Emmy Rossum: dubbed? — Page 2
Posted: 12/23/04 at 11:39pm
Updated On: 12/24/04 at 11:39 PM
Posted: 12/24/04 at 12:00am
Posted: 12/24/04 at 12:10am
Posted: 12/24/04 at 12:21am
Back a little: I read an article with Joel Schumacher and he said it was essential for the actors to be great singers as well. How does he explain Minnie being dubbed? Intresting to me! I still haven't seen the movie though! Im such a bad theatre fag!
Posted: 12/24/04 at 12:22am
Posted: 12/24/04 at 12:35am
Posted: 12/24/04 at 12:38am
"i drive a car, but not for nascar"... and she went on to compare it to opera singing.
Posted: 12/24/04 at 12:44am
And quite frankly, if they're open enough about Minnie being dubbed, why not admit it if Emmy was too. There wouldn't be any shame in having someone else sing PTO because of the demands. I believe (and perhaps I'm being naive) that if it were someone else, it would've leaked or been shared by now. Someone would be suing for not getting credit or some such nonsense.
Jon...kudos...I snarfed my diet coke...thanks a heap
Posted: 12/24/04 at 1:01am
Posted: 12/24/04 at 2:22am
Also, Emmy did have to sing up to a high D sharp/E flat (which is now the highest note in the film version of the title track because of the film's elimination of the third verse and the accompanying modulation that ultimately requires stage Christines to hit a high E natural at the climax of the song). The reverb in the recording (which may have been increased to simulate the echoes that would likely result from singing in the Phantom's underground lair OR if Emmy needed some recording engineering magic to amplify her vocalise) is what probably accounts for the perceived difference in Emmy's vocals in the title track. As for her vibrato, it's consistent with the other tracks in the film. I would even say that Emmy actually loses her vibrato at certain points of the vocalise, but it's still her singing. Just my 2 cents.
Posted: 12/24/04 at 10:21am
But bwaysinger, it's very interesting. When I had listened to audio clips of the movie on the website, and I heard Emmy's voice, I thought it was alright. Sweet, but not very strong. But then when "The Phantom of the Opera" song clip played, I thought it sounded nothing like the voice I had just previously heard. And funny enough, in my mind I likened it to Dale Kristien's. I just went back now after reading your post and listened, and it's so bizarre that it really does sound more and more like Dale Kristien's voice!!!! Could it really be?
In all fairness, because of the lowness of the range in the beginning of that song, it can sound quite different. I know, because I've sung the piece. It's definitely more in the chest voice. But now you've really struck my curiosity....Anyone else know of this or find the similarity to Dale's voice? It all just may be a big coincidence....
Posted: 12/24/04 at 11:04am
I again point you to the Marni Nixon years. She was never credited for all of that singing in My Fair Lady and even West Side Story. IT got out, of course, as these things do, but even so, the knowledge that she dubbed a lot of Anita's singing didn't come out until not long ago.
So these things are easily buried. When the only people who know are studio people in the recording room and Dale Kristien herself, plus it's Phantom, which, I must frankly say, isn't the most anticipated movie of the season, so it's not like people are scrounging around for scoop.
I still maintain she was dubbed.
Posted: 12/24/04 at 11:15am
"JUST THE FACTS MAN"
Updated On: 12/24/04 at 11:15 AM
Posted: 12/24/04 at 1:07pm
Posted: 12/24/04 at 1:19pm
Updated On: 12/24/04 at 01:19 PM
Posted: 12/24/04 at 1:27pm
Again, do you REALLY think the star of a film's going to say, on the View, "I have a confession. They decided my takes on 'Phantom of the Opera' weren't satisfactory so they called in an old, trusted veteran of the stage version to dub my vocals on that track."?
Really?
And Marquise, I don't need any facts beyond the very strong belief that it doesn't sound like her on the title song. What's truly amazing me is how offended everyone seems to be by this assumption.
You'd almost think I suggested that Eden Espinosa dubbed all of Idina's songs on the Wicked album.
Posted: 12/24/04 at 1:37pm
I don't think marni dubbed anita only cause it makes no since if anita could not hit the low notes in a boy like that/i have a love..you would think marni would have just as much trouble she is a soprano..and also it seems kinda silly to have marni dueting with herself in that number being she would be doing anita & maria's vocals at the sametime. i don't know who dubbed anita you could be right it could of been marni but that seems weird to me.
Also i think the reason you think emmy sounds so different is cause she is singing in her lower range and her lower range seems stronger than her higher. :)
Updated On: 12/24/04 at 01:37 PM
Posted: 12/24/04 at 2:03pm
Posted: 12/24/04 at 2:30pm
I thought she was dubbed, I asked, I'm still waiting to see if someone has any info to that effect. Also, quite frankly, if it's pissing you off that much, I'm kind of glad.
And, Dukie, Marni herself admits today she's singing Anita's part on the quartet. She is a soprano, but just as people keep saying that Emmy's lower register is stronger, just because she is a soprano doesn't mean she's not capable of some very low singing. A lot of really sopranos can belt their butts off. I point to the current opera star du jour, Renee Fleming. Her diction's way too operatic but she seriously sings the crap out of Broadway belter songs.
Posted: 12/24/04 at 3:35pm
Updated On: 12/24/04 at 03:35 PM
Posted: 12/24/04 at 3:57pm
"I don't think people are offended by your assertion, just annoyed that you keep insisting on your theory despite knowing full well you have no grounds or way to prove it beyond your constant insistence that it's what you think."
i couldnt have said this any better myself
that's it in a nutshell
Posted: 12/24/04 at 6:07pm
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