When I see the phrase "the ____ estate", I imagine a vast mansion in the country full of monocled men and high-collared women receiving letters about productions across the country and doing spit-takes at whatever they contain.
-Kad
Mister Matt said: "We have to be able to separate the artist, the work we love and cherish from the past, and their political beliefs.
No, we don't.
Such Hate and Intolerance.
Yes... those of us expressing ourselves are doing so because we do not support, and speak out against, those who support Captain Creamsicle for the reasons that have been commonly reiterated countless times. Using those two words does not create a rule for hypocrisy when you purposely ignore the content. It doesn't work and you know it, so why bother? You just sound foolish. Again.
"She was everyones Darling just a short time ago. Now because of this shes getting this hate. So laughable. Dont you see rightly complaining about the hate coming from Trump and then giving hate like this is why liberals are laughed at by the rest of the country? A good reason why he won.
Petralicious said: "Mister Matt said: "We have to be able to separate the artist, the work we love and cherish from the past, and their political beliefs.
No, we don't.
Such Hate and Intolerance.
Yes... those of us expressing ourselves are doing so because we do not support, and speak out against, those who support Captain Creamsicle for the reasons that have been commonly reiterated countless times. Using those two words does not create a rule for hypocrisy when you purposely ignore the content. It doesn't work and you know it, so why bother? You just sound foolish. Again.
"She was everyones Darling just a short time ago. Now because of this shes getting this hate. So laughable. Dont you see rightly complaining about the hate coming from Trump and then giving hate like this is why liberals are laughed at by the rest of the country? A good reason why he won."
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"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
"She was everyones Darling just a short time ago. Now because of this shes getting this hate. So laughable. Dont you see rightly complaining about the hate coming from Trump and then giving hate like this is why liberals are laughed at by the rest of the country? A good reason why he won.
Oh please that's is the American Right's MO. "I have the right to say any intolerant, hateful thing I want, but you can't call me out on it because it's intolerant of me!" Get the hell out of here with that false outrage.
It would be kind of nice to let her confirm or even offer some statement of what she might be singing and why before burning her at the stake. For all we know she's planning on singing the lesbian duet from The Color Purple to champion inclusion.
“I knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then.”
Some of you are truly pathetic. Somebody on the off-topic boards wrote they hoped that she would "feel the backlash" and then decline. Because it's totally American to berate and ridicule somebody for making an autonomous decision and force them to comply with your views.
I love Jennifer Holliday and hope she'll end up being there.
BroadwayConcierge said: "Some of you are truly pathetic. Somebody on the off-topic boards wrote they hoped that she would "feel the backlash" and then decline. Because it's totally American to berate and ridicule somebody for making an autonomous decision and force them to comply with your views.
I love Jennifer Holliday and hope she'll end up being there.
EvanK said: "We have to be able to separate the artist, the work we love and cherish from the past, and their political beliefs. You can love her talent, and not love her beliefs.
Well I can't. A world famous conductor is a pedophile and while watching the opera he was conducting my eyes and thoughts continually turned to him and the night was ruined.
Ms Holliday is the only person whose name I knew in that uninspiring line up of performers for the 'big bash'--talk about the bottom of the barrel !!
If we feel that Tr*mp is tacitly (or explicitly) endorsing hateful rhetoric and someone choses to support him in any way, at which point we feel that they are endorsing or at least not condemning that same hateful rhetoric, is it not within our right to now want to support that artist?
EvanK said: "We have to be able to separate the artist, the work we love and cherish from the past, and their political beliefs. You can love her talent, and not love her beliefs.
"Conservatives do this all the time, See Streep, Meryl
this is so embarrassing for her. i know her acting gigs have come few and far between after people realized she can't act without singing but geez how desperate can a girl get.
"Contentment, it seems, simply happens. It appears accompanied by no bravos and no tears."
I'm kind of surprised by some of the reactions here. For those of you who support the orange peel listen up. The reason most of us are upset is because Trump is probably the worst presidential candidate in history. I won't give you the speech about all the things he is, but I'm genuinely curious what some of you see in him. While I see him as a vile scumbag clown with no actual knowledge of anything, what do some y'all think? I can tell there's a few of his supporters here. This might not be the best thread to talk about it in, but I am sincerely curious as to why you voted for him.
I'm so glad I didn't go back to see her in The Color Purple!!! Seems like she's going to sabotage her career come back, just like she did after her first big break with Dreamgirls; Never Jennifer Hiliday!
I just want to add that I hate Donald Trump. I don't live in America, I didn't vote for anyone. I would never vote for him or endorse a word he has said.
But I remember what happened to the Dixie Chicks when they spoke out against Bush. America has a tendency to turn on people because their views don't match. Jennifer may hate everything he has said, but feels she needs to be there. I don't know.
But I refuse to crucify an artist because they don't align with my beliefs. Just as I hope people won't crucify me because I am gay.
Now, obviously when artist preaches hate, and is way off base with what I believe.. well it's a different story. But for now, this is an unsubstantiated claim, and until she speaks out about it I will not turn on her. She has been an ally of ours for a long time, so I will give her the benefit of the doubt.