COVID Cancellations- Page 16

[adotburr]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:07pm

Tag said: "Clearly a vaccine requirement isn't working as well as we hoped, as we see with all these breakthrough cases in fully vaccinated companies. If there are so many cases within cast & crews, just think about how many audience members have COVID and are sitting beside you. A scary prospect that I think a lot of theater-goers will be thinking about when more mainstream news coverage starts."

This. Thankfully I took the remote position when it was offered so I’m not in my germ infested office, but I’ve heard we have attorneys and support staff coming in testing positive that same morning and not getting sent home*. The only requirement is to get vaccinated or weekly testing. That’s it. Covid is having so much fun going through my office right now so the required vaccines or testing isn’t working. I’m actually shocked my office hasn’t shut down again. 
 

*Only one person has been sent home and it was for the best. He’s medically cleared to work but is continuing treatments for Leukemia. Truthfully, he shouldn’t be there or going to court with how rampant covid is right now. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:07pm

These minor infections aren't the point, people can deal with a sore throat. It's that the cancellation of these shows in December (peak tourist season) is not sustainable and will scare people off in not coming again. Can you imagine spending money on a flight and hotel room in December in NYC ($$$) and having the majority of your shows be canceled? 

It's a financial thing, not a health thing, at this point. 

[JGPR2]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:09pm

"I just landed at LGA, so if this meeting ends up cancelling all shows for a certain period it’s gonna make for a sad weekend"

I really feel bad for people like yourself who are traveling from out of state to see a few shows and they get canceled. Sure, you can get your ticket refunded but you spent a bunch of money traveling and for a hotel and that can't be refunded. Crossing my fingers the shows you have tickets for are not canceled.

[schubox]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:17pm

JGPR2 said: ""I just landed at LGA, so if this meeting ends up cancelling all shows for a certain period it’s gonna make for a sad weekend"

I really feel bad for people like yourself who are traveling from out of state to see a few shows and they get canceled. Sure, you can get your ticket refunded but you spent a bunch of money traveling and for a hotel and that can't be refunded. Crossing my fingers the shows you have tickets for are not canceled."

Thanks. I planned all this back in June. Had it been more recent I wouldn’t have with all we know now. I’ve dealt with cancellations before (was here when the blackout happened a few years ago). Honestly I just really hope I get to see Assassins. I’ve had tickets since it was originally announced and it’s the main reason I made this trip. I’ll be bummed if the others cancel but that’s the one that will really hurt 

[itsjustmejonhotmailcom]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:18pm

Fosse76 said: "There seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding regarding the testing requirements. ALL Broadway employees are required to be testedat leasttwice per week. Some shows are requiring more. Some theaters allow the rapid test (of which there are two types) and some require the 24h lab pcr."

Shows have been testing three times a week minimum for a while now. The number of tests required per week is dictated by the positivity rate.

[pmensky]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:22pm

Would love to be a fly on the wall in that producers meeting this afternoon. I’m guessing they’re going to either try to amend their policies regarding Covid or commit to a pause until around January 2.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:35pm

Don't see a pause happening now during prime holiday season. If anything, it'll happen right after New Years.

[pmensky]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:40pm

ACL2006 said: "Don't see a pause happening now during prime holiday season. If anything, it'll happen right after New Years."

You say this as if a large number of sold tickets somehow wards off Covid.

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:41pm

ACL2006 said: "Don't see a pause happening now during prime holiday season. If anything, it'll happen right after New Years."

Exactly. If a pause has to happen - and I really doubt that'll be the case - they're gonna ride out the holidays, there's simply too much at stake to pause now, not only for them, but for the city's economy.

If I had my way, I'd take some of these empty hotels, rent them and quarantine everybody for the next two weeks.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:47pm

I think they will enact stricter protocols and have a wait and see approach as they've been doing. But, letting people in the theater only to have them ushered out after 10 minutes is ridiculous and cannot happen again. 

So, cast and crew need to be tested not RIGHT before a show and at another location. Ideally, anyway. 

[buttonsandsnaps]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:48pm

If I had my way, I'd take some of these empty hotels, rent them and quarantine everybody for the next two weeks."

I can speak as someone who was in one of the “bubbles” during shutdown- this won’t happen. It’s Christmas. Try and tell the entire cast, crew, FOH, and support that they can’t spend their already limited holiday time with their families. There would be a riot. 
 

plus, it’s nuts expensive. It would be cheaper to take the loss. 

[pmensky]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:50pm

everythingtaboo said: 
If I had my way, I'd take some of these empty hotels, rent them and quarantine everybody for the next two weeks."

Yes, nothing says, “Merry Christmas” like forced captivity. Have the police searched your freezer recently?

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:50pm

Fosse76 said: "There seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding regarding the testing requirements. ALL Broadway employees are required to be testedat leasttwice per week. Some shows are requiring more. Some theaters allow the rapid test (of which there are two types) and some require the 24h lab pcr."

itsjustmejon said: "Shows have been testing three times a week minimum for a while now. The number of tests required per week is dictated by the positivity rate".

That is not true of all shows

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 1:54pm

everythingtaboo said: "ACL2006 said: "Don't see a pause happening now during prime holiday season. If anything, it'll happen right after New Years."

Exactly. If a pause has to happen - and I really doubt that'll be the case - they're gonna ride out the holidays, there's simply too much at stake to pause now, not only for them, but for the city's economy.

If I had my way, I'd take some of these empty hotels, rent them and quarantine everybody for the next two weeks."

If you had your way? These are human beings who have lives outside of the theatre. Get over yourself. They don’t live to serve you.

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 2:06pm

everythingtaboo said: "ACL2006 said: "Don't see a pause happening now during prime holiday season. If anything, it'll happen right after New Years."

Exactly. If a pause has to happen - and I really doubt that'll be the case - they're gonna ride out the holidays, there's simply too much at stake to pause now, not only for them, but for the city's economy.


If I had my way, I'd take some of these empty hotels, rent them and quarantine everybody for the next two weeks."

These actors do not serve you in any shape or form! They have lives outside the theatre. You realize how selfish and foolish you sound right now? 

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 2:09pm

iluvtheatertrash said: "If you had your way? These are human beings who have lives outside of the theatre. Get over yourself. They don’t live to serve you."

Okay relax, it's just a colloquialism. 

[JasonC3]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 2:19pm

pmensky said: "ACL2006 said: "Don't see a pause happening now during prime holiday season. If anything, it'll happen right after New Years."

You say this as if a large number of sold tickets somehow wards off Covid."

You say this like producers aren't going to try and maximize whatever revenues they can and deal with intermittent cancellations if they have to during peak tourist season.

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 2:31pm

everythingtaboo said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "If you had your way? These are human beings who have lives outside of the theatre. Get over yourself. They don’t live to serve you."

Okay relax, it's just a colloquialism."

I am relaxed. Not sure you know what colloquialism means, and regardless of whether you were kidding, it was a ridiculous thing to say.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 2:44pm

TINA is apparently back on tonight.

[blaxx]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 2:44pm

everythingtaboo said: "ACL2006 said: "Don't see a pause happening now during prime holiday season. If anything, it'll happen right after New Years."

Exactly. If a pause has to happen - and I really doubt that'll be the case - they're gonna ride out the holidays, there's simply too much at stake to pause now, not only for them, but for the city's economy.

If I had my way, I'd take some of these empty hotels, rent them and quarantine everybody for the next two weeks."

Or tie them all up in your basement, for extra dramatism.

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 2:46pm

everythingtaboo said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "If you had your way? These are human beings who have lives outside of the theatre. Get over yourself. They don’t live to serve you."

Okay relax, it's just a colloquialism."

 

Yeah, no need to get bent out of shape over that. Have used that term for years.

But to that comment, unfortunately we are at a place where not even that would work. We know that even vaccinated we can contract and pass the virus on. So once out of quarantine people become susceptible again. My thought is, at this point, that since vaccinated and boosted people aren't getting really sick or dying in mass number, shut shows down, including tours, for a day before their dark day and days between touring cities and get everyone boosted. Give them the dark day for any side affects and open back up on the third day, if possible. (Yes, money will be lost but this is public health) Granted, the boosters don't work that fast but at least you can get everyone with a production taken care of in one day. Unfortunately, there will still be positive tests but at least everyone will be up to date on vaccines. It seems this is the direction things are going according to St. Martin's comments on the news the other day.

Until this should hopefully burn itself out or not mutate again, we are going to be living with it for a while. It is now pretty much an endemic like the winter flu but only year round and deadlier. So get everyone protected. Of course things can change on a dime, as we have seen with this, but I think we may be seeing a time that when the CDC feels enough people are vaccinated and no new dangerous strains arise, they will allow masks to come off again and it will be treated as a cold or flu until it hopefully burns itself out in a few years. Or not. We already have a treatment to help stop it if caught in time, we could possibly have things like we buy over the counter for colds and flu in the future for Covid including a yearly vaccine. But who knows. We never expected to be where we are now. Just my thoughts.

 

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 2:52pm

uncageg said: "everythingtaboo said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "If you had your way? These are human beings who have lives outside of the theatre. Get over yourself. They don’t live to serve you."

Okay relax, it's just a colloquialism."



Yeah, no need to get bent out of shape over that. Have used that term for years.

But to that comment, unfortunately we are at a place where not even that would work. We know that even vaccinated we can contract and pass the virus on. So once out of quarantine people become susceptible again. My thought is, at this point, that since vaccinated and boosted people aren't getting really sick or dying in mass number, shut shows down, including tours, for a day before their dark day and days between touring cities and get everyone boosted. Give them the dark day for any side affects and open back up on the third day, if possible. (Yes, money will be lost but this is public health) Granted, the boosters don't work that fast but at least you can get everyone with a production taken care of in one day. Unfortunately, there will still be positive tests but at least everyone will be up to date on vaccines. It seems this is the direction things are going according to St. Martin's comments on the news the other day.

Until this should hopefully burn itself out or not mutate again, we are going to be living with it for a while. It is now pretty much an endemic like the winter flu but only year round and deadlier. So get everyone protected. Of course things can change on a dime, as we have seen with this, but I think we may be seeing a time that when the CDC feels enough people are vaccinated and no new dangerous strains arise, they will allow masks to come off again and it will be treated as a cold or flu until it hopefully burns itself out in a few years. Or not. We already have a treatment to help stop it if caught in time, we could possibly have things like we buy over the counter for colds and flu in the future for Covid including a yearly vaccine. But who knows. We never expected to be where we are now. Just my thoughts.

 

 

It wasn't "if I had my way" that bothered me, but the entire, tone-deaf, selfish suggestion. 

[bisous3]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 2:57pm

"It wasn't "if I had my way" that bothered me, but the entire, tone-deaf, selfish suggestion."

Unless they're going to do the bubble the way the NBA did and pay them as much as those players make!

 

[the.hard.part]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 3:27pm

MJ is cancelled through the 26th per their social media.

[Robbie2]

Posted: 12/17/21 at 3:27pm

Dolly80 said: "The cast only get tested JUST BEFORE the show when they arrive at the theatres? That is insane!


In the Uk they have to test first thing in the morning at home and call it in by 11am.

what happened last night at Moulin Rouge! Will be the last nail in the coffin for audience confidence if another testing scheme isn’t worked out there. Everything right now is pointing towards a full theatre shut down, it’s almost certainly going to happen in London. Bookings are being cancelled at alarming rates and no one wants to sit in a packed theatre with this new variant spreading like wildfire.



I bet The Music Man are very very nervous indeed, (And every show quite frankly)"

 

I spoke with my agent friend with a lot of actors in Broadway shows and producers-agents are freaking out with what's happening with the covid outbreak on Broadway. He also stated the producers of The Music Man are very very nervous with previews starting on Monday. They have the largest cast-staff on Broadway and the last thing they want to do is to have to cancel any previews starting next week!!!