#26
Posted: 11/10/13 at 7:33pm
Sutton Ross and ModernMillie are the same person, right?
BIG FISH to Close on Broadway December 29, 2013 — Page 2
#27
Posted: 11/10/13 at 7:42pm
^ I was going to make the same comment in the Memphis thread. Of course they are.
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#28
Posted: 11/10/13 at 7:50pm
If Scandalous managed to get a cast album, this better!
My heart breaks reading this. This company deserves so much credit for the amazing show they're putting on every night.
My heart breaks reading this. This company deserves so much credit for the amazing show they're putting on every night.
#29
Posted: 11/10/13 at 7:54pm
Please, Norbert Butz is a name to people around here and other theater lovers. NOT a big draw outside of this esoteric circle.
Sorry sweetie.
Sorry sweetie.
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#30
Posted: 11/10/13 at 7:55pm
Not THE LAST SHIP. That is coming next season.
It will likely be ALLEGIANCE.
It will likely be ALLEGIANCE.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
#31
Posted: 11/10/13 at 7:59pm
As much as I enjoyed this show, I keep thinking to myself that it should of been so much better. It really had the potential to be a much better show.
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#32
Posted: 11/10/13 at 8:01pm
sad. any chance of this being released on DVD/blu-ray?
#33
Posted: 11/10/13 at 8:09pm
Yes, because the thunderous applause as soon as he walks out on stages makes him a huge nobody. Did you even attend Big Fish? Of course he sells tickets. Tons of people went to see Big Fish just for him. He is a star on Broadway and in New York. The huge draw was him, and he is not why this show closed. Sorry, sweetie.
If any of this were true, this would be the hottest ticket in town. But it's not. It's closing after just over 100 performances. "Thunderous applause" does not pay the rent or keep a show running. A "huge draw" is someone like Hugh Jackman, not Norbert Leo Butz, talented as he is.
If any of this were true, this would be the hottest ticket in town. But it's not. It's closing after just over 100 performances. "Thunderous applause" does not pay the rent or keep a show running. A "huge draw" is someone like Hugh Jackman, not Norbert Leo Butz, talented as he is.
#34
Posted: 11/10/13 at 8:10pm
I wonder if this will have any impact on Susan Stroman getting new musicals to Broadway. I remember that article on her and investors wanting to get involved with her name attatched to the project. I wonder how they feel now. Or is this all Lippa's fault?
#35
Posted: 11/10/13 at 8:28pm
All I want is a cast album. A recording wouldn't hurt either, but as long as they get an album I'll be content. I thought the show was decent, but nothing incredible. I would like to give the album a listen-to, though. I wonder if this show will get any life beyond broadway.
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#36
Posted: 11/10/13 at 8:40pm
This is too bad - I saw this in Chicago, and while visually stunning I could not recall any of the score. I think they made more tweaks than most - but the movie name was never a big draw anyway, and then the reviews were just OK. (not to open a can of worms, but Kinky Boots made minimal changes after Chicago and it did just fine - with a fun score). Bigger and better things to all involved.
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#37
Posted: 11/10/13 at 8:44pm
The same person? I wasn't aware we were. I am a boy, she is a girl. However, I know her in real life, we are of similar age, and we are pretty close buddies on here, private messaging and stuff. People have each others backs on here quite often, it just seems natural.
To wrap this up on my end, NLB is a legend, and a draw to many. This show will be missed.
To wrap this up on my end, NLB is a legend, and a draw to many. This show will be missed.
#38
Posted: 11/10/13 at 8:54pm
Sad..but not totally unexpected. I am less fussy about my Broadway shows that some and I enjoy just about everything for one reason or the other. I have been known to see shows numerous times even if I didn't love them because I enjoyed some aspects of the shows that I was interested to re-visit.
But I really didn't enjoy much of Big Fish and really had no itch to see it again. I don't think the music helped but there was a lot more that was the problem. And for the performance I saw, most of the people who were chatting near me didn't like it that much either. I was not as impressed by Norbert as I had been in some of his previous shows but I thought Bobby S was amazing.
Regardless, I feel sorry for any show that closes. All that work...
But I really didn't enjoy much of Big Fish and really had no itch to see it again. I don't think the music helped but there was a lot more that was the problem. And for the performance I saw, most of the people who were chatting near me didn't like it that much either. I was not as impressed by Norbert as I had been in some of his previous shows but I thought Bobby S was amazing.
Regardless, I feel sorry for any show that closes. All that work...
#39
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:00pm
Question for those more knowledgeable about the show biz than I: what advantage (if any) is there in announcing the closing weeks in advance, as opposed to forging on bravely and making the announcement closer to December 29?
#40
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:01pm
Stroman has had both her hits and misses, just like most directors and choreographers. This isn't her first show to do less business than expected, and it won't be her last.
#41
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:02pm
madlibrarian - they may hope this gives people more incentive to see the show while they can. And/or there may be another show going in that would like to announce that soon.
#42
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:05pm
Aha. Has a show ever rescinded a closing notice because business picked up greatly? Not argumentative; just curious.
#43
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:11pm
I really enjoyed this show. The cast was fantastic!
#44
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:15pm
I've yet to see the show but if he's as good in this role as Rob McClure was in Chaplin, he'll definitely get a nod in it. I can't think of too many other shows that have/will have a strong male lead to beat him out of a nomination.
#45
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:17pm
"NLB is a legend, and a draw to many. This show will be missed."
Look, I like Butz, and he is a talented performer, but a "legend?" Most certainly not. He may be at some point, but not right now.
Look, I like Butz, and he is a talented performer, but a "legend?" Most certainly not. He may be at some point, but not right now.
#46
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:21pm
He isn't as good as Rob McClure in CHAPLIN was. Butz always will deserve consideration come Awards season, but five good performances in the spring could easily move him from the ballot. McClure demanded recognition, and people kept mentioning him well past the show's closing. I won't say Butz won't get nominated, but I'd never say he'll "definitely" get one.
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#47
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:25pm
"Aha. Has a show ever rescinded a closing notice because business picked up greatly? Not argumentative; just curious."
All the Way Home.
All the Way Home.
#48
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:32pm
Haha Cap'n, so wrong you are.
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#49
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:43pm
So LAST SHIP did cancel their pre-Broadway engagment, then?
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
#50
Posted: 11/10/13 at 9:50pm
Norbert Leo Butz can be considered a "legend" IN YOUR OPINION or, more aptly, in the fantasy world inside your head. But put up against mainstream standards, he is certainly not a "legend" in the entertainment industry. Or theatre world for that matter. Sorry...
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