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#27

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ColorTheHours048 said: "Fordham2015 said: "Sara Holdren compares it to Bake Off and Ms Rachel

https://www.vulture.com/article/theater-review-benjamin-button-musical-compton-public.html
"

Holdren rarely misses and she’s dead-on here.
"

This from her reviewresonated with me as I felt similarly:
"But wrap a play in too much homespun folksiness and the thing starts to feel both suffocating and, despite all the driving tunes and stomping choreography in the world, suffocated. At every turn, Benjamin Button passionately implores us to make sure we’re really living, yet the stage world Compton has built is too formulaic, too mechanically twee, to give us the sense of something truly alive."

But there's no denying its warm reception and emotional impact on many.

#28

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malcs98 said: "So these are relatively good reviews right?"

Yes. Essentially what I expected. Similar to ONCE, which got good reviews but not raves. But ONCE did win the Tony Award that year.


A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
#29

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I’m fascinated that so many decent reviews have come out of this - both from critics and word of mouth. I saw this in London and thought it was an absolute slog that tried playing cutesy with Cornish flavor. None of the music stood out and the story felt contrived - the critic isn’t wrong that he basically falls in love with the first woman he ever meets and becomes obsessed. Also, I think the mom has a screaming/screlting number about an octopus in the show?


Then again, I was thrilled by Real Woman Have Curves and saw it four times so clearly my artistic integrity isn’t on par with the rest of the theatre crowd lol

#32

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Ensemble1698878795 said:"Critics picks will actually have to be earned now, how refreshing."



Think again. Helen Shaw gave a critics pick to the Roundabout's "Imaginary Invalid". Her taste in theatre is truly questionable.

#34

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Dreamboy3 said: "Does the Times still carry weight? Certainly not as much as it used to. I was a life long New York Times reader and I recently cancelled my subscription because of several reasons including what I view as weak theater coverage (I don’t find Shaw’s reviews compelling.). And I know a not insignificant number of people who have done the same for various reasons."


Oh a NYT rave certainly doesn't guarantee financial success.

From a money-raising standpoint, a mixed/negative/indifferent review from the NYT can still turn off investors/co-producers who are on the fence, and a rave can help coax them towards writing a check.

From a Broadway ticket sales standpoint, there are now fewer paths to financial success for this show. (My tix aren't for a few more weeks so this is purely going off public perception.)

  • NYT and NYMag were mixed-negative; the Murdoch publications (NYPost and WSJ) were positive. Anecdotally, the audience response seems about as mixed as the reviews.
  • By March, Broadway will have two massive new musicals (PADDINGTON and WARRIORS), a buzzy revival (EVITA), and one of the most starry plays in years (SMALL MOUTH SOUNDS). I would not be surprised if those shows "suck the air out of the room." Something else could still win the Tony, though, if it's universally adored.
  • Some people have an odd hatred of the movie of BENJAMIN BUTTON, so it's not like this is a title that screams must-see/quality. (I'm a fan of the film and I know the show isn't based on the film, but they share a title and general premise!)
  • Does the entire onstage cast play an instrument? 11 actor-musicians + 4 swings is not tiny, since everyone gets paid through both AEA and 802.

What once might have been seen as the next ONCE or MAYBE HAPPY ENDING or KIMBERLY AKIMBO could now have a fate closer to AMELIE or BRIGHT STAR or DEAD OUTLAW -- or even SECRET LIFE OF BEES.

#35

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“It so clearly aims for enchantment and poignancy and then flattens its own efforts with desperate mugging. Mediocre jokes come back again and again and are weaker with every recurrence, zombies with limbs falling off. Compton stuffs his script with endless references to exact units of time — “it had been eight years, five months, and four days since Benjamin had last seen Elowen”; “at precisely 17 minutes past 8 p.m. on the 17th of December 1918 … a child was born”; “the Second World War would last another three hundred and thirty-seven days, one hour, thirty-six minutes, and twenty-four seconds.” This isn’t a clever motif, it’s a sledgehammer — one that’s pretending to be an embroidery needle.”

Once again, Sara Holdren is completely on point.

#36

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ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Dreamboy3 said: "Does the Times still carry weight? Certainly not as much as it used to. I was a life long New York Times reader and I recently cancelled my subscription because of several reasons including what I view as weak theater coverage (I don’t find Shaw’s reviews compelling.). And I know a not insignificant number of people who have done the same for various reasons."


Oh a NYT rave certainly doesn't guarantee financial success.

From a money-raising standpoint, amixed/negative/indifferent review from the NYT can still turn off investors/co-producers who are on the fence,and a rave can help coax them towards writing a check.

From a Broadway ticket sales standpoint, there are now fewer paths to financial success for this show.(My tix aren't for a few more weeks so this is purely going off public perception.)

  • NYT and NYMagwere mixed-negative; the Murdoch publications (NYPost and WSJ) were positive.Anecdotally, the audience response seems about as mixed as the reviews.
  • By March, Broadway will have two massive new musicals (PADDINGTON and WARRIORS), a buzzy revival (EVITA), and one of the most starry plays in years (SMALL MOUTH SOUNDS). I would not be surprised if those shows "suck the air out of the room." Something else could still win the Tony, though, if it's universally adored.
  • Some people have an odd hatred of the movie of BENJAMIN BUTTON, so it's not like this is a title that screams must-see/quality. (I'm a fan of the film and I know the show isn't based on the film, but they share a title and general premise!)
  • Does the entire onstage cast play an instrument? 11 actor-musicians + 4 swings is not tiny, since everyone gets paid through both AEA and 802.

What once might have been seen as the next ONCE or MAYBE HAPPY ENDING or KIMBERLY AKIMBO could now have a fate closer to AMELIE or BRIGHT STAR or DEAD OUTLAW -- or even SECRET LIFE OF BEES."

So do you think a broadway transfer is impossible?

#37

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I don't think a transfer is impossible! It just makes the producers' job of moving it trickier, and it makes the path to recoupment even more tricky. If enough deep-pocketed people believe in a show, and if a landlord believes in them, anything is possible...

#39

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ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "I don't think a transfer is impossible! It just makes the producers' job of moving it trickier, and it makes the path to recoupment even more tricky. If enough deep-pocketed people believe in a show, and if a landlord believes in them, anything is possible..."

It's transferring. It has a theater.

#40

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CoffeeBreak said: "ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "I don't think a transfer is impossible! It just makes the producers' job of moving it trickier, and it makes the path to recoupment even more tricky. If enough deep-pocketed people believe in a show, and if a landlord believes in them, anything is possible..."

It's transferring. It has a theater.
"

The only theatre available would be the Hudson since it as an ATG house and that seems unlikely as The Hudson doesn't do open ended runs.

#41

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goodtimes123 said: "CoffeeBreak said: "ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "I don't think a transfer is impossible! It just makes the producers' job of moving it trickier, and it makes the path to recoupment even more tricky. If enough deep-pocketed people believe in a show, and if a landlord believes in them, anything is possible..."

It's transferring. It has a theater.
"

The only theatre available would be the Hudson since it asan ATG house and that seems unlikely as The Hudson doesn't do open ended runs.
"

Don't be too surprised then ...

#42

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goodtimes123 said: The only theatre available would be the Hudson since it asan ATG house and that seems unlikely as The Hudson doesn't do open ended runs."

It could also take the August Wilson since Paranormal Activity closes 2/28

#43

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It's been extended again through December 20.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
#45

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And then a Broadway transfer, which is already penciled in before they started previews.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
#46

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I find this situation fascinating. An Olivier Award Best Musical getting completely dismissed by The New York Times (and a few others) but also some raves from some solid critics. If we were in the era of Frank Rich, the show would be dead. But in a social media age there might be enough to warrant a move...Still, this season is really stacked and getting the attention they need will be a challenge, and the narrative will be about the show succeeding against The Times, not the show itself. If you're a theater owner, why would you think this would be a hit, or even run? They could wait and do more work on the show, but it's one of those shows you either get it or you don't, so that would seem pointless. It's baked. So, what do you do?

#48

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#50

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Does it feel like this is on the Dead Outlaw train? Strong WOM and sales off-Broadway with quick ambitions to get to Broadway only to be outshone by other musicals? Maybe it’s just the fact that Andrew Durand is in them both and that is why I am connecting the two shows but I struggle to see how this could possibly have any chance when Paddington and Warriors are coming in.

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