Snow White 2025- Page 3

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 3/21/25 at 11:37pm

Updated On: 3/26/25 at 11:37 PM

[GuyfromGermany]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 5:49am

And a 77% on the Popcornmeter on said page.
Which says more about the movie than any review.

[binau]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 7:06am

I'm not sure if Snow White is even that 'woke' or if it's been the victim of a terrible smeer campaign (for what it's worth, I like a couple of songs on the soundtrack - shoot me). However, if it looks like this is shaping to be the box office bomb it will be because of the perception of wokeness does it not reinforce the idea that 'go woke, go broke' is a real thing? I don't know how many data points we need to see that we need a different approach now to promote social justice and equality than this initially well-intentioned but now out-of-control religious-like ideological cult this has turned into.

How much more division are we going to go through? This ideology appears to be having a counterproductive effect where the very goals it is trying to achieve are being compromised. It contributed to a Trump win, it has set trans rights back, it has caused the entire cast of "The Great Comet" - many of which who are POC - to lose their jobs. It has caused Rachel C herself to be sued for racial discrimination because she allegedly fired a POC actor and replaced them with a white actor because she didn't like the optics of having an all POC-ensemble (how can someone believe they are standing up for equality by firing a POC for their skin colour?). It has caused people to create hysteria and fighting over Patti LuPone's 'racist microaggressions' of commenting on objective sound levels. 

This well-intentioned experiment to promote social justice and equality is having negative consequences, and it's started a culture war that is being lost. There must be another way through this. 

It is interesting to see some of the Democratic Leadership - namely Gavin Newsom - to break ranks and try and move away from some of this hysteria. Likely because he realises that this is not going to be his ticket to the Presidency in 2028. 

Like Mccarthyism, I predict over the next 10 years this ideology will finally calm down and be replaced with sensible adult leadership who know how to promote social justice and equality WITHOUT resorting to extreme tactics. 

Updated On: 3/22/25 at 07:06 AM

[dramamama611]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 9:18am

binau said: "I'm not sure if Snow White is even that 'woke' or if it's been the victim of a terrible smeer campaign (for what it's worth, I like a couple of songs on the soundtrack - shoot me).However, if it looks like this is shaping to be the box office bomb it will be because of theperceptionof wokeness does it not reinforce the idea that 'go woke, go broke' is a real thing? I don't know how many data points we need to see that we need a different approach now to promote social justice and equality than this initially well-intentioned but now out-of-control religious-like ideological cultthis has turned into.

How much more division are we going to go through? This ideology appears to be having a counterproductive effect where the very goals it is trying to achieve are being compromised. It contributed to a Trump win, it has set trans rights back, it has caused the entire cast of "The Great Comet" - many of which who are POC - to lose their jobs. It has caused Rachel C herself to be sued for racial discrimination because she allegedly fired a POC actor and replaced them with a white actor because she didn't like the optics of having an all POC-ensemble (how can someone believe they are standing up for equality by firing a POC for their skin colour?). It has caused people to create hysteria and fighting over Patti LuPone's 'racist microaggressions' of commenting on objective sound levels.

This well-intentioned experiment to promote social justice and equality is having negative consequences, and it's started a culture war that is being lost. There must be another way through this.

It is interesting to see some of the Democratic Leadership - namely Gavin Newsom - to break ranks and try and move away from some of this hysteria. Likely because he realises that this is not going to be his ticket to the Presidency in 2028.

LikeMccarthyism, I predict over the next 10 years this ideology will finally calm down and be replaced with sensible adult leadership who know how to promote social justice and equality WITHOUT resorting to extreme tactics."

Wasn't the perception of what an all minority ensemble in Hadestown the reason behind it: that it looked bad to imply that only person's of color would be slaves? (Perhaps I've misconstrued your intent here )

[binau]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 9:52am

Yes, that is what happened. So in response she allegedly fired a POC and replaced with them a white person. Racist action towards an individual POC (firing them BECAUSE of their skin colour) due to the overarching concern (caused by 'woke culture' because people are paying close attention to everyone's race and the subtext associated with it) that having an all-POC ensemble with a white lead would come across racist. 

My main point is that we just need to stop this hysterical obsession with race and gender, and be careful about when there are accusations of racism. For years I've been complaining about this on this board whenever we had a 'woke blowup'/controversy. What I didn't appreciate/realise until recently though is that this board has been a microcosm for something that has been happening at mass scale across the US and other western countries. The culture is now being ripped from the bare hands of people who won't stop this madness and it's painful to watch because it shouldn't have to be like this if people would just be reasonable. 

Updated On: 3/22/25 at 09:52 AM

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 10:05am

binau said: "

It is interesting to see some of the Democratic Leadership - namely Gavin Newsom - to break ranks and try and move away from some of this hysteria. Likely because he realises that this is not going to be his ticket to the Presidency in 2028.

LikeMccarthyism, I predict over the next 10 years this ideology will finally calm down and be replaced with sensible adult leadership who know how to promote social justice and equality WITHOUT resorting to extreme tactics."

Gavin Newsom turning on trans people and throwing them to the wolves, along with cuddling up to ring-wing podcasters, is doing nothing but show he has no principles and is bending whichever way the wind blows. It's not going to win him votes from anyone, since everyone on every side can see he stands for nothing.

As ever, you don't know what you're talking about. (And if anything, McCarthyism is back with Trump's fascist playbook--demanding government employees say who they voted for; refusing entry to foreign nationals who posted against him?--and as always, it's being fueled by the right-wing.)

[binau]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 10:16am

I think your post exactly reflects what's wrong with the progressive movement in USA right now, partly why Trump won, why (according to Gavin Newsom and Tim Walz' episode - I haven't looked at the first hand info) the Democratic Party has historical low support right now. If someone doesn't say or believe exactly what you want you toss them on the curb. The inability to compromise is causing the movement to become more and more marginalised. You can keep with this same approach, but soon you'll be talking to an empty room. You are so ideological that you literally are not able to even empathise or understand why people are not buying all of the ideas. Snow White losing 200m USD or whatever it is is just  yet another causality of the culture war that you started and have lost. Meanwhile, trans people are being erased from society because you couldn't accept some common sense compromises to align with the vast majority popular opinion (e.g. participation in sports). Great job!!! So much equality it's worked!

Updated On: 3/22/25 at 10:16 AM

[TheQuibbler]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 11:11am

The progressive movement and the Democratic Party are two different entities. The party has historical lows because, like MemorableUserName suggested, people think their representatives don’t stand for anything. Hakeem Jeffries throwing up his hands in the middle of a coup and saying, “well there’s nothing we can do” is why the polling is low. Newsom cozying up right-wing podcasters is why the polling is low (and, no, it doesn’t help unite the aisle because polling also suggests Republicans don’t believe these people either). Schumer flip flopping on supporting the budget bill is why opinion is low. Who are these people representing? It’s not about a purity test, it’s about no one standing up to the fascist takeover. 

But, hey, it’s the left’s fault racists can’t deal with a Black Little Mermaid or a Latina Snow White. 

Updated On: 3/22/25 at 11:11 AM

[GiantsInTheSky2]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 11:21am

Aaaaaaaaanyways….

Has anyone else seen this or listened to the soundtrack? I appreciate the score tracks by Jeff Morrow on the deluxe, but these P&P songs are just as ‘meh’ in the film as they are in audio. 

[DAME]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 4:44pm

The movie is doing well this weekend .

[degrassifan]

Posted: 3/22/25 at 5:52pm

It's a beautiful, delightful, and magical film! I loved it, and Rachel is spectacular. It's a colorful movie as well. I think what I loved about it the most is the structure of the movie as a musical. We get all the elements here -- opening number (that is NOT like Beauty and the Beast), an I Want song, a villain number, a love song, an eleven o'clock number, reprises, and a finale. I loved The Little Mermaid live-action remake, but I'm still mad that movie went 17 minutes before a song was ever sung, and it didn't end with a stirring reprise.

Moreover, some of you are acting like Rachel Zegler wrote, directed, and produced the damn thing. Please use your brains and realize anything she said about the movie were talking points given to her by someone else, or were things hammered during the casting process, preproduction, production, and post production. This movie was announced in 2016, and Rachel wasn't cast until 2021. That's five years of creating the storyline and penning the songs. It's interesting that Lily James, Emma Watson, Naomi Scott, and Halle Bailey all said the same rhetoric about their respective movies, but yet Rachel Zegler is the one getting all the hate. While the original Snow White is a classic, please rewatch it if you haven't. It is boring and dated, and this new version is a vast improvement.

Lastly, just like Cinderella, Snow White is a simple fairy tale. The basics are evil queen, magic mirror, seven dwarfs, and poisoned apple. You need to flesh it out a bit to make a full length film. The 1937 version fleshed it out by adding a lot of scenes with the dwarfs. This new version expanded the storyline by giving us backstory, romance (yes, the love story is still here, including the kiss), and Snow White's determination to be the leader her parents taught her to be and taking her kingdom back from her interloping wicked stepmother. 

[MezzA101]

Posted: 3/25/25 at 1:22pm

Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Fiasco: Death Threats, Beefed-Up Security and a Social Media Guru for Rachel Zegler

 

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/snow-white-death-threats-zegler-social-media-guru-1236347433/

[joevitus]

Posted: 3/25/25 at 3:46pm

DAME said: "The movie is doing well this weekend ."

It was the worst opening weekend for a live-action adaptation since Dumbo. Also, it holds a 42% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. This is not "doing well."

[dramamama611]

Posted: 3/26/25 at 8:14am

Joevitus is spot on. Every report discusses the box office as a horrid flop.

 

It  may have been number one at the box office....but still underperformed by an awful lot.

 

Edited for egregious auto correct.

 

I don't care about any of the controversies, but I thought this looked gawd awful. Not that I was going even if it looked good . I'm long past caring about children's films. 

Updated On: 3/26/25 at 08:14 AM

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 3/26/25 at 5:08pm

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 3/26/25 at 10:29pm

Jonah sounds like an a-hole as does his father.  Did they also give Gal Gadot a good talking to for "getting political" with her pro-IDF BS?  

This movie failed because it wasn't very good and because people are sick of live action Disney movies.  Blaming a woman with opinions is typical behavior of people who won't look at themselves.  Also, if narcissism gives his daddy such a case of the pip, maybe dad and son might think about leaving show business. 

 

Updated On: 3/26/25 at 10:29 PM

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 3/27/25 at 12:09am

BrodyFosse123 said: ""

This is so embarassing. Yeah, the reason this movie failed was because she tweeted about Palestine and not because nobody was interested in a live action Snow White movie and he felt compelled to push through with it anyway. Like... can any movie executive ever for once in their life take responsibility for why a movie failed or is it always the movie or the star's fault? 

[QueenTwinnied]

Posted: 3/27/25 at 12:42am

Wow, I haven't heard the name Jonah Platt since seeing him struggle through the Wicked score almost ten years ago. What an embarrassing comment. A piece of work just like daddy who can apparently do everything except get Rachel Zegler to delete a tweet and make the untalented son's acting career happen. 

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 3/27/25 at 10:13am

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/snow-white-producer-son-blames-rachel-zegler-1236349351/

[jlindsey865]

Posted: 3/27/25 at 11:29am

I find the Platt family (while talented) to be incredibly insufferable.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 3/27/25 at 11:40am

Oh Jonah! I'm so sorry your Dad had to "leave his family" (like he has small kids and is deeeeeply struggling out there), get on his private jet, and accost a young woman who has a perfectly rational opinion? Nah. 

The reason Top Gun: Maverick or a David Mamet play is incredibly successful is that nobody cares about the personal lives of those involved. People just want to be entertained and think others have the right to have opinions, and practice whatever they believe. Wild concept. 

Your Daddy's movie failed because no one cares about live action anymore and someone approved these horrifying creatures that literally made my niece scream and throw her favorite stuffy across three aisles in the movie theater, which generated the biggest laugh of the entire film that day. Get a clue. 



 

 

[joevitus]

Posted: 3/27/25 at 12:42pm

I mean, her comments did likely do some damage, but the same goes for Gadot. There is no "safe" position to take on this issue, and that means either way, some people will reject the movie because of the political opinions of one of the two leads.

But obviously the biggest issue is just that it seems to be a terrible movie, and one few really wanted or needed, to begin with.

Updated On: 3/27/25 at 12:42 PM

[rosscoe(au)]

Posted: 3/27/25 at 1:48pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "https://variety.com/2025/film/news/snow-white-producer-son-blames-rachel-zegler-1236349351/"


My favorite line in that story is “His Two Episode Role” 

[Mskuphantm]

Posted: 3/28/25 at 12:08am

Just go see this.  Forget the so called backlash...forget even the questionable imdb rating..  this is far from a below 2 star rating on imdb. To me it ranges between a 5 and 7.5 depending on your nostalgia to the original.  The new songs, while not as fitting to the original(same problem I had with the added song in aladdin by the pasek and paul), they still sounded somewhat in the same world....for me Gal Gadot was miscast in this film from her singing to her acting..however.it is a fun treat to see even with the added plots and song.  Just go and forget the world and enjoy. 

Updated On: 3/28/25 at 12:08 AM

[joevitus]

Posted: 3/28/25 at 9:26am

Nah, I'm going to trust what most people are saying, but glad you had a good time.