Tim Hughes dragging Jordan Donica - Page 2

[CoffeeBreak]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 11:49am

No.  Just encounters with mutual friends.  It’s a known reputation.,

he’d have to like women to ‘turn me down’ that way.  

Updated On: 10/6/25 at 11:49 AM

[itsahopi]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 12:06pm

I would've aimed my critique at Sergio for not editing his choreography to better support his lead. Many of today's director/choreographers do not know how to direct their choreography. I find Casey guilty of this in the sense his inability to edit down his choreography in some settings undermines his abilities as a director. There is no need for Joe Hardy to dance so don't make him dance, or at least don't make him dance the same choreography as Lola and the ensemble. 

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 12:13pm

I would've aimed my critique at Sergio for not editing his choreography to better support his lead.

For the 2,365th time - the role of young (or old) Joe Hardy is NOT a dancing role! Lola and the ensemble (notably the baseball players) are the dancing roles in DAMN YANKEES. Heck, even in this production young Joe tells Lola he can’t dance and has “2 left feet off the baseball field.” Enough with this. Geez. 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 12:17pm

I think that was itsahopoi's point. No need to assign difficult moves unnecessarily.

Updated On: 10/6/25 at 12:17 PM

[Kad]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 12:20pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "I would've aimed my critique at Sergio for not editing his choreography to better support his lead.

For the 2,365th time - the role of young (or old) Joe Hardy is NOT a dancing role! Lola and the ensemble (notably the baseball players) are the dancing roles in DAMN YANKEES. Heck, even in this production young Joe tells Lola he can’t dance and has “2 left feet off the baseball field.” Enough with this. Geez."

Hughes' post is in response to a video of Donica dancing, titled "See Ana Villafañe and Jordan Donica Dance Up a Storm in 'Two Lost Souls' From Damn Yankees."  Geez. 

Updated On: 10/6/25 at 12:20 PM

[CoffeeBreak]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 1:02pm

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[The Distinctive Baritone]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 1:52pm

I remember reading an interview with Hughes when he was in Hadestown where he expressed a desire to get out of the ensemble and start doing more principal roles. I imagine that most actors who work primarily as ensemble members  feel this way. That said, people that get consistent work being in the ensemble and understudying principals generally are cast because dancing is what they are best at, and their acting and singing are "good" but not "great." Jordan Donica has a great voice. Timothy Hughes has a good voice. That's the difference.

And yes, this 100% comes across as an actor being bitter about his own career...a career that he, like so many others before him, has probably now ****ed up because of social media.

[blug]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 2:04pm

Aw. man.  I have a thing for guys named Tim.

Zip ya lip, dancing boy. 

Does no one just grab a couple of bottles of c****nay and dish it out with friends in their apartment anymore?

Updated On: 10/6/25 at 02:04 PM

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 2:07pm

This is embarrassing and I’m deeply disappointed in Tim. Joe Hardy is not a triple-threat role, and Jordan is demostrably excellent at what the role really needs - singing and acting.

Tim should've left that post to his "Close Friends" where it belongs.

[broadway86]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 2:14pm

Not a good look, at all. And also, I’ve never, ever, even once thought of Joe Hardy as a dancing role. Maybe things are a little different with this new production. 

[itsahopi]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 2:28pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "I BrodyFosse123 said: "I would've aimed my critique at Sergio for not editing his choreography to better support his lead.

For the 2,365th time - the role of young (or old) Joe Hardy is NOT a dancing role! Lola and the ensemble (notably the baseball players) are the dancing roles in DAMN YANKEES.”

Did you not read the part where I said “there is no need for Joe Hardy to dance.”

[witchoftheeast2]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 2:41pm

The Distinctive Baritone said: "I remember reading an interview with Hughes when he was in Hadestownwhere he expressed a desire to get out of the ensemble and start doing more principal roles. I imagine that most actors who work primarily as ensemble members feel this way. That said, people that get consistent work being in the ensemble and understudying principals generally are cast because dancing is what they are best at, and their acting and singing are "good" but not "great." Jordan Donica has a greatvoice. Timothy Hughes has a goodvoice. That's the difference.

And yes, this 100% comes across as an actor being bitter about his own career...a career that he, like so many others beforehim, has probably now ****ed up because of social media."

I see the last role he had was as a Hades understudy in Hadestown in its OBC. I wonder if he's bitter that he hasn't worked since leaving the show. 

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 2:53pm

itsahopi said: "BrodyFosse123 said: "I BrodyFosse123 said: "I would've aimed my critique at Sergio for not editing his choreography to better support his lead.

For the 2,365th time - the role of young (or old) Joe Hardy is NOT a dancing role! Lola and the ensemble (notably the baseball players) are the dancing roles in DAMN YANKEES.”

Did you not read the part where I said “there is no need for Joe Hardy to dance.”"


Ignore her. She drinks.

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 2:58pm

He has worked since Hadestown - he was in the Josh Groban Sweeney Todd  revival (as ensemble) and has done some regional stuff, but no, I don't think he has any other major acting jobs going on right now.

[Idiot]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 3:07pm

The Distinctive Baritone said: "I remember reading an interview with Hughes when he was in Hadestownwhere he expressed a desire to get out of the ensemble and start doing more principal roles. I imagine that most actors who work primarily as ensemble members feel this way. That said, people that get consistent work being in the ensemble and understudying principals generally are cast because dancing is what they are best at, and their acting and singing are "good" but not "great." Jordan Donica has a greatvoice. Timothy Hughes has a goodvoice. That's the difference.

And yes, this 100% comes across as an actor being bitter about his own career...a career that he, like so many others beforehim, has probably now ****ed up because of social media."

Exactly.  Scream "I should have been cast in this and many other leading roles!" without saying it..... and we should all kill our socials in self defense. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 3:09pm

broadway86 said: "Not a good look, at all. And also, I’ve never, ever, even once thought of Joe Hardy as a dancing role. Maybe things are a little different with this new production."

It's really not. Jordan is brilliant in this and everything else he has done. Timmy is jealous of his talent, and that he will never be a leading man. He never should have posted that, and I sincerely doubt this will help his career going forward. Bad look. 

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 3:19pm

"The Distinctive Baritone said: "And yes, this 100% comes across as an actor being bitter about his own career...a career that he, like so many others beforehim, has probably now ****ed up because of social media."

Idiot said: Exactly. Scream"I should have been cast in this and many other leading roles!" without saying it..... and we should all kill our socials in self defense."

 

Again, the character is Black in this version. You really think Hughes is jealous that a Black actor was cast as a Black character instead of him and thinks there was any way he would/could/should have been considered for it?

 

" this production, featuring a revised book by Doug Wright and Will Power and additional lyrics by Lynn Ahrens, updates the tale by swapping the 1950s (and their postwar buoyancy) for 2000 (and its pre-9/11 optimism). Our hero’s team has changed, too, with the Baltimore Orioles pinch-hitting for the Washington Senators. And Donica’s Joe Hardy has been reimagined as a Black character driven to live out the big league dream his father, a Negro Leagues standout, never could."

...

"In transporting the show forward in time, Wright and Power sought not just to open the door for color-blind or color-conscious casting but to entrench modern baseball’s diversity in the text. As they pondered the possibility of a Black actor playing Joe, the playwrights committed to reshaping the protagonist accordingly.

“To pretend that his experience would be the same as the White Joe in the original text would be disingenuous,” Wright says. “So I think it was an effort to substantiate the character as a Black American, and not just do a bit of creative casting.”

Power adds: “This idea particularly of the African American athlete within sports exploitation, being in the spotlight and public sphere, that was really interesting to me.”"

Updated On: 10/6/25 at 03:19 PM

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 3:23pm

For those who never saw the original Instagram Reel post, here’s ya goes:

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 3:35pm

That third graf is standard bitchy-queen-defending-their-profession. The fact that so many seem determined to read it as "he's just jealous he wasn't cast as the Black character" really is people telling on themselves.

[Idiot]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 3:52pm

MemorableUserName said: "
Again, the character is Blackin this version. You really think Hughes is jealous that a Black actor was cast as a Black character instead of him and thinksthere was any way he would/could/should have been considered for it?
 

I did not know this!  But I stand by that a frustration with his career is in the DNA of his ill advised post.  Both can be true. 

 

[coasterking500]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 4:10pm

I don’t have much to add here because I have not seen this production however this thread had me shook a little.
Most my association of the show is from the revival album so I was just so confused why Donica was involved at all because in my head Two Lost Souls is Lola and Applegate so this is a “I’m today years old” when I learned that was not the case with the original production! 

sorry long post but to the topic of thread  this is the danger of social media  these days. Maybe Mr Hughes was just in a bad mood. 

[Jumpin_J]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 9:03pm

I've seen the production and I think it's wonderful on so many levels. Jordan is terrific. His singing voice is booming and his dancing is more than adequate. Ana is so ridiculously fantastic. The singing, the dancing, the comedic timing. Sergio's choreography is wonderful with subtle Fosse nods. Doug Wright's updated book works so well. There's a good reason Washington Post raved about it. They're right. Go see it. 

[GiantsInTheSky2]

Posted: 10/6/25 at 9:25pm

CoffeeBreak said: "This is not a new thing for him to be rude and condescending to people in the business (while doing the opposite to their face). this one presented publicly. Regardless, he's waving the mean girl “true colors' flag out loud now which is wild"

He can be a real ****and his diva attitude is really off putting. I’m surprised he let the mask fall this publicly. 

[bwaylvsong1]

Posted: 10/7/25 at 9:09am

Different performers have different skill sets, even at the highest level. Hardy is not a role that requires a strong dancer.  I am a professional actor and singer.  I am not a professional dancer.  While I have had to “move” in shows, I would not even consider auditioning for a role that requires a strong dancer, because even after years of dance classes, it is just not something I have any natural ability for and I started too late to overcome that hurdle.  Hughes has to understand that Donica is also not trying to be a dancer and is just performing the choreography he was given to the best of his ability and as appropriate for a character who literally says he is not a dancer.  I’m just really surprised to see this, not because of Hughes’ perceived attitude, but because of the lack of understanding of his own industry.

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 10/7/25 at 12:09pm

AC126748 said: "Joe Hardy has always been a singing role first, dancing role second. Lola has always been the opposite. This seems like such a weird thing to create public beef over, especially as an attempt to earn some feminist cred. This reminds me of when Morgan James (remember her?) tweeted about how bad the singing was in the INTO THE WOODS park revival and the theater community essentially put her out on an ice floe."

Oh the Morgan James INTO THE WOODS tweet. What a time to be alive!