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Beyoncé at DEH?

ebizzle
#25Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 1:48pm

If you scroll far enough back through her Instagram you can see pictures of them kissing 

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#26Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 1:59pm

ebizzle said: "If you scroll far enough back through her Instagram you can see pictures of them kissing"

Yeah, and there's also a picture of them as Will & Grace. In my opinion, he's hardly in the closet.

Updated On: 9/15/17 at 01:59 PM

Margo319
#27Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:09pm

He isn't DATING Beanie.  They've been best friends since childhood.  Like, are you serious?

"Your dad is a big-time producer, it's no mystery how you got here."

Here's the thing.  Daddy isn't with him when he steps on stage.  Daddy didn't give the performance of a lifetime.  Daddy doesn't put everything he has on that stage every night.  Daddy didn't teach him how to sing and act beautifully.  Ben got the part, all on own.  And, he is perfect in it.

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broadwaynerdnewbie
#28Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:13pm

Ben and Beanie aren't dating they've just been really close friends for a really long time? I think both are close with the others family...men and women can be friends you know! Just friends.

10086sunset
#29Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:15pm

There is zero reason for any speculating on his sexuality. 

Margo319
#30Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:23pm

"Ben and Beanie aren't dating they've just been really close friends for a really long time? I think both are close with the others family...men and women can be friends you know! Just friends."

Exactly.  In every interview, and every social media posting with both of them, they have always gushed about each other being best friends.  It's not a scandal to date people, so if they were doing that, they'd probably just tell people.  But, their interviews with many publications seem pretty truthful.  

Updated On: 9/15/17 at 02:23 PM

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raddersons
#31Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:26pm

Margo319 said: "Daddy isn't with him when he steps on stage. Daddy didn't give the performance of a lifetime. Daddy doesn't put everything he has on that stage every night. Daddy didn't teach himhow to sing and act beautifully. Ben got the part, all on own. And, he is perfect in it."

He gave a great performance -- a deservedly tony winning performance. But you can't tell me that when your dad is the lead producer of a show starring you, that he didn't help you get there.

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#32Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:29pm

Ben didn't get where he is because of his father.  He got where he is because he's a great singer/actor who worked hard and got what he deserved.  His father didn't even produce DEH.  Honestly, Platt's probably one of the most likable and non-problematic Broadway stars out there, so stop trying to act like he murders puppies on the weekend or has a face tattoo of a swastika.

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#33Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:30pm

He gave a great performance -- a deservedly tony winning performance. But you can't tell me that when your dad is the lead producer of a show starring you, that he didn't help you get there.

 If you were actually intelligent, you would know that Marc Platt is not involved with Dear Evan Hansen. 

 

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Miles2Go2
#34Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:40pm

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 Executive Producer: Wendy Orshan and Jeffrey M. Wilson


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Updated On: 9/15/17 at 02:40 PM

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#35Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:43pm

raddersons said: "Margo319 said: "Daddy isn't with him when he steps on stage. Daddy didn't give the performance of a lifetime. Daddy doesn't put everything he has on that stage every night. Daddy didn't teach himhow to sing and act beautifully. Ben got the part, all on own. And, he is perfect in it."

He gave a great performance -- a deservedly tony winning performance. But you can't tell me that when your dad is the lead producer ofa show starring you, that he didn't help you get there.
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pretty sure his father isn't the producer of DEH


"Contentment, it seems, simply happens. It appears accompanied by no bravos and no tears."
Updated On: 9/15/17 at 02:43 PM

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raddersons
#36Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:50pm

Check that out. Well, I was wrong. Sorry about the confusion. However, my sentiment still stands: Having parents in this business gets you known, gets you buzz, and gets you parts. It doesn't win you tony awards, but to act as if "This is all just happening to me!" is insincere.

Also, I'd again like to point out that I know this is irrational, but someone asked why people don't like Platt, and I gave them a reason.

Updated On: 9/15/17 at 02:50 PM

Nycat63
#37Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:55pm

oh no not this argument again.  This got really ugly last time around...

I think we can all agree that connections and family wealth (assuming the family continues to support the kid financially) is helpful when it comes to breaking into the entertainment business.  I don't think anyone other than the most defensive among that group of people would disagree with this, and even Ben has alluded to it.  Of course it helps - you have easy access to decision makers in the industry, as well as the means to go out and try to live your theater dreams.  Kids without those backgrounds will have a much harder time, no question. 

HOWEVER, as to whether or not that is a reason one particular actor "makes it," wins awards, etc. has to be taken on a case by case basis.  Ben has immense talent, a fantastic voice, tremendous discipline, and his acting ability - at least in a role like Evan - is, at least in my opinion, unquestionable and hard to top.  He earned that the old fashioned way.  While he initially had advantages that many others don't, I don't think we can lump him in the category of actors who only made it because of rich or connected parents.  

You are free to have more admiration for people who made it after sleeping in their cars and working 3 awful jobs for 5 years to get there, but it does not in any way detract from whether or not those who didn't have to do so have real talent and did work hard at their craft to get to the same place.  

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dramamama611
#38Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 2:57pm

For every superstar child, I'm sure there are 10 or 20 that don't get there.  It's not an automatic thing.

That being said, it's also not his fault if doors open a little easier to get seen.  He can't help who is father is, or what he does for a living.   I think the only way to throw this kind of thing in someone's face is if they get the work and don't do the job.  


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

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poisonivy2
#39Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 6:45pm

Ben has earned his plaudits. I've seen a video of his Elder Cunningham and it was fantastic. Funny, neurotic, insecure, very different from Josh Gad's goofball but equally valid. And DEH he plays an extremely difficult, demanding role and whatever you think of DEH I think the regard for HIS performance is almost unanimous.

Having a family connection gets you in the door but it doesn't do much more than that. A good example is the Gyllenhaals. Maggie and Jake's dad is a director and mom a screenwriter. Maggie got opportunities when she was young as did Jake. However Jake has proven his versatility as a stage and screen actor while the less talented Maggie's opportunities have dried up.

Margo319
#40Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 6:54pm

Yeah, her career has really "dried up".  She's on one of the hottest shows right now and is killing it.  Don't write about things you know nothing about. 

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0350454/

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#41Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 6:55pm

Lol Maggie G's doing just fine for herself, but yeah I know what you're saying.

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#42Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 6:56pm

poisonivy2 said: "...while the less talented Maggie's opportunities have dried up."


She's currently the co-lead in a very buzzy HBO series, has an Oscar nomination and has worked consistently since the early 2000s. She's not the movie star Jake is, but she's hardly begging for scraps. 

 

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poisonivy2
#43Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 6:58pm

Maggie just isn't as talented as Jake. Jake can do serious films, theater, anything. He can sing, he can act. After Secretary there wasn't anything Maggie did that I liked. 

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binau
#44Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 7:35pm

In our shallow world I can't help but wonder if Maggie is being held back by her looks (or lackthereof). She isn't ugly but by Hollywood standards she isn't a beauty. And that's tough - people always talk about discrimination based on race but for some reason we don't care about the potentially even more significant variables: beauty and age - particularly if you're a woman. 


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

JSquared2
#45Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 7:49pm

poisonivy2 said: "Maggie just isn't as talented as Jake. Jake can do serious films, theater, anything. He can sing, he can act. After Secretary there wasn't anything Maggie did that I liked."

 

You are being ridiculous. 

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#46Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 7:53pm

While I do love a cup of tea, this tea seems a bit...bitter Beyoncé at DEH?

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Miles2Go2
#47Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 7:54pm

I'm fairly new to BWW, but I find if you let most of these threads run long enough they devolve into ridiculousness with no relationship to the intent of the original thread. frown

Sunny11
#48Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 8:19pm

Maggie was in the dark knight which made over a billion worldwide. Jake has had a good run recently but is still mainly an Indie movie darling, his attempt to headline a blockbuster franchise, Prince of Persia, didn't work out.

 Both has one academy award nomination each. 

 Don't think that the two are that far apart. 

Sunny11
#49Beyoncé at DEH?
Posted: 9/15/17 at 8:38pm

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Updated On: 9/16/17 at 08:38 PM


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