Scott Rudin takedown - Page 7

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 10:04am

unclevictor said: "I haven’t seen anything yet. Anyone else...
Has Rudin released a statement denying all accusations yet?
Has Hugh and Sutton released any sort of statement?"

No and no.

[JBroadway]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 10:07am

He can't deny it. There were witnesses and he knows it. He's just waiting for it to die down, which I hope it doesn't. For all the comments about how "the industry is being silent" and "public outcry won't bring him down" (and I don't totally disagree with either of those statements) it does seem like this time is different from the other times his behavior has been brought up. I imagine because this incident is the most clearly, demonstrably a case of illegal abuse, and can't be brushed aside as him being "demanding." 

[musikman]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 11:15am

https://twitter.com/apentertainment/status/1380529572853219338?s=21

Updated On: 4/9/21 at 11:15 AM

[Fosse76]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 11:28am

binau said: "The 6 shows a week (should be 7), 1-2 regular performances (only 1) and ‘few’ Tony Awards? (should be 2?). If this yes but these are details that I wouldn’t necessarily expect someone to be 100% on if they are not actually a theatre fan. Still, recognise it is just an anonymous comment that could be made up (or could also be true). It’s hard to ignore a pattern of apparent poor conduct though. "

I agree that lack of knowing the exact schedule of performances performed each week by the alternate did not discredit the source, as not everyone,  even someone's friends, followed it closely or cared that much (not to mention it was a few years ago). Also, a "few" can mean a s little as two. It's defined as not a large amount, but more than one. It can also be a way to vague it up.

So, assuming the source isn't making it up,  it doesn't appear to apply to any other actress beside Donna Murphy.

Updated On: 4/9/21 at 11:28 AM

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 11:30am

Sutton Foster isn;t big enough to take down Scott Rudin. Bette Midler is. Hugh Jackman is. I'd say maybe Patti Lupone is too. 

[Fosse76]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 11:33am

JBroadway said: "He can't deny it. There were witnesses and he knows it. He's just waiting for it to die down, which I hope it doesn't. For all the comments about how "the industry is being silent" and "public outcry won't bring him down" (and I don't totally disagree with either of those statements) it does seem like this time is different from the other times his behavior has been brought up. I imagine because this incident is the most clearly, demonstrably a case of illegal abuse, and can't be brushed aside as him being "demanding.""

I agree. He's following the Joss Whedon method, who is also unable to refute the claims because pretty much everyone who worked with him witnessed the behavior at some level and no one had come out in support. 

Hopefully some high profile stars will speak-up, because that's the only way this will really gain any traction.

[PianoMann]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 11:37am

Donna Murphy has been liking a lot of tweets about the article and criticisms of Rudin in the past few days, for what it's worth. If that story's true, it's absolutely horrible. All the more incredible that she delivered the performance in Dolly that she did, too.

[JBroadway]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 11:49am

musikman said: "


https://twitter.com/apentertainment/status/1380529572853219338?s=21"

 

Do we know for a fact that this interview wasn't recorded earlier? I actually don't know, as I'm not familiar with AP's news content. 

But either way, as I said in a recent thread about Leslie Odom Jr - expecting actors under contract to speak out against their employers during a promo interview is a game that only serves to set everyone up for disappoint. 

As PoisonIvy said, the only one from The Music Man who can realistically do it is Hugh, because he's big enough, and wealthy enough to weather any lawsuits Rudin might throw his way. 

[BroadwayBen]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 12:28pm

This just in....Not sure how solid Radar Online is as a source

 

https://radaronline.com/p/hugh-jackman-quitting-broadway-music-man-scott-rudin-abuse-allegations/

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 12:31pm

Radar is not reliable at all. That being said, Hugh tries to stay away from any controversy or drama. He knows this is bad for his brand. 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 12:33pm

I sure do hope he quits and ends the show and puts that enormous cast of actors out of a job after over a year already of being out of work.

[Kad]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 12:35pm

Jordan Catalano said: "I sure do hope he quits and ends the show and puts that enormous cast of actors out of a job after over a year already of being out of work."

And we wonder why nobody's effectively stood up to Rudin.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 12:36pm

What would you suggest the answer be, then? There is no simple answer, especially in our current situation.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 12:40pm

Honestly, Scott Rudin should be the one to exit.

[JBroadway]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 12:49pm

Call_me_jorge said: "Honestly, Scott Rudin should be the one to exit."

 

That's the best case scenario, but how would that work? I asked this in an earlier post, but I'll re-iterate it:

Rudin is the sole producer, so is it even possible to replace him? It's not like he has a board of directors who can fire and replace him. Saying Scott Rudin should step down as the producer for this specific revival of the Music Man is like saying Meredith Wilson should exit the writing team. Maybe the rights-holders can get involved? Maybe he can sell the Broadway revival rights to someone else? (unlikely) I just don't see what the protocol would be. But I hope I'm missing something.

[Huss417]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 12:56pm

JBroadway said: "Call_me_jorge said: "Honestly, Scott Rudin should be the one to exit."



That's the best case scenario, but how would that work? I asked this in an earlier post, but I'll re-iterate it:

Rudin is the sole producer, so is it even possible to replace him? It's not like he has a board of directors who can fire and replace him. Saying Scott Rudin should step down as the producer for thisspecific revival of the Music Man is like saying Meredith Wilson should exit the writing team. Maybe the rights-holders can get involved? Maybe he can sell the Broadway revival rights to someone else? (unlikely) I just don't see what the protocol would be. But I hope I'm missing something."

This past article on deadline lists  Scott Rudin, Barry Diller and David Geffen as producers. Has that changed?

https://deadline.com/2020/10/hugh-jackman-music-man-broadway-opening-date-rescheduled-coronavirus-shutdown-extension-1234594485/

 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 12:59pm

It would be just fine with me if Hugh leaves, he is the sole reason tickets are so unreasonable. 

[JBroadway]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 1:00pm

@Huss417

Huh, that's interesting - I was going off of IBDB 

https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-production/the-music-man-526102

Updated On: 4/9/21 at 01:00 PM

[BdwyFan]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 1:06pm

Right now he’s listed as the lead producer. Eventually this will be filled with a bunch of co producers.

[binau]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 1:10pm

Sutton Ross said: "It would be just fine with me if Hugh leaves, he is the sole reason tickets are so unreasonable."

You do realise he is also probably the sole reason tickets are on sale? If Hugh leaves there is a good chance the show go with him - investors aren’t putting up their money because they think the show title is carrying them to the bank! 
 

 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 1:14pm

Nope, many people are going for Sutton, whose star has risen since being on TV for the last 7 years. They can find another Harold Hill and people will still come to this show, it's a classic. 

[Kad]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 1:28pm

While I'm sure Music Man would sell regardless of who was in it, there is no denying that Jackman is the central selling point here. Sutton Foster is not even remotely a household name.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 1:31pm

The Dodgers should takeover the lead producer role for the show.
 

also playbill has finally caught wind of the story.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 1:33pm

Kad said: "While I'm sure Music Man would sell regardless of who was in it, there is no denying that Jackman is the central selling point here. Sutton Foster is not even remotely a household name."

Before Younger I would agree with you. But, the show is wildly popular so yes, she is a household name imo and a star on Broadway. 

Updated On: 4/9/21 at 01:33 PM

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 4/9/21 at 1:34pm

Kad said: "While I'm sure Music Man would sell regardless of who was in it, there is no denying that Jackman is the central selling point here. Sutton Foster is not even remotely a household name."

THIS.