Corden leaving Late Late Show; could FORUM revival still happen?- Page 2

[raddersons]

Posted: 4/29/22 at 10:25am

JSquared2 said: "Josh Gad would be a much better fit —bothartistically and financially."

I will never forgive the writers of the Tony Awards like 4-5 years ago... he fake announced he was going to play Pseudolus and everyone cheered and it was all a joke. Everyone in the room I was with just kept saying "Wait he would be perfect"

[hewhoshallnotbenamed2]

Posted: 4/29/22 at 11:17am

JSquared2 said: "Josh Gad would be a much better fit —bothartistically and financially."

Why do you think he'd be cheaper financially? I feel like he would be an equal or possibly even a higher paid name.

[JSquared2]

Posted: 4/29/22 at 1:51pm

hewhoshallnotbenamed2 said: "JSquared2 said: "Josh Gad would be a much better fit —bothartistically and financially."

Why do you think he'd be cheaper financially? I feel like he would be an equal or possibly even a higher paid name."

 

Financially as in he would sell more tickets.

 

[White_Lotus]

Posted: 4/29/22 at 1:58pm

Add me to the list of people perplexed at the vitriol for James Corden.

 

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 4/29/22 at 2:50pm

I think it's simply down to overexposure. Especially on the movie side, he didn't need to be in almost every movie musical of the last few years - actually, almost every movie musical that flopped critically, if not commercially. It just made him a poison pill, and we all knew with each casting how it was going to go. 

Listen, he is talented, and I think with a suitable amount of time away and some smart choices - assuming he can learn to say no at some point - he will be welcomed back, as Anne has been.

That said, I wonder if he should stay away from theatre for awhile. When the main focus of your overexposure is musical theatre-related, the smart thing would be to back to regular comedy.

[StardustsChild]

Posted: 4/29/22 at 4:32pm

JBroadway said: " being a widely beloved actor usually means more for ticket sales than being a widely known actor."

This is truly the crux of the matter.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 4/29/22 at 4:36pm

I think all the online hate is just people listening to the loudest voice in the room. He would sell tickets on Broaway/West End for sure. 

[Kad]

Posted: 4/29/22 at 5:03pm

People can dislike a celebrity or find them annoying without it being due to jealousy or some other attempt at armchair psychology. It doesn’t even need to be rational, for ****’s sake. We all like or dislike things based on the flimsiest or slightest of reasons. It’s human nature.

But a lot of people are put off of Corden as a public figure. For me, he’s been overexposed and it feels like he’s been pushed on us and pushing himself on us- an instant turnoff for me. He’s not at all untalented. 

And it seems very unlikely that a revival announced a decade ago and never, as far as we know, went much further than an announcement will be exhumed for Corden’s Broadway return. 
 

[JasonC3]

Posted: 4/29/22 at 9:31pm

Corden is a lot ... as a person and a performer.  Overexpose that and it is natural some people would not respon d well.

[gypsy101]

Posted: 4/30/22 at 1:31am

John Adams said: "After reading the criticisms of Corden in this thread, I'm thoroughly convinced that absolutely *NO ONE* truly dislikes him. It seems nobody can say anything bad about him without immediately making amends for their own ill-thinking by following up with praise for his work.

i truly dislike him. from reports by many in television and film he is a horror to work with and interact with non professionally and he even tried to have the writers wages decreased a few years ago. he had a few good roles about a decade ago. he has done nothing relevant in a very long time and his schtick is tired. he can safely retire for all i care.

oh and it’s not impossible to dislike someone in general but also appreciate someone’s [limited] talent

[UncleCharlie]

Posted: 4/30/22 at 5:52am

There is more than enough anecdotal evidence from numerous people who have attended tapings of the show as audience members over the past 7 or 8 years and shared their experiences on Yelp and on social media that the gregarious, outgoing personality you see on air shuts off immediately once the cameras are off and he appears to be taciturn and distant. It's this inconsistency in behavior that has caused people to peg his on air personality as an act and him as a phony. I suspect the behind the scenes comments about his personality and how he treats people probably have some merit. For those of you don't get why people are badmouthing him. That's at least part of it.

[David10086]

Posted: 4/30/22 at 9:03am

I think Corden will go the way of Sharon Osborne and Piers Morgan - back to oblivion, as far as America goes.  The three of them have overstayed their welcome, no matter how hard their agents have tried to shove them down our throats. (And that goes double for Osborne's talent-less daughter Kelly). Good riddance to all three. 

[Joviedamian]

Posted: 4/30/22 at 3:36pm

I heard the reason why he is leaving is so that he can concentrate on the now 2-part Wicked movie.

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 4/30/22 at 3:41pm

Joviedamian said: "I heard the reason why he is leaving is so that he can concentrate on the now 2-part Wicked movie."

I actually think he will make a formidable Doctor Dillamond (from what I’ve heard). 
But as per usual, we shall see.

[Dollypop]

Posted: 5/1/22 at 10:07am

If FORUM is revived, Michael Urie would make a marvelous Pseudolus.

[darquegk]

Posted: 5/1/22 at 10:31am

With Pseudolus being traditionally a solidly built to stout, deep voiced baritone actor-who-sings, I’ve always wondered about Will Ferrell in the role. 

[OuttaTowner]

Posted: 5/1/22 at 11:26am

Not a baritone, but might be fun to see Alex Brightman tackle this one day. 

[Dollypop]

Posted: 5/1/22 at 1:24pm

darquegk said: "With Pseudolus being traditionally a solidly built to stout, deep voiced baritone actor-who-sings, I’ve always wondered about Will Ferrell in the role."

 

Sorry, Phil Silvers wasn't a stout man, nor was Nathan Lane. There's no physical description of Pseudolus in the libretto. Urie's zany talents would make him remarkable in the role.

 

Updated On: 5/1/22 at 01:24 PM

[ATerrifyingAndImposingFigure]

Posted: 5/1/22 at 2:07pm

darquegk said: "With Pseudolus being traditionally a solidly built to stout, deep voiced baritone actor-who-sings, I’ve always wondered about Will Ferrell in the role."

Putting aside that Ferrell’s recent work has been really lacking (though maybe it’s just bad scripts) I just don’t see him as a fit here, his style feels quite at odds with Pseudolus. And again, after his recent work, I don’t think I’d trust him to steer the ship of his first Broadway show.

Also, the earlier idea that nobody truly dislikes Corden is definitely false. A Broadway forum being more forgiving doesn’t change that especially since unlike a lot of his most ardent detractors, people here know of his all time best work in Guvnors. I do think he could’ve done this role really well, but I think the last few years have hurt his repairing to the point where there just won’t be the interest in seeing him do it. I really have doubts that Corden can properly rebound to his earlier comedic highs.

Anyway, I don’t know if he’d be the best fit, but I’d certainly be interested in Christian Borle starring in this show. Whenever he gets going in a farce, I find the results thrilling. For a more typical Pseudolus, I think Danny Burstein could be a ton of fun.

[Dollypop]

Posted: 5/1/22 at 5:37pm

Michael Urie as Psuedolus and Christian Borle as Hysterium.  Or vice versa.

[Dolly80]

Posted: 5/1/22 at 6:07pm

KEEP HIM PLEASE!

Updated On: 5/1/22 at 06:07 PM

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 5/2/22 at 12:39pm

Dollypop said: "Michael Urie as Psuedolus and Christian Borle as Hysterium. Or vice versa."

I would be way more on board for the vice versa. Michael Urie definitely reads, to me, as much more of the second banana role that Hysterium fills. 

[jacobsnchz14]

Posted: 5/3/22 at 9:45am

Pop Crave (@PopCrave): “James Corden says he would return to Broadway following his departure from The Late Late Show: “I hope so. I’d love that. That would be great.“”

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 5/3/22 at 3:40pm

Dollypop said: "If FORUM is revived, Michael Urie would make a marvelous Pseudolus."

Urie actually played Hysterium in a really fun gender-bending production at Two River River in 2015, which starred Christohper Fitzgerald as Pseudolus, Bobby Conte Thornton, David Turner, and Eddie Cooper.

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 5/3/22 at 3:46pm

I feel like this article says it best: FAREWELL JAMES CORDEN, YOU WERE AN A**H*LE

When Corden crossed the pond to take over for Ferguson, the star had no hold on American media, almost making him an underdog (he was well-known to people like me for his role on Doctor Who). Slowly, it became apparent that, in order to prove himself, Corden would have to overcompensate by  convincing celebrities to participate in all kinds of embarrassing behavior.

But unlike the similarly annoying and dark-sided Ellen Degeneres or Jimmy Fallon, Corden’s desperation to be liked doesn’t manifest itself in negging (Ellen) or laughing too hard at celebrities’ bad jokes (Fallon). It comes in the form of him desperately wanting to be liked more than the celebrities beside him. It’s rare to see someone so openly wanting attention in the presence of guests, so often he is silently screaming LOOK AT ME...