verywellthensigh said: "The last four years of leadership, including the Kamala campaign. have been so greasy with arrogance and incompetence it's really hard to pinpoint the one thing that made this election such a fiasco.
"I'm speaking!" and trotting out Dick Cheney were really just the cherries on top of a hot two-turd sundae.
As for Bernie, I knocked on doors throughout Pennsyltucky I was shocked at how amenable red-staters were to his ideas. It was the liberals who wouldn't listen or take it seriously."
They never have. I remember debating here in 2016 that Polls were showing Trump could lose to Hillary and Bernie miles ahead but was scorned because obviously that wasn't the mainstream thinking at the time. I do concede that there is a difference between polls during a primary vs an actual general election, but still.
One poster accused me of being privileged recently but I do want to give them a secret: I'm not economically privileged and I was given nothing. It was because of Bernie Sanders' type policies in other countries that gave me the privilege. I worked for a high minimum wage at a fast food restaurant that paid for me to fly and stay in New York City to see Bernadette in A Little Night Music and Follies. It was a public healthcare system that meant I never had to worry if I was sick and it was an accessible higher education system with sensible repayment systems that gave me the opportunity to get an education so I could come here and annoy everyone with my words but also get a job that can pay me enough so yes I could go and see my lifelong dream to see a brand new Sondheim musical in New York City without having to think twice. The only thing I had to do was study and work hard because if I did the government policies had my back.
That is why I was so surprised when I started understanding the US political system that Hillary Clinton and the current Democratic Party look more like conservative politicians in other countries and Bernie Sanders was the only one I recognised that I felt would give others the opportunities that I myself got.
Ever since we saw the DNC try and destroy Bernie Sanders' campaign in 2016 (see: leaked emails) it feels like it's been a slow death since, and I don't recognise the current mainstream opinion in circles that the Democrats do not have a lot to learn or are a party for working people.
I think working people want to feel like they can have success regardless of their background if they are given the opportunity to fully realise their potential and work hard. I think the Democrats can do better in realising this mission.....
I'm also not suggesting that Trump is going to be any better for them, but I can imagine desperate people clinging to try any alternative for hope.
They all had their rightful place in history and have done some good things but it really does feel like the Democrats need to shake this legacy old guard between Biden, Clintons, Obamas etc. stop leading the party like this now it doesn't work.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
People, can we just move on now from all the Nicole attacking. Don't you have anythinge else to do? Social media is killing us. Give it a break and just chill and live life!
"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new."
Sunday in the Park with George
Robbie2 said: "People, can we just move on now from all the Nicole attacking. Don't you have anythinge else to do? Social media is killing us. Give it a break and just chill and live life!"
For real. I was telling a Liberal friend (who has been devastated this week) about the Nicole situation and that I had tickets for next week. She said "go and enjoy that beautiful lady." That's how I feel about the situation.
The amount of wasted energy invested by so many on here is baffling. I mind my own business and worry only about stuff that is in MY life. Artists and people have opinions and choices just as much as I do - I don’t judge anyone just as I don’t like being judged either. There are countless artists who are batsh*t crazy with their views but that doesn’t prevent me from enjoying their work. If I were to boycott everyone who has views different from mine then I’d be a prisoner in my own home. I live my life just as others live theirs. Sadly many don’t live their lives following Tina Fey’s mantra: “silent luxury.” Keep your personal views to yourself and make changes as you seem fit. No need to announce it to the world. Let your actions make changes, not your mouth.
BrodyFosse123 said: "Sadly many don’t live their lives following Tina Fey’s mantra: “silent luxury.” Keep your personal views to yourself and make changes as you seem fit. No need to announce it to the world. Let your actions make changes, not your mouth."
I think that might have worked if Scherzinger hadn't just made a TikTok showing her walking to the polls with a tagline of "making the RIGHT choice".
binau said: "What continues to frustrate me is that you just lost an election and you lost it big. And you’re all looking to point fingers and find people to blame, such as Nicole Scherzinger who is probably some dumb Christian
You need to step away from your keyboard. Stop bashing others because of their faith. And for your information: Nicole Scherzinger is Catholic, not Christian. And yes, there is a difference.
CarlosAlberto said: "binau said: "What continues to frustrate me is that you just lost an election and you lost it big. And you’re all looking to point fingers and find people to blame, such as Nicole Scherzinger who is probably some dumb Christian
You need to step away from your keyboard. Stop bashing others because of their faith. And for your information: NicoleScherzinger is Catholic, not Christian. And yes, there is a difference."
I agree that people should stop bashing her for her religion but if you are Catholic you are therefore a Christian.
TotallyEffed said: "CarlosAlberto said: "binau said: "What continues to frustrate me is that you just lost an election and you lost it big. And you’re all looking to point fingers and find people to blame, such as Nicole Scherzinger who is probably some dumb Christian
You need to step away from your keyboard. Stop bashing others because of their faith. And for your information: NicoleScherzinger is Catholic, not Christian. And yes, there is a difference."
I agree that people should stop bashing her for her religion but if you are Catholicyou are therefore a Christian."
Just to be clear: I am a Christian because I believe Jesus died for our sins to save us and be the bridge between us and our relationship with God. That does not make me Catholic. But yes Catholics and Christians do believe in Christ and his sacrifice.
The Scorpion said: "BrodyFosse123 said: "Sadly many don’t live their lives following Tina Fey’s mantra: “silent luxury.” Keep your personal views to yourself and make changes as you seem fit. No need to announce it to the world. Let your actions make changes, not your mouth."
I think that might have worked if Scherzinger hadn't just made a TikTok showing her walking to the polls with a tagline of "making the RIGHT choice"."
Just in case someone tries claiming she didn't really because of the version on her fan page that's edited to be more extreme, here's the one from her official page. She did post the tagline, knows exactly what she's doing, and couldn't possibly look more smug. https://www.instagram.com/nicolescherzinger/reel/DCAHgRPRsnk/
For all those claiming that everyone is entitled to their opinion, at what point is it acceptable to be angry or want nothing to do with the people who vote in politicians who actively hurt us? Or is it always just, "They have a right to their opinion!" no matter how much direct harm the politicians they vote for do to us and people we love?
I swear I have never seen such a swamp of bizarre political takes one could possibly imagine on this site. Especially, that right wing Bernadette character extolling our new Hitler lol. Anyhoo, it certainly seems to bother folks on here that people continue to speak out about issues and such. You will be happy to know that in the new order that will be nipped in the bud, as they erase certain "undesirables" from our culture. And I suspect some of you will be quite ready to sign that oath of allegiance. Good luck.
I realise my post came across that way sorry but genuinely especially after I have watched the left become very strangely anti religious (although they pick and choose which religions they like or don’t like depending on whether it suits their political agenda) I do want to say I agree we need to stop bashing Christians and it’s not ok that it has become the default religion everyone is ‘allowed’ to. It’s wrong. It would be hypocritical of me to say otherwise and for similar reasons I think it’s becoming old fashioned to bash ‘straight white old men’ or really any group of people because it actually isn’t ok.
In literal terms I really meant that Nicole doesn’t seem like the most intelligent person AND she happens to be Christian, which to me would likely more explain her vote than any silly accusations of nazism, racism, fascism, sexism etc.
I do think there are many intelligent Christians I have met and observed on all sides of the political spectrum. Even though it’s hard for me to understand their beliefs (not in terms of knowledge I grew up as a Christian and studied religion, I just left religion).
When I use the term Christian I’m referring to the 1st level category whereas I would call 2nd level categories such as Catholic or Angelican denominations. In my eyes all Catholics are Christians but not all Christians are Catholics. And anyone that believes in the bible and associated scripture, Jesus as our saviour who died for our sins etc. is a Christian.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Impeach2017 said: "I swear I have never seen such a swamp ofbizarre political takes one could possibly imagine on this site. Especially, that right wing Bernadette character extolling our new Hitler lol. Anyhoo, it certainly seems to bother folks on here that people continue to speak out about issues and such. You will be happy to know that in the new order that will be nipped in the bud, as they erase certain "undesirables" from our culture. And I suspect some of you will be quite ready to sign that oath of allegiance. Good luck."
Aww honestly until I watched USA culture implode resulting in things like the great comet or Patti Hell’s Kitchen debacle no one ever would describe me as ‘right’, it’s more I just feel the culture slipping away from me in very strange ways. I genuinely wonder if it’s this same implosion of misguided victimhood that has just caused you right now to call Trump the new Hitler. Trump can indeed be a racist, lying, sexist, fascist and still not be Hitler.
The defining feature of Hitler is he committed a genocide of millions of people. You can likely find other similarities between Hitler and Trump but I assure you that you can also find non-genocidal similarities between Hitler and Trump between Trump and many other current and previous world leaders (including fascists). But the single uniquely defining feature that hitler did, which no other world leader in modern history did, is the genocide of millions of people.
Calling Trump Hitler feels like the ultimate misguided victimhood. Because it’s clear to anyone that while yes he might degrade others, and he might marginalise immigrants, and he might deport illegal immigrants, and he might be all otherwise racist and sexist he is obviously not going to cause the genocide of millions of people. If you believe that I sincerely believe you are delusional, and I believe that you have just used the most self limiting tactic you can think of because if people hear Hitler they know it’s overblown so suddenly all the other criticism becomes less credible. I think this is likely another self-caused harm leading to a Trump victory.
And in this strange culture right now what I hate is that even suggesting Trump is not Hitler makes me feel like people would think I support him but it’s just not that. What am reading and witnessing in some extreme circles across the internet just does not seem rationale. There are much more serious conversations about this kind of thing in other channels that don’t resort to this. To be clear this forum is up there in terms of extreme.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
The key difference between “Catholics” and “Christians” is that Catholics are even more misogynistic. They can’t even accept that Mary got laid in order to create Jesus.
Oh, and transubstantiation. Our current President believes that he actually eats the flesh of Christ every week. Yeah.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
Binau, I take the Hitler comparisons to mean 1920s/1930s Hitler. They took a similar route to power, using the same methods. When Shoah victims implore us to “learn from the past, so history won’t repeat itself”, this is what they mean.
Hitler came to power five years before Kristallnacht happened.
Tonight is the anniversary of that heinous evening, incidentally.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
Jay, does having ChatGPT be an independent arbitrar make it more or less convincing?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
To be fair, Trump only wants to denaturalize, incarcerate, and deport a bunch of people he thinks are poisoning the blood of America. Much like champagne, it's only a holocaust if there's incineration, otherwise it's just a sparkling pogrom.
denali.fire said: "Gee. I thought we were the tolerant left."
If We are the Tolerant Left and They are the Intolerant Right, then by design as They grow stronger We get weaker. This happens primarily because when We disagree We eat our own.