Actor injured in Spiderman tonight- Page 11

[jennafan]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:08pm

As I said before, it will take a child or audience member being hurt for this show to close.

I think at ANY job there is a risk for injury. Starlight express (as far as I know) didn't have people flying over the audience doing stunts.

There IS a difference. LIke it or not an innocent person will get hurt. If a rope snapped or a charcter fell, that could hurt several people in the audience. I would hate for it yo be a kid since I am sure a lot of kids want to see Spider-Man.

Things will only get worse. Hate to say it.

[sabrelady]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:13pm

If these"stunt" people are performers who have learned some skills for this show, then there is call for concern. All the stunt peformers I know (mostly film) start w minor stunts and work their way up to stuff like high falls and fire gags over a career. A bad stunt accident in Toronto( the performer died) happened mostly because he had never done the stunt before and didn't want to fess up least it cost him the gig.
Stunt performers are their own little community and most are total adrenaline junkies who feel part of their job is to keep pushing the envelope. (other wise CGI will take over their jobs)
But calculated risk is one thing and cables that snap is something else. My stunt guys often have their own rigs that they rent to a show and they feel it is their personal responsiblity to moniter and care for their equipment.
I don't have a Playbill- is a stunt co-ordinator listed in the credits? Frankly that's the person I wold hold more responsible for safety issues.
On a different note of the same song- 20 feet is a high fall my any definition, that he ONLY (sic) had broken ribs is a tribute to his physical state and ( I suspect) he tried to control & reduce the velocity of the fall whish is one of the things most good stunt people would try to do in those circumstances. I wish him a speedy and uncomplicated recovery.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:14pm

"If a rope snapped or a charcter fell, that could hurt several people in the audience."

What if Mary Poppins's rope snaps while she's flying out over the audience? What if the chandelier malfunctions in Phantom while it's flying over the audience? What if Peter Pan's rope snaps while that actor is flying over the audience?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:16pm

"As I said before, it will take a child or audience member being hurt for this show to close."

Really Jenna? Are you really singing the "Won't Somebody PLEASE Think of the Children Song"?

[jennafan]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:35pm

Well, doing stunts over an audience is a little different.

This show should be closed. It will take someone dying for that to happen though. Guess we just gotta accept the facts.

[Eris0303]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:43pm

Theatrical Insider 'Weighs-in' on SPIDER-MAN Controversy

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:47pm

This link at the end of the article is too funny.
https://newimages.broadwayworld.com/newbuybutton.png

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:53pm

"I think at ANY job there is a risk for injury. Starlight express (as far as I know) didn't have people flying over the audience doing stunts."

Nope just going at fast speeds on ramps etc, an actor can fall during a show like that or be dropped from a lift in a dance routine and get major injuries. A bump to the head is all its taken to kill some.

All accidents on stage are dangerous and upsetting, Spiderman is worse because everybody is making it worse with the constant reporting of every single detail of its preview period.

Also 2 actors were hurt during rehearsals (that has happened many times during a rehearsal period of many big shows that contain stunt work or large sets), 1 was hurt off stage and one has been hurt on stage. Whilst all these accidents are terrible people make it sound like that actors are falling from the sky at every performance....it's happened once. It also should be said that nobody knows what happened yet, it would appear it was a silly mistake that meant he was not attached properly to the wire, we don't know anything.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:07pm

"In this world, there's a kind of painful progress... for the actors. At least I think that's so."

- Julie Taymor

[shrekster224]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:07pm

Just since this thread is a lot to read through, do we know which double fell?

[Luisasabh]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:11pm

Shrekster:

It was Christopher Tierney according to what's out there...

[shrekster224]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:15pm

Thanks. Best wishes to Christopher for a good recovery!

[wonderwaiter]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:17pm

"Oh get up, you're not hurt."
-Julie Taymor

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:18pm

^ Legit LOL

[sundaymorning6am]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:26pm

From the Wall Street Journal article, "He was taken to Bellevue Hospital with minor injuries, police said."

Can we stop blowing his condition out of proportion? The injury sucks, yes, but let's not keep going around and saying he's in critical condition.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/21/AR2010122100752.html

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:31pm

10 bucks says the "Theatrical Insider" is Jennifer Cody. Variety of large scale productions, self-righteous reaction to movie-to-musicals that belong in theme parks, anonymity after that Tony debacle when she accused CZJ's cancer-stricken husband of buying her the Tony...

[leefowler]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:31pm

Well, he is in "serious" condition, with broken ribs and internal bleeding...

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:32pm

To be fair, the HR says a hospital spokesman called them "serious injuries," and the NYMag is reporting multiple broken ribs and internal bleeding.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/spider-man-performance-canceled-actor-64338

I guess we will all be back.

[Tag]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:38pm

I kept waiting to read that the 'Theatrical Insider' article was one of BWW's April Fool's jokes. But sadly it's not. Seriously BWW?

[purtynpynk]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:38pm

well, as they say in show business, the show must go on...right?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101221/ap_en_ot/us_spider_man_fall

[Fan2]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:39pm

Roger Friedman says the actor suffered "broken ribs and bleeding."


Injuries

[sundaymorning6am]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:44pm

I've broken ribs that have in turn punctured my lung before, and internal bleeding, too. Guess what the doctors can do for you?

Nothing. You lay in a bed for a long time until you get x-rayed and medical professionals say that you can move again without re-breaking the ribs. Then you keep on taking it easy for another few months.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:53pm

OMG! Julie Taymor has brainwashed OSHA and AEA!! She's more powerful than GOD!

[sundaymorning6am]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:55pm

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/146044-Actors-Equity-Says-Spider-Man-Injury-Was-Human-Error

It looked like human error from the first time I saw the video. It looked like the chord was attached to anything. I'd sure hate to be that crew member that forgot to do that right now.

So, let's all stop with 'these technical machine things are sooo dangerous for the actors!' No. Crew members just need to remember where they're supposed to be and what they're supposed to be doing.

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 12/21/10 at 5:05pm

I feel better hearing the results of the investigation and I do think it's a painful lesson that redundancies are needed. But at least we can (hopefully) stop with the pitchforks and torches at Julie Taymor's door.

It's been really painful to see all the pontificating over the last 15 hours based pretty much all on hearsay. Lest we forget, all the stunts and safety measures were signed off on before public performances started.