I don't see Norma as a victim of trauma as much of an archetype of lost youth and glamour. Maybe that's from where I sit in my life. But the emotions that are stirred up by the music are ones of regret and the refusal to retreat and die. That's pretty universal. I think it's legitimate to read Norma as a victim of trauma but the tendency of the current era to wedge every story into a trauma narrative is a bit like an earlier generation trying to fit stories into some kind of Freudian mold.
When the film was made, none of these issues (misogyny, ageism, mental health) were popular concepts.
I've always seen the film as a critique of Hollywood itself, hence Joe being included it its satirical edge. He finds love but gives it up for material comfort. Or how the studio not only wasn't interested in producing Salome, but wanted to rent her car. It's a satire of the heartlessness of the whole town. And Norma is an unstable little bird who gets crushed in its gears (whatever weird metaphor that is).
SonofRobbieJ said: "It's absurd at any point for a 50 (or 40) year old to insist they can play 16."
Funny you should say that: the only thing I vividly remember about Scandalous was the absurdity of a 50-ish Carolee Carmello playing Aimee Semple McPherson as a teenager.
kdogg36 said: "SonofRobbieJ said: "It's absurd at any point for a 50 (or 40) year old to insist they can play 16."
Funny you should say that: the only thing I vividly remember aboutScandalouswas the absurdity of a 50-ish Carolee Carmello playingAimee Semple McPherson as a teenager."
Nothing onstage could be worse than 75 year old Robert DeNiro de-aged in Scorsese's THE IRISHMAN, which (a) didn't look like the Bob D we knew in the 70s, and (b) any time he had to run or do combat it was with the energy of a 75-year-old. Yet somehow the movie still worked (for me).
Huss417 said: "I have seats in Orch C 2-4 and wondering if the projections are distorted that close to the stage.
Thanks. ;)"
I had that row (and dead center) this past Saturday. Will be shooting for those seats again. Perfect view. The stage is so deep that the screen is actually back a bit and it felt perfect - you had the intimacy of being able to make eye contact with the actors and didn't lose any sense of the scene from the video
BJR said: "When the film was made, none of these issues (misogyny, ageism, mental health) were popular concepts.”
Those topics were in their infancy, but I think Billy Wilder deserves a bit more credit. Would he have written about Betty being pressured into a nose job or Norma undergoing arduous beauty treatments if he wasn’t interested in how the industry specifically impacted women? And he goes out of his way to suggest Norma is receiving some form of primitive mental healthcare—Max says her doctor recommended removing all locks in the house so she can’t shut herself in and harm herself.
Regardless, I think those themes are bubbling to the surface in recent productions. The Kennedy Center production included a flashback of teenage Norma being berated for her weight, and I’d argue even Glenn Close’s portrayal softened considerably between the 90s and 2017. Anyways, I won’t say anything more on the themes, since this is getting too off-topic from the current production…
Tonight (10/15) would be my third time visiting this production. Nicole Scherzinger has just gotten better and better from almost a year ago when I first saw it in London. It’s so creative and entertaining! The lighting, the sound, the choreography, the cast….i can’t wait to go back again. In my opinion treat yourself and purchase a close seat to that stage so you can really experience it. Enjoy!
WiCkEDrOcKS said: "Robbie2 said: "The u/s for Betty will go on tomorrow as press starts coming Thursday"
Ugh, do we know this for sure?"
I run Understudies.org and this is what I'm hearing. Things can change very quickly and it's not apparent (to me) who is going on for Betty yet, that's not public.
TaffyDavenport said: "Broadway Understudies has posted that David Thaxton is out tonight, and Shavey Brown will be making his debut as Max."
I had the opportunity to see them tonight; they were incredible! Very operatic voice, held his own nicely to a very vocally powerful principal performer. 😊
BETTY22 said: "If you sit under the overhang the top 15% of the screen is cut off.
RUSH and see this amazing production. After Sunday night reviews, it's going to be impossible to get a ticket for a while."
Most of the orchestra seats are gone now for the next few weeks. Does anyone know if they held seats back for rush or if they're selling mezzanine seats now? When I went, it was orchestra and then balcony. If I have to climb up to the miserable St. James balcony anyway, I'll just pay the extra $15.
Finally saw it and add me to the chorus of those saying it's bonkers but moments of brilliance. She's incredible and I know it's way too early to say it, but I think she takes the Tony. In that crowd last night, this show is an event, and she is the event. Sure, the production is, too, but it's so tightly constructed around her and this conception of her as Norma. And oddly, it's almost like a star is born... again.
I need to go back again. Has again rushed or lotto'd this? Worth it?