SUNSET BLVD. to transfer to Broadway- Page 4

[BETTY22]

Posted: 1/7/24 at 6:54pm

It is going to the Saint James theatre. 

Needs a square proscenium - which James her - not a letter box...

[TBFL]

Posted: 1/7/24 at 8:23pm

Not quite.

Dynamic pricing isn't discounting IMO, because the prices can go up as well as down,  it rarely went down beyond advertised price, and if they were, it was for a few single tickets. How is it a discount when tickets were selling for £295?

Okay, yes it was at TKTS, but again, single seats early in the run,

There was never a performance where the top 3 or 4 prices were reduced and not at weekends. If there were any, again, it was for a few single tickets only. If selling a few single tickets at a reduced price last minute means it isn't a sell out, then there hasn't been a show in history to be considered a sell out.

Seeing as you like to quote theatreboard, here is a link to all the posts that mention TKTS, that will confirm everything that I said: https://theatreboard.co.uk/thread/10677/sunset-boulevard-savoy-theatre-2023?page=2&q=TKTS

 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 1/7/24 at 8:58pm

I can’t image it’ll sell out the st James as I’m sure that balcony is going to feel so boring with nothing to look at but a black floor. But I’m sure it’ll be profitable. 

[Theatrefan2]

Posted: 1/8/24 at 2:37am

 

Sorry not true. Weekends were reduced sometimes during Oct and November , mid week a lot of the time. And it was more than single seats, and on some occasions the mid 100s tickets  dropped below £100.

Again I know this as I watched the charts closely, and had a friend group who did and used them and booked more than one seat on numerous occasions. 

If you don't think tkts and dynamic pricing are discounting then OK. Don't understand that logic at all. But the prices were one price, and they dropped either the night before or often around 10am the day of performance (and sometimes again early afternoon). Sometimes tkts had discounts the show website didn't, but usually they matched up.

Admitting there were discounted tickets doesn't take away from the quality of the show or the overall success of it.

[imeldasturn]

Posted: 1/8/24 at 4:34am

Please, you could get 80£ front stalls tickets on the day and TKTS for most of October and November. That's over 50% discount. It sold well and did good business, but it wasn't exactly Hamilton at the Public.

[FANtomFollies]

Posted: 1/8/24 at 8:27am

RippedMan said: "I can’t image it’ll sell out the st James as I’m sure that balcony is going to feel so boring with nothing to look at but a black floor. But I’m sure it’ll be profitable."

You don't think the screen will be visible in the balcony? Wasn't it mostly visible from the grand circle at Savoy? 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 1/8/24 at 8:29am

I'm not sure how deep the stage needs to be for this? So hopefully they take that into consideration? 

[jkcohen626]

Posted: 1/8/24 at 9:00am

FANtomFollies said: "RippedMan said: "I can’t image it’ll sell out the st James as I’m sure that balcony is going to feel so boring with nothing to look at but a black floor. But I’m sure it’ll be profitable."

You don't think the screen will be visible in the balcony? Wasn't it mostly visible from the grand circle at Savoy?"

Yeah, not sure where RippedMan got that idea from. Here's a photo from the very last row of the balcony and you can see most of the back wall. I can't imagine the back screen for this show would be any further back than New York, New York's backdrop here.

 https://aviewfrommyseat.com/photo/238253/st.+james+theatre/section-balcony+l/row-h/seat-15/ 

 

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 1/8/24 at 10:21am

Almost every show has discounts offered at some point during their run -- I think the bigger take away is that in the final month of the run, the show sold out, and tickets in London were selling for outrageous prices. True to that New York Post article, I know over a dozen people who flew over from the states in the final weeks to see it and their reactions were eccstatic. It's not how you start, it's where you finish. And Sunset in London went out on a very high note. There is currently a major buzz around the production that should help launch strong ticket sales in New York. I actually think there is far more buzz about this production than Cabaret.  It will not likely happen, but if they were soley looking at potential profit margins, ATG should consider pushing Cabaret to next season and let Sunset be their star attraction for the spring.

[Lot666]

Posted: 1/20/24 at 10:21am

In the original production of Sunset Boulevard, the final scene had Joe, dressed in a suit and carrying some personal effects, attempting to leave the house when Norman shot him. In the new Jamie Lloyd production, why is Joe in his underwear (or a swimsuit) when she kills him?

[Menken Fan]

Posted: 1/20/24 at 10:27am

Lot666 said: "In the original production of Sunset Boulevard, the final scene had Joe, dressed in a suit and carrying some personal effects, attempting to leave the house when Norman shot him. In the new Jamie Lloyd production, why is Joe in his underwear (or a swimsuit) when she kills him?"

My interpretation was that, when Joe decides to leave Norma for good, he starts stripping himself of the expensive clothes she has gotten him, and then gets shot.  It was one thing I think I understood in this production, which I really, really disliked.

[BETTY22]

Posted: 1/20/24 at 10:36am

The limited run so well in London but not great. 

UK critics were much more mixed than US outlets. 

St James is a big theatre.....

[SmokeyLady]

Posted: 1/20/24 at 4:15pm

BETTY22 said: "The limited run so well in London but not great.

UK critics were much more mixed than US outlets.

St James is a big theatre....."

I don’t know what you’re talking about .  This was an absolute smash hit beyond anything they were expecting.  And the reviews were great  It will do extremely well in its transfer .   First time in a while where people were coming into London just to see the show.

Updated On: 1/20/24 at 04:15 PM

[imeldasturn]

Posted: 1/20/24 at 4:47pm

SmokeyLady said: "BETTY22 said: "The limited run so well in London but not great.

UK critics were much more mixed than US outlets.

St James is a big theatre....."

I don’t know what you’re talking about . This was an absolute smash hit beyond anything they were expecting. And the reviews were great It will do extremely well in its transfer . First time in a while where people were coming into London just to see the show."

It did very very well, but "all the reviews were great" is true only if we count 3* from the Guardian or the Times as great reviews. I think it's accurate to say that American critics embraced it more, even if the London reception was not generally lukewarm 

[lopside]

Posted: 1/20/24 at 5:27pm

And the 3 from Observer and the pan from Variety..

[Penna2]

Posted: 1/21/24 at 6:18pm

Menken Fan said: "Lot666 said: "In the original production of Sunset Boulevard, the final scene had Joe, dressed in a suit and carrying some personal effects, attempting to leave the house when Norman shot him. In the new Jamie Lloyd production, why is Joe in his underwear (or a swimsuit) when she kills him?"

My interpretation was that, when Joe decides to leave Norma for good, he starts stripping himself of the expensive clothes she has gotten him, and then gets shot. It was one thing I think I understood in this production, which I really, really disliked."

In the film, the opening shot is of Joe floating face down in a swimming pool in a swim suit - could have been underwear. My take was the swimsuit was a throwback to that.

Updated On: 1/21/24 at 06:18 PM

[Lot666]

Posted: 1/22/24 at 8:38am

Penna2 said: "In the film, the opening shot is of Joe floating face down in a swimming pool in a swim suit - could have been underwear. My take was the swimsuit was a throwback to that."

So he's not attempting to leave the house when she kills him in this production?

[FANtomFollies]

Posted: 1/22/24 at 8:47am

Lot666 said: "Penna2 said: "In the film, the opening shot is of Joe floating face down in a swimming pool in a swim suit - could have been underwear. My take was the swimsuit was a throwback to that."

So he's not attempting to leave the house when she kills him in this production?"

As mentioned earliier, he's taking off the fancy clothes Norma bought for him in preparation to leave. She knows it means he's leaving and so does the audience. He's not literally walking away with suitcase though.

[TaffyDavenport]

Posted: 1/22/24 at 8:54am

Penna2 said: "Menken Fan said: "Lot666 said: "In the original production of Sunset Boulevard, the final scene had Joe, dressed in a suit and carrying some personal effects, attempting to leave the house when Norman shot him. In the new Jamie Lloyd production, why is Joe in his underwear (or a swimsuit) when she kills him?"

My interpretation was that, when Joe decides to leave Norma for good, he starts stripping himself of the expensive clothes she has gotten him, and then gets shot. It was one thing I think I understood in this production, which I really, really disliked."

In the film, the opening shot is of Joe floating face down in a swimming pool in a swim suit - could have been underwear. My take was the swimsuit was a throwback to that."



 

Updated On: 1/22/24 at 08:54 AM

[binau]

Posted: 1/22/24 at 9:13am

I agree that the dramatic purpose of him taking off his clothes is to signify he is about to leave her and giving back what she gave him (Norma knows this and starts freaking out asking him not to leave). The side effect entertainment purpose is that the audience audibly swoons every time it happens and you can hear groans of satisfaction from women and gay men. It’s very funny. And it is a classic example of what Michael R Jackson made fun of in the Pulitzer Prize winning A Strange Loop re; needing the leads to be ‘f able’ and that there shouldn’t be a ‘limp d’ or ‘dry p’ in the house. Jamie Lloyd - and I think it’s a theme running through this production - knows how to tread the fine line between dramatic story telling and giving the audience what they want. 

[jman16]

Posted: 1/24/24 at 9:57pm

Nicole has been announced as a headliner at a music festival in the UK this Summer.

https://henley-festival.co.uk/artist/nicole-scherzinger/

Her biog confirms it's going to the St James. 

"Due to the huge success of this show in London, Nicole has been asked to continue her role as Norma Desmond in Broadway in the fall 2024 at the iconic St James Theatre."

[Penna2]

Posted: 1/24/24 at 10:24pm

Lot666 said: "Penna2 said: "In the film, the opening shot is of Joe floating face down in a swimming pool in a swim suit - could have been underwear. My take was the swimsuit was a throwback to that."

So he's not attempting to leave the house when she kills him in this production?"

The show opens with him getting out of a body bag in his underwear/swimsuit, probably underwear, since there is a scene with him changing clothes in Act 1. Doubt he changed during intermission - the show is very stark in terms of costuming and everything else, except for the talent. The movie opens with him floating in a swimming pool. He could easily have been in his underwear. It makes sense that his leaving was shy she killed him. TBH, I have a boot of the show and have only watched the first act. Never watched the movie all the way through, couldn't stand Swanson. Just remember Joe floating in the pool face down. Never saw any other stage production (lack of interest), so I guess I should watch the rest of my video. (Having the time is the reason I haven't watched the whole thing, not the show itself - Nicole is simply brilliant.)

[WldKingdomHM]

Posted: 1/30/24 at 6:10pm

How about Mel C for Tuesday ?

Updated On: 1/30/24 at 06:10 PM

[TaffyDavenport]

Posted: 1/31/24 at 9:05pm

Lena Hall did a stitch with a Sweaty Oracle TikTok about the upcoming Cats revival, expressing her enthusiasm over radically reimagined revivals, and, in the comments section, she said she'd love to do the new Sunset. I haven't seen it yet, but it seems like she might be a good fit for the production, and, personally, I'd love to hear her sing the score.

[Broadway Flash]

Posted: 1/31/24 at 9:28pm

She’s not a star.