I'm also getting the distinct feeling that the line divide is between the older (and in several cases here) more professionally working posters being more tolerant, and that it's the younger ones who are so judgmental about it.
Blame Nancy Reagan and DARE. It's ruined my generation.
I do agree with everything you said though, mormonphobic. I first learned about the biased demonization of marijuana from a documentary on The History Channel. Unfortunately too many people have already been brainwashed by the propaganda (see: this thread) and short of forcibly getting them high to prove them wrong, I see no way of getting through their conservative mindset.
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My step mother said she would rather have me drink myself to sleep than smoke weed before I go to bed because, "Weed is a gateway drug".
I laughed and pointed to her medicine cabinet and told her, "And that stuff will kill you!"
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Hey y'all - it's the Original Poster again! Great Memorial Day weekend post! I've had a blast.
Did I mention it was my boyfriend's birthday the night of the Addams Family? I'm the pothead - he's not. But yeah, it was his birthday - oh - and I'm gay AND a pothead. And a Broadway musical lover. Go figure. And a performer. While I NEVER performed high (well .... once ... and I learned my lesson) - I would *LOVE* it if my friends would show up after a glass of wine ... maybe smoke some weed .... do whatever .... have fun ..... as long as it ain't hurting anyone else. Not ONCE during my four year run in a major NY production did I find it disrespectful if someone showed up to my performance under the influence of anything. I'm happy they just showed up at all! LOL.
And I "couldn't stomach the show" without it because of all the abysmal reviews. They were fairly accurate. The show was okay, but not great. I certainly don't think it deserved a standing ovation - but then again, The Little Mermaid got a standing O when I saw it in the same theater - aren't standing ovations overrated these days? Anyway ... I digress. Oh, and I WASN'T stoned for that one - I was with a 10-year old kid - I do have respect for SOME things. Again, I digress .... the ol' stoner mentality!
I love, support and "RESPECT" the theater and have been part of the theater community for many years - and sorry ... I like to get high. I'm laid back and easy going. People enjoy my company. You should be so lucky to be sitting next to me during a show. Maybe we'd be friends. Or maybe not! Sharon Jones & I had a great time sitting next to each other at Fela - oh - and I think I smoked pot before that show, too. No one complained that night! LOL!
I'm with Phyllis, I love this thread! And whoever offered brownies I'll take some, though I make some very delicious cupcakes and once even made guacamole...but that's neither here nor there I don't understand the argument that smoking means you aren't capable of giving the show its proper attention or whatever, that just goes back to misconceptions about weed itself. And I don't get how it's different for performers who smoke.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
The reason why I don't think that weed should be banned is as follows. I don't think that there has been good enough reason medically speaking to ban it and to make it against the law to have. I honestly feel that as far as health risks go it is not a gateway drug and that the risks are the same as smoking regular cigarettes.
However, pot, can alter the state of mind and there are people who either bug out while high sometimes without realizing it. I don't think that pot should be associated with the theatre because of that. And, before someone jumps down my throat let me say that I have nothing against weed. I've done it before but it is not something that I personally would do prior to going to the theatre.
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I didn't read all of the posts to this thread but this is my two cents:
Before you confront someone for something like texting in the theater, you shouldn't have something they can use against you. Imagine if you were doing something that was distracting to someone. If that particular person happened to smell like weed, you'd use that against him or her. I do think it was necessary that the texter be confronted. It just would have gone better if the confronter didn't smell of weed.
I am a smoker and a former frequent weed smoker, so of course I don't mind the smell of weed, and I do hate texters in theaters (movies and shows). With a passion. It is a form of inconsideration that surpasses almost all scents.
Actually, the myth that pot is harmless is now bunk. Due to manipulation done to intensify it, marijuana kills brain cells...with the very first smoke.
I understand the whole comparison to just a drink or two, and from that standpoint it's no different. Smoking pot doesn't automatically make you 'incapacitated'. Actors would only care on your state of being was a disturbance -- otherwise, how would they even KNOW?
To the original question: which is MORE wrong? Doesn't matter, both are wrong. There is no "more" involved. If the stench is bothersome to another audience member then its wrong to have light up before the show without taking care of the odor.
I've often complained to an usher about a texter -- but, in today's world, I wouldn't mention it myself.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Someone in Mezzanine Row C smelled like a walking meth lab on Sunday at La Cage. LOL. Oh and the guy on my left had a HUGE bulge (H*** O*) in his pants every time Nick Adams was on stage. It was very distracting, but when I asked him to resolve the bulge he said we'd have to go to the restroom. We did and we got arrested. Just kidding.
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I can't stand the smell of marijuana. It makes me cough (which would then annoy you and others in a theater), it gives me a migraine, and it makes me feel nauseous. It affects me more than cigarette smoke. And yes, it DOES take me completely out of the show because I can't enjoy myself. Normally, I never have to be around it for more than a few seconds, when I happen to catch a whiff while I'm walking somewhere, but if I had to sit next to it in an enclosed space for 2+ hours? I'd make sure to turn and vomit on you. It is INCREDIBLY rude and insensitive, not to mention selfish, to subject other people to that. Different people have different tolerance levels for the smell, sure, but you don't know who you'll be next to.
It's not about pearl-clutching or the "evils" or marijuana, and calling it that is just as overdramatic as calling it evil. You want to get high? Fine. I'm not going to lecture you. I just don't want to be forced to suffer because of your habit.
Also, pot smokers don't believe so because they can't smell it, but the smell really does hang around for a long time, in the air and on you. Not forever, as someone said, and I'm sure a shower would certainly help, but don't think that just because you smoked a joint thirty minutes ago that no one can smell it now.
Also, to the OP, who said that he saw a different show and this time smoked before getting on his train instead of right before going in to the theater, congratulations! You got into an even SMALLER, even MORE confined space reeking! Selfish asshole.
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Oy.. Phylliss.. I think that what is happening is that at a certain time of the day the posters here are from the 10 to 15 year old range. That is the only reason I can come up with for all this misinformation.
However, pot, can alter the state of mind and there are people who either bug out while high sometimes without realizing it.
So can many legal medications. I've been more messed up on Benadryl and prednisone used as directed than I ever was on pot.
Should we ban everyone on antidepressents too? That definitely alters your state of mind. So does Ritalin.
Which is worse- mind-altering Ritalin, or sitting next to someone who has ADHD for 2.5 hours while they're off their meds? I'd rather sit next to a stoned texter than unmedicated ADHD.
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knowing how
Orangeskittles, I have both a peanut allergy as well as a mood disorder and have been on some of the meds that you describe. And, let me add that I have tried pot more then once and pot does more to alter your state of mind then any of that which you listed. Benedryl just makes makes you tired and need to fall asleep ASAP.
Ritilan and other mood stabilizer meds (which I have been on, different ones at different times) don't alter your mind at all. And defiantly no where near the same degree as pot. So, you're basicially throwing out an apples V oranges debate.
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Half an ambien screws me up much more than smoking pot ever has and ever will, and that's another legal medication. DAME, I think you're theory is correct.
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Ritilan and other mood stabilizer meds (which I have been on, different ones at different times) don't alter your mind at all.
Then how do they stabilize your mood?
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"It's not about pearl-clutching or the "evils" or marijuana, and calling it that is just as overdramatic as calling it evil. You want to get high? Fine. I'm not going to lecture you. I just don't want to be forced to suffer because of your habit."
Seriously, yero? You really suffer and need to vomit because someone near you might have a left-over whiff of weed about them? Unless you have a serious, serious allergy, I'd call that pretty over-dramatic.
"DAME, I think you're theory is correct."
Actually, Ray, it was mine, but I'll share if Dame will.