Lea Michele as Fanny - Funny Girl - Page 63

[Penna2]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 7:42pm

RippedMan said: "Ya'll are gonna get this poor girl fired from a huge, major, life changing role. Sucks."

That "poor girl" likely saw the call and said screw it. Whatever happens, her reputation is soiled and that's on her, nobody else. On the other hand, it might lead to a bigger opportunity, especially if there are enough people around like you who think she's an innocent victim.

[blaxx]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 7:50pm

If it was a story of suffering they would not have failed in casting a Jewish person.

But, as always, in a story of joy and success they could've cast practically anyone and get away with a slap in the wrist.

[CatLady3]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 7:52pm

Religion/ethnicity aside, I don't think she'd make a great Fanny based on that short clip of her singing MTMMD. 

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:00pm

Penna2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ya'll are gonna get this poor girl fired from a huge, major, life changing role. Sucks."

That "poor girl" likely saw the call and said screw it. Whatever happens, her reputation is soiled and that's on her, nobody else."

 

BALDERDASH.  Katerina McCrimmon was chosen to portray Fanny Brice in "Funny Girl" because she was the best candidate.  I look forward to seeing her performance.  And I continue to send my best to her and all those involved in this touring production.

 

[Kad]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:02pm

blaxx said: "If it was a story of suffering they would not have failed in casting a Jewish person.

But, as always, in a story of joy and success they could've cast practically anyone and get away with a slap in the wrist."

What recent productions about Jewish joy and success have not cast Jewish leads? 

[CindersGolightly]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:06pm

Highland Guy said: "Penna2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ya'll are gonna get this poor girl fired from a huge, major, life changing role. Sucks."

That "poor girl" likely saw the call and said screw it. Whatever happens, her reputation is soiled and that's on her, nobody else."



BALDERDASH. Katerina McCrimmon was chosen to portray Fanny Brice in "Funny Girl" because she was the best candidate. I look forward to seeing her performance. And I continue to send my best to her and all those involved in this touring production."

the best candidate wouldn't have had to lie by omission to get the role.

[Theatre Fan3]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:06pm

This current discussion has sidelined the original intent of the "Subject" of this thread and should have opted for starting a completely new thread for this topic of discussion!!

[Penna2]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:28pm

Highland Guy said: "Penna2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ya'll are gonna get this poor girl fired from a huge, major, life changing role. Sucks."

That "poor girl" likely saw the call and said screw it. Whatever happens, her reputation is soiled and that's on her, nobody else."



BALDERDASH. Katerina McCrimmon was chosen to portray Fanny Brice in "Funny Girl" because she was the best candidate. I look forward to seeing her performance. And I continue to send my best to her and all those involved in this touring production.
 

How old are you? I'm old and I've never used that expression. In any event, I doubt she was the best candidate. I'm sorry, I can't give perks to someone who knew the preferred casting was for a Jew and deliberately ignored it. However, good a performer she is, I don't like her as a person. Sue me.

 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:36pm

You don't know her so these attacks are asinine, like everything else you've said. Your obsession with only posting on Funny Girl threads is sad and Im glad it's ending in September so you can stop.

Nobody cares if you don't buy a ticket. Your opinion has been noted for the past 2 days with non stop posts saying the same thing. Thanks so much. 

Bye now!

 

[Phillyguy]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:36pm

Penna2 said: "Can we focus please? The issue is having a Jewish woman playing Fanny Brice. Not all this tangent stuff. When they were casting the original production Stephen Sondheim said Fanny should be played by a Jewish woman. They were considering Mary Martin and Carol Burnett among others. Burnett said she believed Fanny should be played by a Jewish woman."

How do you exactly propose the producers do? Ask the illegal question if the actor is Jewish? In the absence of that question, the producers simply have to judge who's the most convincing Fanny Brice in audition. 

Even if the producers want to have a Jewish actor, they simply cannot ask that question and would have to assume that the people who audition fulfil this role. 

As this remains a debate and therefore no clear consensus on whether a non-Jewish actor can play this role, I would expect there are probably more than one non-Jewish actor auditioning. I don't see a way around this, even if that what everyone wanted. 

[Bette's Turban]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:40pm

Boy, they are going to town on this girl in the theater tok.  

[jakethesnake]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:49pm

I have issues with how PC this world has become.   This new world where everyone has to be authentic feels a bit much for me.  With that being said, this is the new world. And if that is the case, then I do think the Jewish religion/culture has gotten the short end of the stick.   If we were talking about a non-Latinx woman playing Eva Peron, there would not be any debate and a huge uproar.  (Of course, we never would have had brilliant performances like Patti and Mandy in the original production, but what do I know?). There shouldn’t be a debate here either then.   This role should be played by an authentic Jew.  And anyone who disagrees with this should not raise a stink when a non-authentic person affects Latinx casting, Filipino casting, gay casting, Korean casting, and everything else on Broadway.  If you feel differently for this role, then your anti-semitism is showing.  PS  -  I remember feeling so gross watching the Alfred Molina Fiddler revival on Broadway.  That was the most goy production of Fiddler I have ever seen.  

[RippedMan]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:56pm

Bette's Turban said: "Boy, they are going to town on this girl in the theater tok. "

As usual let’s keep trying the actor for taking the good paying job and not the ****ty producer, casting team, and director who signed off on it. 

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 8:58pm

Penna2 said: "Highland Guy said: "Penna2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ya'll are gonna get this poor girl fired from a huge, major, life changing role. Sucks."

That "poor girl" likely saw the call and said screw it. Whatever happens, her reputation is soiled and that's on her, nobody else."



BALDERDASH. Katerina McCrimmon was chosen to portray Fanny Brice in "Funny Girl" because she was the best candidate. I look forward to seeing her performance. And I continue to send my best to her and all those involved in this touring production.


How old are you? I'm old and I've never used that expression. In any event, I doubt she was the best candidate. I'm sorry, I can't give perks to someone who knew the preferred casting was for a Jew and deliberately ignored it. However, good a performer she is, I don't like her as a person. Sue me."

My age?  None of your business.  To a degree, I used to respect many of your comments in other threads.  But your posts in this thread have become.......tedious.

[Kad]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:01pm

Penna2 said: "Highland Guy said: "Penna2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ya'll are gonna get this poor girl fired from a huge, major, life changing role. Sucks."

That "poor girl" likely saw the call and said screw it. Whatever happens, her reputation is soiled and that's on her, nobody else."



BALDERDASH. Katerina McCrimmon was chosen to portray Fanny Brice in "Funny Girl" because she was the best candidate. I look forward to seeing her performance. And I continue to send my best to her and all those involved in this touring production.


How old are you? I'm old and I've never used that expression. In any event, I doubt she was the best candidate. I'm sorry, I can't give perks to someone who knew the preferred casting was for a Jew and deliberately ignored it. However, good a performer she is, I don't like her as a person. Sue me.

"

How could she have known preferred casting was for a Jew? The casting notice said “encouraged”- which implies flexibility. And this is a role that, in only the last ten years, has been played by such notable gentiles as Christine Bianco, Sheridan Smith, and potentially Lauren Ambrose. (Not to mention, one of the most common names bandied about as a dream Fanny casting around here is the Lutheran Jessie Mueller). There was obviously more than enough reasonable doubt here. 

Reading malicious intent into an actor submitting for a role they may not be right for- something that actors are encouraged to do in order to be seen by casting- is simply just serving to make yourself angry. You, in fact, do not know this actor. I wager nobody here does. And she certainly didn’t cast herself. And there is zero indication she did any more than submit, be seen, and impress. 

Updated On: 7/12/23 at 09:01 PM

[felixleiter]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:07pm

Let's also not assume that she does not have an agent.  

[RippedMan]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:09pm

Kad said: "Penna2 said: "Highland Guy said: "Penna2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ya'll are gonna get this poor girl fired from a huge, major, life changing role. Sucks."

That "poor girl" likely saw the call and said screw it. Whatever happens, her reputation is soiled and that's on her, nobody else."



BALDERDASH. Katerina McCrimmon was chosen to portray Fanny Brice in "Funny Girl" because she was the best candidate. I look forward to seeing her performance. And I continue to send my best to her and all those involved in this touring production.


How old are you? I'm old and I've never used that expression. In any event, I doubt she was the best candidate. I'm sorry, I can't give perks to someone who knew the preferred casting was for a Jew and deliberately ignored it. However, good a performer she is, I don't like her as a person. Sue me.

"

How could she have known preferred casting was for a Jew? The casting notice said “encouraged”- which implies flexibility. And this is a role that, in only the last ten years, has been played by such notable gentiles as Christine Bianco, Sheridan Smith, and potentially Lauren Ambrose. (Not to mention, one of the most common names bandied about as a dream Fanny casting around here is the Lutheran Jessie Mueller). There was obviously more than enough reasonable doubt here.

Reading malicious intent into an actor submitting for a role they may not be right for- something that actors are encouraged to doin order to be seen by casting- is simply just serving to make yourself angry. You, in fact, do not know this actor. I wager nobody here does. And she certainly didn’t cast herself. And there is zero indication she did any more than submit, be seen, and impress."

Thank you. Don't come for the actress. Come from the rich people trying to make a buck off her. Put your hate towards them.

[jakethesnake]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:11pm

Kad said: "Penna2 said: "Highland Guy said: "Penna2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ya'll are gonna get this poor girl fired from a huge, major, life changing role. Sucks."

That "poor girl" likely saw the call and said screw it. Whatever happens, her reputation is soiled and that's on her, nobody else."



BALDERDASH. Katerina McCrimmon was chosen to portray Fanny Brice in "Funny Girl" because she was the best candidate. I look forward to seeing her performance. And I continue to send my best to her and all those involved in this touring production.


How old are you? I'm old and I've never used that expression. In any event, I doubt she was the best candidate. I'm sorry, I can't give perks to someone who knew the preferred casting was for a Jew and deliberately ignored it. However, good a performer she is, I don't like her as a person. Sue me.

"

How could she have known preferred casting was for a Jew? The casting notice said “encouraged”- which implies flexibility. And this is a role that, in only the last ten years, has been played by such notable gentiles as Christine Bianco, Sheridan Smith, and potentially Lauren Ambrose. (Not to mention, one of the most common names bandied about as a dream Fanny casting around here is the Lutheran Jessie Mueller). There was obviously more than enough reasonable doubt here.

Reading malicious intent into an actor submitting for a role they may not be right for- something that actors are encouraged to doin order to be seen by casting- is simply just serving to make yourself angry. You, in fact, do not know this actor. I wager nobody here does. And she certainly didn’t cast herself. And there is zero indication she did any more than submit, be seen, and impress."

How could she have known?  Because they said it:

 SPECIFICALLY SEEKING ACTORS OF JEWISH HERITAGE.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:19pm

Actually, it says ACTORS OF JEWISH HERITAGE ARE ENCOURAGED TO SUBMIT.

Reading: It's a real thing! How embarrassing! 

Source

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:24pm

[jakethesnake]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:25pm

Sutton Ross said: "Actually, it saysACTORS OF JEWISH HERITAGE ARE ENCOURAGED TO SUBMIT.

Reading: It's a real thing! How embarrassing!

Source"

You are looking at an EPA notice.  I am quoting from the breakdown that was sent to agents and managers.  So shove it. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:26pm

Nah. But, nice way to cover your ass and not admit you're wrong. Lolz. Bye now! 

 

 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:27pm

jakethesnake said: "Kad said: "Penna2 said: "Highland Guy said: "Penna2 said: "RippedMan said: "Ya'll are gonna get this poor girl fired from a huge, major, life changing role. Sucks."

That "poor girl" likely saw the call and said screw it. Whatever happens, her reputation is soiled and that's on her, nobody else."



BALDERDASH. Katerina McCrimmon was chosen to portray Fanny Brice in "Funny Girl" because she was the best candidate. I look forward to seeing her performance. And I continue to send my best to her and all those involved in this touring production.


How old are you? I'm old and I've never used that expression. In any event, I doubt she was the best candidate. I'm sorry, I can't give perks to someone who knew the preferred casting was for a Jew and deliberately ignored it. However, good a performer she is, I don't like her as a person. Sue me.

"

How could she have known preferred casting was for a Jew? The casting notice said “encouraged”- which implies flexibility. And this is a role that, in only the last ten years, has been played by such notable gentiles as Christine Bianco, Sheridan Smith, and potentially Lauren Ambrose. (Not to mention, one of the most common names bandied about as a dream Fanny casting around here is the Lutheran Jessie Mueller). There was obviously more than enough reasonable doubt here.

Reading malicious intent into an actor submitting for a role they may not be right for- something that actors are encouraged to doin order to be seen by casting- is simply just serving to make yourself angry. You, in fact, do not know this actor. I wager nobody here does. And she certainly didn’t cast herself. And there is zero indication she did any more than submit, be seen, and impress."

How could she have known? Because they said it:

SPECIFICALLY SEEKING ACTORS OF JEWISH HERITAGE."

Can we please stop attacking Katerina and give her an OUNCE of the benefit of the doubt?? Exactly, the audition notice asked for actors who identified as Jewish. Do you all think that ill of a person that they would go out of their way to audition for a part they knew they know they shouldn’t be? Can’t we just assume the better in others instead of assuming they’re evil right away? I’m choosing to remain optimistic, and until Katerina herself says she doesn’t identify as Jewish then I don’t see anything wrong with this casting.

Updated On: 7/13/23 at 09:27 PM

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:28pm

"Funny Girl" with Katerina McCrimmon will make its way to the Smith Center in Las Vegas in March 2024.  I won't post their website, because I don't know if BWW allows that.  But, the advertising refers to Fanny Brice as "a girl from the Lower East Side".  Not "a Jewish girl from the Lower East Side". 

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 7/12/23 at 9:34pm

I’m not Jewish, nor do I have any stock in who is or isn’t cast in the tour of Funny Girl, but the agent/manager casting notice explicitly said “We are specifically seeking actors of Jewish heritage for the role of Fanny Brice.” If the actress they cast is not Jewish - as it seems she is not - then the fact that she was submitted in the first place is as much an issue as the team that cast her.

Updated On: 7/12/23 at 09:34 PM