The 74th Annual Tony Awards (2021) - News & Discussion Thread- Page 12

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/13/21 at 2:58pm

TaffyDavenport said: "Telecharge has some $1495 mezzanine seats available for the ceremony at the Winter Garden."

What?!?!

 

I'll go for $14.95!!

[jacobsnchz14]

Posted: 9/17/21 at 2:29pm

Looking forward to their performances.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Best-Musical-Nominees-Will-Perform-in-THE-TONY-AWARDS-PRESENT-BROADWAYS-BACK-Special-20210917

Posted: 9/17/21 at 2:44pm

TaffyDavenport said: "Telecharge has some $1495 mezzanine seats available for the ceremony at the Winter Garden."

I'm not sure I would pay this much even if the ticket guaranteed that I would receive a Tony.

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 9/17/21 at 3:58pm

jacobsnchz14 said: "Looking forward to their performances.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Best-Musical-Nominees-Will-Perform-in-THE-TONY-AWARDS-PRESENT-BROADWAYS-BACK-Special-20210917"

Hey BWW editors, maybe put "CBS" in the article so people know where to watch. 

[JSquared2]

Posted: 9/17/21 at 4:00pm

VintageSnarker said: "jacobsnchz14 said: "Looking forward to their performances.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Best-Musical-Nominees-Will-Perform-in-THE-TONY-AWARDS-PRESENT-BROADWAYS-BACK-Special-20210917"

Hey BWW editors, maybe put "CBS" in the article so people know where to watch."

I think anyone reading BWW will already know where to find the Tonys.

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 9/20/21 at 1:13pm

First wave of performers and presenters has been announced, and I think it's off to a good start on paper:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Lin-Manuel-Miranda-Idina-Menzel-Ben-Platt-Chita-Rivera-More-Will-Take-the-Stage-at-The-Tony-Awards-Present-Broadways-Back-20210920

Updated On: 9/20/21 at 01:13 PM

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 9/20/21 at 1:27pm

I am usually always SO excited for the Tony Awards. However, this year, I just... don't really care? I don't think that any of the 3 best musical nominees are particularly great. Tina is a typical jukebox musical with one really great performance from the leading lady, Jagged Little Pill is a half-baked mess that attempts to address every social issue under the sun, and Moulin Rouge!, while worthy of all the design and tech awards, left me cold even though it was entertaining. Sorry to be a Debbie downer, but I am just totally indifferent this year.

[jonartdesigns]

Posted: 9/20/21 at 2:14pm

I feel like this would be better if they had a number from each of the returning/ upcoming musicals. You know... what you can actually SEE on broadway?

[MadsonMelo]

Posted: 9/22/21 at 12:08pm

I'm sticking with ''Jagged Little Pill'' for Musical, Book, Featured Actress and Orchestrations. Then, ''Tina'' takes Actress and ''Moulin Rouge!'' will take the other 8 (?) awards.

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 9/22/21 at 12:14pm

MadsonMelo said: "I'm sticking with ''Jagged Little Pill'' for Musical, Book, Featured Actress and Orchestrations. Then, ''Tina'' takes Actress and ''Moulin Rouge!'' will take the other 8 (?) awards."

I will be disappointed if Jagged Little Pill wins. While Moulin Rouge is no prize either, JLP feels like a project done by a (very woke) tenth grader. Moulin Rouge has its flaws but it at least succeeds at its overall intention - to entertain. I predict Moulin Rouge will be the big winner with JLP only a threat for orchestrations, featured actress, and book (unfortunately). 

[Nolan LuPone]

Posted: 9/22/21 at 12:43pm

bwayphreak234 said: "I am usually always SO excited for the Tony Awards. However, this year, I just... don't really care? I don't think that any of the 3 best musical nominees are particularly great. Tinaisa typical jukebox musical with one really great performance from the leading lady, Jagged Little Pill is a half-baked mess that attempts to address every social issue under the sun, and Moulin Rouge!, while worthy of all the design and tech awards, left me cold even though it was entertaining. Sorry to be a Debbie downer, but I am just totally indifferentthis year."

Totally agree, I can't wait for the 2022 Tony Awards though.

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 9/22/21 at 12:49pm

Nolan LuPone said: "bwayphreak234 said: "I am usually always SO excited for the Tony Awards. However, this year, I just... don't really care? I don't think that any of the 3 best musical nominees are particularly great. Tinaisa typical jukebox musical with one really great performance from the leading lady, Jagged Little Pill is a half-baked mess that attempts to address every social issue under the sun, and Moulin Rouge!, while worthy of all the design and tech awards, left me cold even though it was entertaining. Sorry to be a Debbie downer, but I am just totally indifferentthis year."

Totally agree,I can't wait for the 2022 Tony Awards though."

I agree. I can't muster any enthusiasm. I'll be watching the winners update, but I won't be paying for Paramount +. The season was lackluster and so long ago. My trip to see shows for that season took place the week lockdown started, so I will be happy to have the 74th Tony season pass. 

No disrespect to those nominated and honored. I'm just not feeling it. 

I'm saving my free week of Paramount + for Madame X and Halloween Kills. 

 

 

Posted: 9/22/21 at 1:14pm

HenryTDobson said: "I predict Moulin Rouge will be the big winner with JLP only a threat for orchestrations, featured actress, and book (unfortunately)."

JLP winning book, which it probably will, will be such a stain for me on the Tony awards. JLP is not a good show, and the reason it's not a good show is specifically the book. The music is good, the actors are good. The book is terrible. It made no choices, it took no risks. It wanted to be an "issue" musical, so they included every issue. The characters have no space to become human; they're just vessels for whatever issue the show is tackling next. Even Jo, the role that's going to win Lauren Patten the Tony, is so underwritten that it has caused an actual controversy due to how muddled her characterization is. The plot, such as it is, is almost beat-for-beat Next to Normal (a show that actually deserved its book Tony). And beyond that the writing is just bad - the two performances I saw, the jokes fell flat and the audiences seemed catatonic until Patten crushes You Oughta Know. There is just nothing in this show's writing worth celebrating.

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 9/22/21 at 1:35pm

That’s how I feel about all the nominees in general. Like shows and people are going to win awards that would never win in a real Tony situation. Just kinda makes the whole thing “eh” for me. None of those 3 are BEST anything.

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 9/22/21 at 3:14pm

ctorres23 said: "HenryTDobson said: "I predict Moulin Rouge will be the big winner with JLP only a threat for orchestrations, featured actress, and book (unfortunately)."

JLP winning book, which it probably will, will be such a stain for me on the Tony awards. JLP is not a good show, and the reason it's not a good show isspecificallythe book. The music is good, the actors are good. The book is terrible. It made no choices, it took no risks. It wanted to be an "issue" musical, so they included every issue. The characters have no space to become human; they're just vessels for whatever issue the show is tackling next. Even Jo, the role that's going to win Lauren Patten the Tony, is so underwritten that it hascaused an actual controversy due to how muddled her characterization is. The plot, such as it is, is almost beat-for-beat Next to Normal(a show that actually deserved its book Tony). And beyond that the writing is just bad - the two performances I saw, the jokes fell flat and the audiences seemed catatonic until Patten crushes You Oughta Know. There is just nothing in this show's writing worth celebrating."

I agree 100%. I would honestly give book to Tina - it's not good by any means, but at least it's not actively bad like the other two. Sad how low the bar is for this abridged Tony Awards. 

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 9/22/21 at 3:57pm

SouthernCakes said: "That’s how I feel about all the nominees in general. Like shows and people are going to win awards that would never win in a real Tony situation. Just kinda makes the whole thing “eh” for me. None of those 3 are BEST anything."

I really liked Slave Play, but it being the most nominated play in Tony history seems like it happened based on the truncated season. Everything about the season just feels passive. I can relate to your "eh" feeling. 

 

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 9/22/21 at 4:24pm

HenryTDobson said: "I will be disappointed if Jagged Little Pill wins. While Moulin Rouge is no prize either, JLP feels like a project done by a (very woke) tenth grader. "

Worse. It's a woman in her 40's trying to sound like "a (very woke) tenth grader"

[EthelMae]

Posted: 9/24/21 at 12:37pm

After all we have all gone through and still go through, why should the announcements of the Tony nominees and winners be shown “exclusively “ on Paramount+, whatever that is. Nothing should be “exclusive” anymore. Put the entire show on TV, the way it was for decades. We all want to see it without signing up or signing up and then canceling. Put the awards and entertainment together. We want everyone to return to the theatre not just exclusively. 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 9/24/21 at 12:53pm

I wish they had the artistic merit to just not present a winner this season for certain categories. 

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 9/24/21 at 1:10pm

EthelMae said: "After all we have all gone through and still go through, why shouldthe announcements of the Tony nominees and winners be shown “exclusively “ on Paramount+, whatever that is."

While I get it about exclusivity… what’s with the allure of engaging in performative ignorance? Paramount+ has been around for years; it was previously known as CBS All Access.

[EthelMae]

Posted: 9/24/21 at 1:21pm

Haven’t posted here in a while but I might have known I’d be called ignorant on my return. Have a nice day.

[jonartdesigns]

Posted: 9/24/21 at 1:32pm

I haven't noticed this mentioned, but I got an e-mail invitation to attend the taping of Moulin Rouge's performance. No word on what they are doing, but it was filmed at the Hirschfeld earlier this week.

[JBroadway]

Posted: 9/24/21 at 1:39pm

These musical categories are a sad state of affairs. A stain on the Tonys credibility no matter who wins, but I agree a JLP win for book would be especially egregious. 

However - I know I'm not the first to say this, but I want to bring up again that the play categories are not so bad at all. The Best Play lineup would be respectable even in a normal year, and same goes for Lead Actor and Lead Actress in the plays. Not to mention the design categories for plays are also pretty solid. The Featured categories aren't as strong IMO, but oh well. 

[rbfost]

Posted: 9/24/21 at 2:54pm

Hello all, some possible context about the Paramount+ decision and how it figures into awards shows on television at this moment.
 

The Tonys haven’t happened since June 2019, obviously, so while the Emmys, Oscars, Grammys, even the MTV Video Music Awards have had a couple of tries during the pandemic, the Tonys have not. Being so far away from their usual date (early June) throws some wrenches into how they’re aired. CBS’s Sunday lineup during the fall is dominated by football games. Usually, the Tonys don’t interfere with that schedule, but with this September date, they do. The Tony Awards broadcast had become known for its very low ratings in recent years and there’s no indication that ratings will be significantly higher this time around…unless there’s a higher focus on performances.
 

The Grammys and VMAs have both been able to lift ratings by packing their broadcasts full of performances, the more famous, the better. Higher ratings are what’s going to keep the broadcast on television in any form. Both of these awards shows have done what the Tonys are doing now: presenting many of the awards separately. In fact, there’s a history (decades ago) of the Tony Awards presenting many of the awards on a separate PBS broadcast before the CBS one. The CBS portion (Broadway’s Back) is performance-focused, hopefully increasing ratings for folks who may want to watch at home, but have no opinion on/interest in whether The Sound Inside or Slave Play had the best sound design of a play. Splitting the broadcast up keeps it on television this year.

 

As for Paramount+, it’s one of the newer streaming services, yes, but ViacomCBS has put a lot of money into it and has placed a lot of prime programming onto the platform. The Good Fight continues to be a critical darling, RuPaul’s Drag Race All-Stars recently completed a hit season, even the Paw Patrol film was released there and in theaters at the same time. All on Paramount+. Splitting it up hopefully means that we get to see all of the awards presented in some form of broadcast and it means that we get to see any of this Tonys ceremony at all.

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 9/25/21 at 12:43am

Variety.com: Execs and Producers Explain Why CBS and Paramount Plus Expanded and Split This Year's Tony Awards

https://variety.com/2021/tv/awards/tony-awards-2021-cbs-paramount-plus-producers-1235073923/

Updated On: 9/25/21 at 12:43 AM