The 78th Annual Tony Award Nominations for 2025- Page 10

[BOM]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 8:35pm

MadsonMelo said: "BOM said: 'If it were up to me, Operation Mincemeat would receive the best score, best featured actor, and best book. I'm gonna assume its only getting featured actor."

With the lack of love that Mincemeat got, even Malone may be in trouble because they really like DEAD OUTLAW and Jeb Brown is basically a co-lead."

If I could bet on the Tonys like I do sports, I'd put a lot of money on Jak Malone.

[Huss417]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 8:49pm

It looks like the promo code for Maybe Happy Ending has been pulled. At least for the dates I was looking at.

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 9:01pm

It worked for me earlier today.

[Bobster159]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 9:01pm

MadsonMelo said: "BOM said: "If it were up to me, Operation Mincemeat would receive the best score, best featured actor, and best book. I'm gonna assume its only getting featured actor."

With the lack of love that Mincemeat got, even Malone may be in trouble because they really like DEAD OUTLAW and Jeb Brown is basically a co-lead."

I feel like every year, everyone needs a reminder that the nominators are a very different, far smaller group of people than the main voting body. Hell's Kitchen got 13 nominations last year and won only two (both performers). Slave Play got 12 nominations, won zero. There's a lot that can change over the next month. This year feels like a rare year where pretty much all the musicals and plays could potentially win their respective awards.

[Huss417]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 9:23pm

HeyMrMusic said: "It worked for me earlier today."

I tried three dates that had seats yesterday and now that I decided to purchase they are all back to regular prices. I really blew this one as I had a feeling this might happen. Glad you were able to get them. :)

[MadsonMelo]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 9:26pm

Bobster159 said: "MadsonMelo said: "BOM said: "If it were up to me, Operation Mincemeat would receive the best score, best featured actor, and best book. I'm gonna assume its only getting featured actor."

With the lack of love that Mincemeat got, even Malone may be in trouble because they really like DEAD OUTLAW and Jeb Brown is basically a co-lead."

I feel like every year, everyone needs a reminder that the nominators are a very different, far smaller group of people than the main voting body. Hell's Kitchen got 13 nominations last year and won only two (both performers). Slave Play got 12 nominations, won zero. There's a lot that can change over the next month. This year feels like a rare year where pretty much all the musicals and plays could potentiallywin their respective awards."

I don't need that reminder, like I got that. Yet, 'Operation' only got in for categories that felt like there is no way would be snubbed. Obviously got the Best Musical nom that helps Malone a lot and he does have a show stopping number, I only pointed out another path because we also would easily remind of ''front-runners'' weakened by the lack of support for their shows.

[NOWaWarning]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 9:53pm

I’m very, very satisfied with the Best Actress in a Musical line up. It’s a legendary category this year. I’m sad about Seiber. Was he in Featured or Lead?

[Mr. Wormwood]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 9:57pm

NOWaWarning said: "I’m very, very satisfied with the Best Actress in a Musical line up. It’s a legendary category this year. I’m sad about Seiber. Was he in Featured or Lead?"

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[Huss417]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 10:03pm

HeyMrMusic said: "It worked for me earlier today."

They are back up again. I wonder if Telecharge was doing an update of some sort.

[DanS3]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 10:47pm

CoffeeBreak said: "WiCkEDrOcKS said: "It's no longer the "little show that could". That's DEAD OUTLAW with its trajectory making its way upward monetarily and in word of mouth. Also MHE in NO WAY debuted on Broadway. It debuted in Seoul directed Kim Dong-yeon at Lifeway Hall. It had multiple Japanese performances. These productions were the guiding posts/visual "inspirations" - and visually similar, in many ways, to the Broadway production. A film was also made prior to the Broadway production. The Arden directed production happened after all of these productions ANDhis first at theAlliance in Atlanta - all before Broadway.

DEAD OUTLAW has had only one production, premiering off-Broadway a year ago, 2024 with original musical, book and cast all transferring to Broadway. The show has had only one single director, David Cromer and no other productions to draw from. It's the most original and now the little show that could."

 

Wow. Did someone from the production of MHE hurt your feelings or something? Every thread seems to include some swipe at the show from you. 

 

[bear88]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 11:11pm

I will defer to those with more knowledge of such things, but my operating theory is Maybe Happy Ending is the frontrunner, even though the Tony nominating committee showed a lot of love for Buena Vista Social Club and, to a lesser extent, Dead Outlaw and Death Becomes Her. 

The only sign of weakness Maybe Happy Ending showed was a lack of acting nominations outside of Darren Criss. But the nominating committee isn’t the same as the full Tony voting body. 

My theory of why Maybe Happy Ending will win is the lack of an obvious alternative that voters underwhelmed by MHE can agree on.

Buena Vista Social Club, which I didn’t see on my recent trip to New York City, was nominated for its book but even its biggest fans say the story isn’t the reason to see the show. More than a few critics describe it more as a concert. Even the special award it’s getting, for the band, emphasizes that point. The musical has been doing well at the box office and should do even better based on these nominations and word of mouth. The show actually seems like the most promising non-MHE  alternative.

Dead Outlaw is a critical favorite but I just don’t see the show emerging as a real contender. I think as many voters will find its nihilism off-putting even as others embrace its strengths. I have described the show as being as sentimental as barbed wire and that’s not meant as an insult. But that also will make it a hard musical for many Tony voters to embrace because its creators aren’t going for that anyway.

I haven’t seen Death Becomes Her, but it’s a comedy and a film adaptation and those types of musicals don’t win the top prize.

Operation Mincemeat is also a comedy, with one obvious exception. Jak Malone feels like a lock, but it’s hard to imagine it winning Best Musical.​​​​​​ 

Maybe Happy Ending is a traditional book musical that’s heartwarming and bittersweet, familiar but uniquely staged. In a year when voters may want to spread the wealth, it could lose in a bunch of major categories and still win Best Musical.

I’m probably wrong here. And it’s still early in the campaign. But please point out the flaws in my theory.

[DAME]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 11:16pm

I like your theory. 

[VotePeron]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 11:20pm

Mean Girls got like 12 nominations and won 0. Great Comet similar was like 1 win out of 14. 
 

I don’t see a world where Maybe Happy Ending loses. None of the other nominated musicals are loved enough to outweigh the commercial and industry embrace of MHE.

No import has won Best Musical in many, many years. DBH was the clear 5th slot out of Boop, Smash, RWHC, Swept Away. Dead Outlaw lost the goodwill from off-broadway in its prolonged transfer time.
 

BVSC is the biggest contender but it being a jukebox musical absolutely hurts its chances. 

Updated On: 5/1/25 at 11:20 PM

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 11:32pm

Wonder how long Redwood can stick it out? Not a huge cast and band, and Idina being a producer of it will probably be willing to drop her salary to minimum, but that tech can’t be cheap.

Not a question of recoupment at this point IMO, simply a question of how long it can limp.

This might be a show lost to time considering how tricky it will be to license.

[bear88]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 11:36pm

VotePeron said: "Mean Girls got like 12 nominations and won 0. Great Comet similar was like 1 win out of 14.


I don’t see a world where Maybe Happy Ending loses. None of the other nominated musicals are loved enough to outweigh the commercial and industry embrace of MHE.

No import has won Best Musical in many, many years. DBH was the clear 5th slot out of Boop, Smash, RWHC, Swept Away. Dead Outlaw lost the goodwill from off-broadway in its prolonged transfer time.


BVSC is the biggest contender but it being a jukebox musical absolutely hurts its chances."

I hadn’t even thought about the jukebox angle with Buena Vista Social Club. When is the last jukebox musical to win, outside of Moulin Rouge  in the pandemic year? It was Jersey Boys in 2005.

I just don’t see an alternative to Maybe Happy Ending.

But perhaps this year will break all the rules.

Updated On: 5/1/25 at 11:36 PM

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 11:43pm

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Wonder how long Redwood can stick it out? Not a huge cast and band, and Idina being a producer of it will probably be willing to drop her salary to minimum, but that tech can’t be cheap.

Not a question of recoupment at this point IMO, simply a question of how long it can limp.

This might be a show lost to time considering how tricky it will be to license."

It'll never be lost to time provided the cast album releases as planned... it might simply just be forgotten like many flops before.

[Kad]

Posted: 5/1/25 at 11:56pm

I think MHE is clearly the frontrunner: it has the reviews, the support, the narrative, and it even makes sense as a consensus pick. It's safe but has artistic and cultural cred. It's small but has production value. It's high concept but also comforting. It's traditional but off-kilter just enough. It's just sort of unobjectionable to everyone.  

I'm not as sure about its chances in Book, Score, or Direction. But Best Musical? It's really hard to see things falling another way right now.

Updated On: 5/1/25 at 11:56 PM

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 5/2/25 at 12:41am

Here are my very prelim opinions on winners in the musical fields. I think this will be a 2008 situation where a Revival wins the most awards and is the big story of the night. Meanwhile, a couple of new musicals split some big prizes — not dissimilar to 05 or 08.
 

MHE
Musical
Score
Scenic
 

MINCEMEAT
Book (which is also a way to honor its stars)
Feat Actor

 
BVSC

Choreo
Feat Actress 

 
SUNSET
Revival
Director
Actress
Actor
Lighting
Sound

DBH
Costumes
 

ORCHESTRATIONS is stumping me. It often correlates with score (MHE). It could also go to one of the jukebox shows, but the most likely one (BVSC) already won a special award for its band. Or, it gets swept up in the Sunset love. 

Updated On: 5/2/25 at 12:41 AM

[bear88]

Posted: 5/2/25 at 1:15am

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Here are my very prelim opinions on winners in the musical fields. I think this will be a 2008 situation where a Revival wins the most awards and is the big story of the night. Meanwhile, a couple of new musicals split some big prizes — not dissimilar to 05 or 08.


MHE
Musical
Score
Scenic


MINCEMEAT
Book (which is also a way to honor its stars)
Feat Actor


BVSC

Choreo
Feat Actress


SUNSET
Revival
Director
Actress
Actor
Lighting
Sound

DBH
Costumes


ORCHESTRATIONS is stumping me. It often correlates with score (MHE). It could also go to one of the jukebox shows, butthe most likely one (BVSC) already won a special award for its band. Or, it gets swept up in the Sunset love."

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The Tony nominations were the first clear indicator that Sunset Blvd. is the favorite for Best Revival, because Gypsy director George C. Wolfe was not nominated (suggesting the nomination committee found something lacking in the production even though three actors were nominated).

It’s entirely possible that carries over to Nicole Scherzinger too, even though Audra McDonald seems to be regarded as the best thing in Gypsy - which isn’t nothing. I certainly don’t have a sense of whether Sunset Blvd. is going to be as dominant at the Tony Awards as you’re suggesting. Even in the South Pacific year of 2008, it had to contend with the last revival of Gypsy. A sweep of that scale, bringing along Tom Francis as Best Actor in a very competitive field, would suggest voters feel like Jamie Lloyd has done something almost as revolutionary as Hamilton - or at least as revolutionary as one can be reviving an 1990s-era Andrew Lloyd Webber musical. 

Updated On: 5/2/25 at 01:15 AM

[binau]

Posted: 5/2/25 at 2:52am

Mmmm I agree a lack of 'Best Director' nom for George C Wolfe probably does highlight that there are people in the community who aren't fully buying the production......hard to know if it says anything about Nicole vs Audra because Audra's performance has very much transcended the production at this point, but I do have a sneaky suspicion that the Tony voters will be more like the grumpy Gypsy crowd because they have probably seen Gypsy a few times (hell, one voter even won a Tony for playing Rose herself - Patti LuPone!) whereas they would have never seen anything like this 'Sunset Boulevard' before. 

If Gypsy wasn't revived in 2003 and 2008, and had Patti not won a Tony for Rose, I think Audra's chances would be much higher. I think it's likely Nicole's year but with a very real chance it could go either way. 

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 5/2/25 at 3:07am

Am I the only one who feels the tides have turned in Darren Criss’ favor?

[TheatreMonkey]

Posted: 5/2/25 at 3:31am

While I know it's extremely rare, any possible chance of a tie in a category or two? It's been such a super season, and competitive, it just might happen...

[djoko84]

Posted: 5/2/25 at 3:50am

TotallyEffed said: "Am I the only one who feels the tides have turned in Darren Criss’ favor?"

They were always in his favor.

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 5/2/25 at 4:18am

djoko84 said: "TotallyEffed said: "Am I the only one who feels the tides have turned in Darren Criss’ favor?"

They were always in his favor."

 

Well, no. His show was on the brink of closing the same time Tom Francis had a lot of early momentum.

[inception]

Posted: 5/2/25 at 6:46am

What happened to all the talk about Groff doing a double?

I liked MHE a lot, & thought Criss could take it easily.  Francis was out when I saw Sunset.