Summer looks in bad shape. I was just checking their availability during pride weekend ( what should be their target audience) and it doesn't look good.
I thought all the performances - aside from maybe My Fair Lady and The Band's Visit - were awful. Mean Girls was dull and boring, no jokes. Spongebob was dumb. I don't know why they chose that song. I found the voice all irritating, the costumes cheap looking. Summer should have been fun but the choreography was really bland, and just nothing seemed exciting.
People overplay the significance of Tony performances on shows. MEAN GIRLS likely will continue to do very, very well for awhile, despite it's poor performance on the Tonys (which pretty much seemed like the quality of the show IMHO).
How they're selling is likely the better indicator. SPONGEBOB doesn't have long for this world and the Palace construction should provide a good cover. MY FAIR LADY is just fine; it didn't need the awards, but to contradict myself, folks seeing how Lauren can handle the score likely helped.
Apparently in the last week, Escape From Margaritaville just made 29% of it's potential gross. Is it possible for it close even earlier than it's already announced closing date?
DAME said: "Summer looks in bad shape. I was just checking their availability during pride weekend ( what should be their target audience) and it doesn't look good."
Kylie's in town, like anyone cares about Summer when that's a thing x
Spongebob for sure. Summer is gonna be fine for awhile. It's the hot Jukebox musical of the moment that caters to the tourists that don't know any of the other shows. It's a real shame because as much as I am pretty indifferent on the Spongebob personally, it's really one of the more creative pieces of this season in it's design and the risks it took. It deserved better last night but it seemed that Nickelodeon got the same "you don't belong here" cold shoulder that Disney got when they first started out. They will close up shop, convert the set to something that can travel and be on their way on a tour. It is better for them to take the show on the road to the people that want to see it then wait for them to show up to NYC.
I think we also need to remember Summer is playing the Lunt so if its grosses fall below $1 million the Neaderlanders will look for any reason to evict it to load in another mega-musical as they have done to The Little Mermaid for The Addam’s Family,The Addam’s Family for Finding Neverland, and Motown for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Especially since Summer is was given the theater as a filler production, due to the unexpectedly quick demise of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Danster said: "I wonder how long will My Fair Lady last."
The audience that was excited by My Fair Lady on the telecast last night will still buy their tickets to see the show, whether it won or not. I think My Fair Lady is a bigger title than The King and I, which ran 15 months. Unless unless LCT really wants to get a new show into the Beaumont for their subscribers next spring, I would expect MFL to run at least a year
Unlike The King and I, there are also more opportunities for star-replacement casting with Higgins/Mrs. H/Pickering/Doolittle. If Ambrose leaves when her contract is up they could always bring in a beloved Broadway star (i.e. Laura Osnes).
I give Carousel til Martin Luther King Day, and then Dreamgirls can open at the Imperial in the spring. I give Once On This Island til Labor Day.
Impossible2 said: "DAME said: "Summer looks in bad shape. I was just checking their availability during pride weekend ( what should be their target audience) and it doesn't look good."
Kylie's in town, like anyone cares about Summer when that's a thing x"
Kylie being there has nothing to do with anything .
DAME said: "Impossible2 said: "DAME said: "Summer looks in bad shape. I was just checking their availability during pride weekend ( what should be their target audience) and it doesn't look good."
Kylie's in town, like anyone cares about Summer when that's a thing x"
Kylie being there has nothing to do with anything ."
Impossible2 said: "DAME said: "Impossible2 said: "DAME said: "Summer looks in bad shape. I was just checking their availability during pride weekend ( what should be their target audience) and it doesn't look good."
Kylie's in town, like anyone cares about Summer when that's a thing x"
Kylie being there has nothing to do with anything ."
bdn223 said: "I think we also need to remember Summer is playing the Lunt so if its grosses fall below $1 million the Neaderlanders will look for any reason to evict it to load in another mega-musical as they have done to The Little Mermaid for The Addam’s Family,The Addam’s Family for Finding Neverland, and Motown for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Especially since Summer is was given the theater as a filler production, due to the unexpectedly quick demise of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory."
Three things played the Lunt-Fontanne between both The Addams Family and Finding Neverland, and between Motown and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I don't think either of those shows were evicted for the other.
Shows don't get kicked out for other shows to open- a large number of factors play in to how long a show runs for, and a potential new show for a theatre is not one of them. If producers make the call to close a show, that means that it is losing money, or actors are leaving, or a whole number of other things- no producer is going to axe their show so a new one can come in, especially if the new show is not produced by the same group of producers. If an incoming show needs a theatre, they'll either wait for one to open or they'll adapt to fit in an existing theatre. People love to claim that one show "closed" another, but this is objectively not true, and quite frankly is an argument I'm tired of seeing. Hello, Dolly isn't closing so that Mockingbird can move in, Charlie didn't close so that Summer could move in, and if Carousel closes it won't be so that Dreamgirls can move in- my point is that shows that open and close in the same theaters have no correlation to the length each other's run.
God, the almighty and all-knowing, has misplaced a cup?
Well, the theatre owners can apply pressure if they see an opportunity for a bigger hit. It's not the producers of Show A that decide to close in order for Show B to come in (unless we're talking about Disney because that has actually happened), it's the theatre owners applying a bit of pressure to the producers of Show A.
Anyway, I'm totally unsure about Summer, but Spongebob is out by Labor Day, considering they can use the construction of the Palace as an excuse for their closing. It softens the blow a bit.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
"Well, the theatre owners can apply pressure if they see an opportunity for a bigger hit. It's not the producers of Show A that decide to close in order for Show B to come in (unless we're talking about Disney because that has actually happened), it's the theatre owners applying a bit of pressure to the producers of Show A."
That's not how it works. The only pressure theater owners can apply is a stop clause.
ghostlight2 said: ""Well, the theatre owners can apply pressure if they see an opportunity for a bigger hit. It's not the producers of Show A that decide to close in order for Show B to come in (unless we're talking about Disney because that has actually happened), it's the theatre owners applying a bit of pressure to the producers of Show A."
That's not how it works. The only pressure theater owners can apply is a stop clause."
Which the Neaderlanders executed on The Little Mermaid, Addams Family, and Motown.
Correction* Motown was pushed out for Finding Neverland..