Goodbye Aladdin
adotburr
Broadway Star Joined: 10/6/21
#25Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/11/21 at 11:58pm
Sutton Ross said: "Let's get Beauty and the Beast in there please....... "
^^^^ I would like this a lot.
#26Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 1:59am
As others have said, until the vax situation for kids gets sorted out, none of these are practical. Feels like an ideal time for AIDA — there’s no world in which that runs longer than one year in a barn like the New Am. And by that point the next show could be ready.
What’s the status of PRINCESS BRIDE? Was a director ever attached to that?
#27Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 2:18am
If the grosses are that bad, I don't think it's the SHOW. It's that fact that the audience isn't there. So, no, I don't think they'd close Aladdin just to open some big, lavish revival or new show. That doesn't make sense. They want to make money. This show was making money before the pandemic. So, either, they close the show all together and just wait it out. Or limp along. It's very similar to their Disneyland property. They closed Frozen there and have yet to announce anything. I suspect if Aladdin closes it'll be awhile - maybe next Fall before we hear of anything new.
#28Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 6:17amIf they’re looking for a bigger theater for “Slave Play” they can move it in there.
#29Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 7:34am
I do think the Winter will see a lot of closures. Disney won't have their theater sit empty for too long. The proposed Beauty & the Beast revival seems most likely. Hercules maybe? Mary Poppins back for a short engagement?
#30Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 9:27amEveryone is missing the point that the reason they’d close Aladdin is to force people to The Lion King, which is what they thought would happen by closing Frozen first. If Aladdin does close in January, I would not expect another Disney show on Broadway until 2023.
Broadway61004
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/14/11
#31Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 9:51am
Jordan Catalano said: "If they’re looking for a bigger theater for “Slave Play” they can move it in there."
I would pay really good money to see a Disney adaptation of Slave Play.
#32Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 10:02amMaybe Billy porter could play Mary Poppins
saxpower
Featured Actor Joined: 9/14/16
#33Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 10:04am
If Aladdin closes, I wonder if it would make economic sense to just move Lion King back there. Yes, there's a cost to that but it avoids the theatre sitting empty AND means they don't have to pay the Nederlanders for the use of the Minskoff. If there's nothing for Disney in the later stages of the pipeline, it may be an option.
Aladdin is a unique case because its producers (one of them, anyway) own the theatre. That means they have to pay to run the theatre, but also means they don't have to pay someone else to. Also, its highly unlikely non-Disney properties will run there for any extended time. From Disney's perspective as a theatre owner, thy don't have to try and "bid" to get shows, but have fewer potential replacements if something closes.
#34Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 11:02am
Was there any reporting on why they decided to move LION KING from the New Am to the Minskoff in 2006, instead of putting MARY POPPINS at the Minskoff or another theatre?
#35Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 11:13am
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Was there any reporting on why they decided to move LION KING from the New Am to the Minskoff in 2006, instead of putting MARY POPPINS at the Minskoff or another theatre?"
I don't know if there was ever any official word, but I just assumed putting their biggest show in the prime location is worth the rent, because it's not going anywhere, and it would give them flexibility to use the New Amsterdam for whatever new show they wanted to premiere and/or close.
"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008
#36Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 11:20am
denali.fire said: "Maybe Billy porter could play Mary Poppins "
Please God, no.
SouthernCakes
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/19
#37Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 11:42amIf they’re trying to cut cost wouldn’t make sense to move Lion King. Just leave it where it is. They could close Aladdin and do a series of Disney concerts. I’m sure people would pay good money to hear Broadway stars sing some Disney classics.
#38Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 11:45am
saxpower is onto something. It's called retrenchment. Although some folks here want to pretend that we are not facing an impending demand crisis, we are and, as I have written before, the SVOG money is creating false economies that will not last very long. Once SVOG dries up and reality sinks in, expect a lot of retrenchment both among the existing and planned shows while we ride this out. Unfortunately, broken optimism usually fuels a dramatic swing towards pessimism (far beyond what would happen if we were moderating that optimism now). We will get through this but we will have to pass through a really ugly period first, especially for shows that depend on target audiences that, for one reason are another, are lacking.
#39Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 12:22pm
“ Was there any reporting on why they decided to move LION KING from the New Am to the Minskoff in 2006, instead of putting MARY POPPINS at the Minskoff or another theatre?”
Cameron Macintosh wanted the New Amsterdam.
Theatrefanboy1
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/2/15
#40Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 3:13pm
This is exactly what I had been hearing before things reopened that ticket sales really are not strong and they are looking like major closures coming in January. And then not too many things Announcing for a solid year. They over extended and the demand is just not there.
In terms of Disney projects. Yes, they are hoping to bring a revival of beauty (I just hope it’s not this abridged version) up first. Around the time Aida will be coming.
Princess bride is about 18 months out before any announcement.
And Hercules is somehow just left on the back burner. Which I really think they could give more consideration to.
But unfortunately there won’t be much in terms of kids shows for a little bit. (Like 2023)
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#41Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 4:43pm
Theatrefanboy1 said: "This is exactly what I had been hearing before things reopened that ticket sales really are not strong and they are looking like major closures coming in January. And then not too many things Announcing for a solid year. They over extended and the demand is just not there.
In terms of Disney projects. Yes, they are hoping to bring a revival of beauty (I just hope it’s not this abridged version) up first. Around the time Aida will be coming.
Princess bride is about 18 months out before any announcement.
And Hercules is somehow just left on the back burner. Which I really think they could give more consideration to.
But unfortunately there won’t be much in terms of kids shows for a little bit. (Like 2023)"
Hmm...I'm not quite sure where you are pulling these "factoids" from -- but I sure hope you're washing them (and your hands) vigorously!
JohnyBroadway
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/12
#42Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 5:17pm
Both Thomas Schumacher and Anne Quart have spoken on a few podcasts over the past couple of months. Hercules is definetly not on the back burner. I don't see them closing Aladdin unless they have a new production ready to go. After all it is their theatre unless the companies shareholders aren't holding out. Between Beauty, Aida, or Hercules, I hope it is the later of the three. A limited engagement of Poppins seems like a treat. It does seem like the show closed so abupt in 2013, this could be a proper send off for the show!
#43Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 5:32pm
JohnyBroadway said: "I don't see them closing Aladdin unless they have a new production ready to go. After all it is their theatre unless the companies shareholders aren't holding out."
So you think they should just bleed money every week for the hell of it?
Not sure what you are saying about shareholders.
Unless I am missing something, your post betrays a jaw-dropping level of obliviousness.
#44Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 7:47pm
I did think Aladdin's days were numbered even before the pandemic but I wouldn't see this as any sort of reliable source.
whatever2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/25/06
#45Goodbye Aladdin
Posted: 10/12/21 at 9:11pm
i'm maybe a little surprised that the name "Hunchback" hasn't been tossed into this frothy mix of speculation...
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