Snow White 2025 — Page 3

Updated On: 3/26/25 at 11:37 PM

I'm not sure if Snow White is even that 'woke' or if it's been the victim of a terrible smeer campaign (for what it's worth, I like a couple of songs on the soundtrack - shoot me). However, if it looks like this is shaping to be the box office bomb it will be because of the perception of wokeness does it not reinforce the idea that 'go woke, go broke' is a real thing? I don't know how many data points we need to see that we need a different approach now to promote social justice and equality than this initially well-intentioned but now out-of-control religious-like ideological cult this has turned into.

How much more division are we going to go through? This ideology appears to be having a counterproductive effect where the very goals it is trying to achieve are being compromised. It contributed to a Trump win, it has set trans rights back, it has caused the entire cast of "The Great Comet" - many of which who are POC - to lose their jobs. It has caused Rachel C herself to be sued for racial discrimination because she allegedly fired a POC actor and replaced them with a white actor because she didn't like the optics of having an all POC-ensemble (how can someone believe they are standing up for equality by firing a POC for their skin colour?). It has caused people to create hysteria and fighting over Patti LuPone's 'racist microaggressions' of commenting on objective sound levels.

This well-intentioned experiment to promote social justice and equality is having negative consequences, and it's started a culture war that is being lost. There must be another way through this.

It is interesting to see some of the Democratic Leadership - namely Gavin Newsom - to break ranks and try and move away from some of this hysteria. Likely because he realises that this is not going to be his ticket to the Presidency in 2028.

Like Mccarthyism, I predict over the next 10 years this ideology will finally calm down and be replaced with sensible adult leadership who know how to promote social justice and equality WITHOUT resorting to extreme tactics.

Updated On: 3/22/25 at 07:06 AM

Yes, that is what happened. So in response she allegedly fired a POC and replaced with them a white person. Racist action towards an individual POC (firing them BECAUSE of their skin colour) due to the overarching concern (caused by 'woke culture' because people are paying close attention to everyone's race and the subtext associated with it) that having an all-POC ensemble with a white lead would come across racist.

My main point is that we just need to stop this hysterical obsession with race and gender, and be careful about when there are accusations of racism. For years I've been complaining about this on this board whenever we had a 'woke blowup'/controversy. What I didn't appreciate/realise until recently though is that this board has been a microcosm for something that has been happening at mass scale across the US and other western countries. The culture is now being ripped from the bare hands of people who won't stop this madness and it's painful to watch because it shouldn't have to be like this if people would just be reasonable.

Updated On: 3/22/25 at 09:52 AM

I think your post exactly reflects what's wrong with the progressive movement in USA right now, partly why Trump won, why (according to Gavin Newsom and Tim Walz' episode - I haven't looked at the first hand info) the Democratic Party has historical low support right now. If someone doesn't say or believe exactly what you want you toss them on the curb. The inability to compromise is causing the movement to become more and more marginalised. You can keep with this same approach, but soon you'll be talking to an empty room. You are so ideological that you literally are not able to even empathise or understand why people are not buying all of the ideas. Snow White losing 200m USD or whatever it is is just yet another causality of the culture war that you started and have lost. Meanwhile, trans people are being erased from society because you couldn't accept some common sense compromises to align with the vast majority popular opinion (e.g. participation in sports). Great job!!! So much equality it's worked!

Updated On: 3/22/25 at 10:16 AM

Aaaaaaaaanyways….

Has anyone else seen this or listened to the soundtrack? I appreciate the score tracks by Jeff Morrow on the deluxe, but these P&P songs are just as ‘meh’ in the film as they are in audio.

It's a beautiful, delightful, and magical film! I loved it, and Rachel is spectacular. It's a colorful movie as well. I think what I loved about it the most is the structure of the movie as a musical. We get all the elements here -- opening number (that is NOT like Beauty and the Beast), an I Want song, a villain number, a love song, an eleven o'clock number, reprises, and a finale. I loved The Little Mermaid live-action remake, but I'm still mad that movie went 17 minutes before a song was ever sung, and it didn't end with a stirring reprise.

Moreover, some of you are acting like Rachel Zegler wrote, directed, and produced the damn thing. Please use your brains and realize anything she said about the movie were talking points given to her by someone else, or were things hammered during the casting process, preproduction, production, and post production. This movie was announced in 2016, and Rachel wasn't cast until 2021. That's five years of creating the storyline and penning the songs. It's interesting that Lily James, Emma Watson, Naomi Scott, and Halle Bailey all said the same rhetoric about their respective movies, but yet Rachel Zegler is the one getting all the hate. While the original Snow White is a classic, please rewatch it if you haven't. It is boring and dated, and this new version is a vast improvement.

Lastly, just like Cinderella, Snow White is a simple fairy tale. The basics are evil queen, magic mirror, seven dwarfs, and poisoned apple. You need to flesh it out a bit to make a full length film. The 1937 version fleshed it out by adding a lot of scenes with the dwarfs. This new version expanded the storyline by giving us backstory, romance (yes, the love story is still here, including the kiss), and Snow White's determination to be the leader her parents taught her to be and taking her kingdom back from her interloping wicked stepmother.

DAME said: "The movie is doing well this weekend ."

It was the worst opening weekend for a live-action adaptation since Dumbo. Also, it holds a 42% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. This is not "doing well."

BrodyFosse123 said: ""

This is so embarassing. Yeah, the reason this movie failed was because she tweeted about Palestine and not because nobody was interested in a live action Snow White movie and he felt compelled to push through with it anyway. Like... can any movie executive ever for once in their life take responsibility for why a movie failed or is it always the movie or the star's fault?

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/snow-white-producer-son-blames-rachel-zegler-1236349351/

Oh Jonah! I'm so sorry your Dad had to "leave his family" (like he has small kids and is deeeeeply struggling out there), get on his private jet, and accost a young woman who has a perfectly rational opinion? Nah.

The reason Top Gun: Maverick or a David Mamet play is incredibly successful is that nobody cares about the personal lives of those involved. People just want to be entertained and think others have the right to have opinions, and practice whatever they believe. Wild concept.

Your Daddy's movie failed because no one cares about live action anymore and someone approved these horrifying creatures that literally made my niece scream and throw her favorite stuffy across three aisles in the movie theater, which generated the biggest laugh of the entire film that day. Get a clue.

BrodyFosse123 said: "https://variety.com/2025/film/news/snow-white-producer-son-blames-rachel-zegler-1236349351/"


My favorite line in that story is “His Two Episode Role”

Nah, I'm going to trust what most people are saying, but glad you had a good time.