NY, NY may be on its way to closing-NY Post- Page 5

[Robbie2]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 7:41pm

frogs_fan85 said: "The timing of the press release suggests to me that they had a company meeting after the matinee today and hope to have the news of the closing featured in Monday's papers to hopefully spike attendance in the final week."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/arts/broadway-musical-new-york-new-york-closing-date-1235543618/

[Robbie2]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 7:45pm

Producer Tom Kirdahy closing this and Grey House on the same day next Sunday!

[RWPrincess]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 7:49pm

Hopefully Jeremy Jordan is giving Little Shop a good advance

[pmensky]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 7:52pm

frogs_fan85 said: "The timing of the press release suggests to me that they had a company meeting after the matinee today and hope to have the news of the closing featured in Monday's papers to hopefully spike attendance in the final week."

Monday’s papers? What century are you in? 

[n2nbaby]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 7:56pm

From the posts on NYNY’s Instagram posts, people employed with the show found out about its closing on social media. They even sent out work schedules for the first week of August this morning, just to post the closing notice today.

[jagman1062]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:04pm

I don't ever remember a show posting a closing notice on a Sunday evening. How unusual is that? 

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:07pm

jagman1062 said: "I don't ever remember a show posting a closing notice on a Sunday evening. How unusual is that?"

It’s not common, but I also think Mr. Saturday Night did this last year. 

Updated On: 7/23/23 at 08:07 PM

[Theatrefanboy1]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:09pm

Biggest flop of this show unfortunately was how they adapted the original plot of the film and changed it to something completely different.  It lost its heart entirely. 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:11pm

This show was a basic Broadway musical. Nothing special about it, no names, lackluster advertising. I doubt this even tours but might pop up in some regional theaters.

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:11pm

The comments I saw on the Instagram post mentioned a “friend who works for the theatre” found out via the insta post.

Is it possible that the producers informed the cast in person, but not the house crew? 
How would the house crew usually learn of a production’s closing when they’re employed by the theatre and not the producer? Genuine question that I don’t know the answer to. 

[pablitonizer]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:16pm

Wow, just 1 week notice? I thought they had to give at least 2 weeks notice before the closing. 

It's such a bummer that four very different Broadway shows are closing this month

Updated On: 7/23/23 at 08:16 PM

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:27pm

n2nbaby said: "From the posts on NYNY’s Instagram posts, people employed with the show found out about its closing on social media. They even sent out work schedules for the first week of August this morning, just to post the closing notice today."

People assumed that and are attacking the show for it but we don't know for a fact they weren't told before today. 

[AKarp2013]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:30pm

I was always under the impression that per union rules, companies must be notified at least two weeks prior to closing that they will be out of work. Or am I making this up?

[pmensky]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:35pm

AKarp2013 said: "I was always under the impression that per union rules, companies must be notified at least two weeks prior to closing that they will be out of work. Or am I making this up?"

I know under AEA LORT contracts you have to give the company two weeks notice, but that may be for shows that already have a scheduled closing date but are closing early. I’m not sure how it works for open ended Production contracts.

[BETTY22]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:43pm

Too bad. I was hoping it would find its audience. 

It's heartbreaking to see shows close so quickly. Love or hate the show, a lot of people worked very hard on this. 

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 8:44pm

Someone will know for sure, but I believe they can say “We’re closing tomorrow” and the company must still be paid for two weeks extra. (Think of all the shows that closed on opening night in the past).

Regarding the work schedule email timing, the person who sends out the schedule (stage management I’m assuming) probably sent the email at the same time that they do every week, and the closing decision hadn‘t been told to them yet either. The producers wouldn’t have known or cared that that schedule email had or hadn’t been sent yet, or that it would be superseded by a closing announcement. They have bigger problems.

[quizking101]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 9:00pm

I know it was going to go down soon, but I didn’t expect it to fold before summer’s end. 

This went down harder than Bullets over Broadway - which ran 156 performances, and even POTUS (126 performances)

[pmensky]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 9:00pm

BorisTomashevsky said: "Someone will know for sure, but I believe they can say “We’re closing tomorrow” and the company must still be paid for two weeks extra. (Think of all the shows that closed on opening night in the past).

Right, a producer can close a show whenever they want. The question is whether or not the union members involved are owed at least two weeks pay under the Production contract regardless of the closing date.

[Mr. Wormwood]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 9:14pm

I'm sad for the people involved with the show but the outrage on the Instagram comments is pretty hilarious. I think people have gotten used to closing notices being at least a few weeks before actual closing but this used to be the norm for closings and as long as they are fulfilling their contractual obligations, there's really nothing people can do about it. That being said, if the crew did find out via social media, that is still not morally right.

I remember when we had the slew of January closings this year, it seemed to prop up the shows that hung on to better than expected box office numbers in the winter months. I wonder if that will happen here for the shows that are sticking it out with now five shows closing between this week and next.

[quizking101]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 9:38pm

Mr. Wormwood said: "I'm sad for the people involved with the show but the outrage on the Instagram comments is pretty hilarious. I think people have gotten used to closing notices being at least a few weeks before actual closing but this used to be the norm for closings and as long as they are fulfilling their contractual obligations, there's really nothing people can do about it. That being said, if the crew did find out via social media, that is still not morally right.

I remember when we had the slew of January closings this year, it seemed to prop up the shows that hung on to better than expected box office numbers in the winter months. I wonder if that will happen here for the shows that are sticking it out with now five shows closing between this week and next."

I feel like it’s more like a balancing act where we got such a glut of summer openings that the summer closings are just balancing the total number of shows back to what it would normally be during any given summer. 

[dramamama611]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 9:49pm

My understanding as far as pay goes, it doesn't really matter how long the announcement is...the actors (and I'm assuming the stage hands, orchestra, etc) are contracted to pay for a certain number of weeks, whether or not they are performing.  I always thought it was 2, but it might be one.  

[jakethesnake]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 10:02pm

For Broadway shows, the producers are only required to provide one week’s notice to close a show.  

[OMG U Guyz]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 11:11pm

Per equity rules that’s correct. I read that the cast was told last Tuesday but it seems like some crew/staff were left out of the conversation. 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 7/23/23 at 11:30pm

OMG U Guyz said: "I read that the cast was told last Tuesday but it seems like some crew/staff were left out of the conversation."

Surprised there weren't leaks, if that's indeed true. Usually if the cast (and investors) are told even the night before an announcement, it spreads like wildfire.

Updated On: 7/23/23 at 11:30 PM

[Tag]

Posted: 7/24/23 at 12:20am

Production Contract is 1 week's notice or one week's salary.
The IATSE August work schedule would have been sent out by a Production Manager type person, with no prior knowledge of what the producers were going to announce later in the day.  They were just doing business as usual.
My bet would be any "staff" finding out through Instagram would be FOH staff.