibility for these actions in the past.

However, a template apology is not enough. And I assume he will still make money off these shows, just without his name attached?

Sigh.

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 4/17/21 at 5:04pm

I was watching America’s most wanted and I swear I saw this guys mug shot. Is he wanted for something? Maybe he looks like someone else.

[MannPhan24601]

Posted: 4/18/21 at 10:09am

Caught Sutton on Instagram live. She apologized for not speaking out and is glad Rudin stepped down. Said her and Hugh want the show to have the safest environment possible....

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 4/18/21 at 4:56pm

When I read about the potato throwing I couldn’t help but think of some heavy drinking stressed out chefs when they get upset about customers returning food. I have known a few in my time. Seems like Rubin would be wise to sign up for some anger management therapy. Then finding ways to give back. Large donations to the Actor’s fund; things like that. If he has a partner I wonder how they put up with him. I think the situation might say something about the industry as a whole. Behavior like that in other environments would not be tolerated.

[Dolly80]

Posted: 4/18/21 at 5:11pm

I call it now- High Jackman will walk away from this show and it will not happen.

 

more stories of the abusive behaviour are going to come out and there’s no way Jackman will want to have any association with Rudin. Even if he does his pretend ‘stepping back’, it’s still his production, and he’ll profit from that.

 

this whole thing is too toxic now and Jackman is too decent a person to stay on. He doesn’t need it.

Updated On: 4/18/21 at 05:11 PM

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 4/18/21 at 6:02pm

Update via Deadline

https://deadline.com/2021/04/update-times-up-joins-actors-equity-scott-rudin-nondisclosure-agreements-1234737752/

[Dolly80]

Posted: 4/18/21 at 6:40pm

Interesting new quote from Olivio where she says that Hugh Jackman still taking this role now equates to him endorsing Rudins behaviour.

This isn’t gonna go away!

[HogansHero]

Posted: 4/18/21 at 8:04pm

Dolly80 said: "This isn’t gonna go away!"

good!

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 4/18/21 at 8:18pm

Dolly80 said: "Interesting new quote from Olivio where she says that Hugh Jackman still taking this role now equates to him endorsing Rudins behaviour.

This isn’t gonna go away!"


Where does she say this?

Jackman dropping out of the production now is basically denying employment to everyone involved with that production. He is THE reason why the show is happening. I think it would be far worse for the people involved if Jackman dropped out.

We will probably get to a point where Rudin refuses his stake in the production or directs it towards charities (and that is probably where Hugh comes into play as leverage); that doesn't stop some of his longtime enablers from profiting, but this is never going to be a perfect situation. And there are a lot of people with blood on their hands in this industry who don't even have an association with Rudin.

Updated On: 4/18/21 at 08:18 PM

[Anakela]

Posted: 4/18/21 at 8:21pm

(cw: suicide)

David Graham-Caso, brother of Rudin's former assistant Kevin Blake Graham-Caso. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 4/18/21 at 8:29pm

Wow, what a message.

RIP, sweet Kevin.