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Do we see any of the Thoughts in A Strange Loop getting any nominations in the Featured categories?
RW3 said: "Do we see any of the Thoughts in A Strange Loop getting any nominations in the Featured categories?"
Maybe a nomination, but the awards are most likely going to Matt Doyle for Featured Actor and Patti LuPone for Featured Actress. I am more interested in seeing how competitive the leading actor categories are going to be.
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JBroadway said: "For example, they recently gave John Leguizamo a special Tony for his run of "Latin History for Morons," even though he was eligible for Best Actor and Best Play - and he even got nominated for the latter, despite also receiving the special Tony the same year!"
John Leguizamo didn't receive a special Tony specifically for Latin History for Morons though. It coincided with the year he did that on Broadway, but the award was for "his body of work and for his commitment to the theater, bringing diverse stories and audiences to Broadway for three decades." So that clearly included Latin History, but really was for a combination of 30 years of solo performances on and off Broadway (much more like a lifetime achievement award). So that's a lot different than giving a special Tony to a group of actors for one singular production which they're already eligible for.
^Right, but like, one can read between the lines. These special awards are seldom random - there's almost always some context that ties them to that particular season in an obvious way. It didn't COINCIDE with Latin History in a random way, it was observably instigated by it. I'm not saying the special award was FOR Latin History exclusively, but it was an alternative way of rewarding him for his continued good work, when they knew they weren't likely to give him a "career Tony" (in the colloquial sense) for Latin History itself.
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I can't imagine a world where John-Andrew Morrison doesn't win Supporting Actor in a Musical for A STRANGE LOOP.
Anyone guessing COMPANY will get three nominations in that category is definitely forgetting about the performances in A STRANGE LOOP, though I do hope Christopher Fitzgerald is nominated. His was probably my favorite performance from COMPANY.
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I don’t think anyone’s denying that, but like they said it’s because of decades of great work - both writing and performing - not just the one show, and that’s not truly comparable to these actors who would only be rewarded for just a single production.
Anyway with the prior talk of actors benefitting from strong material, I won’t deny that it can be more impressive for a performer to do more with little, but that doesn’t mean they should be written off just cause they had something great to work with. Doyle may have the luck of his number being amazingly staged, but he’s still performing a difficult song while adding in great vocals, a ton of laughs, and real emotion throughout. Also, he still does an excellent job outside the song, so it’s not like that’s where all the love is coming from.
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I thought Doyle did very, very little with what is a great comedic song. IMHO- Fitzgerald, Sieber and Elder are all giving more impressive performances.
Updated On: 3/23/22 at 10:51 AMBroadway Legend Joined: 4/30/16
Unpopular opinion, but count me among the Elder detractors. The only moments I find drag and are hard to sit through in this production are his scenes (+ PJ's in the park). Especially the scene in Bobbie's bedroom. All of the times (6) I've seen it, the audience's laughter peters out as the scene goes on. Think he gets a lot more credit for being great eye candy than his actual performance warrants. The comedic timing just isn't there for me whereas Fitzgerald, Sieber and Doyle's work is just plain funny.
ATerrifyingAndImposingFigure said: "I don’t think anyone’s denying that, but like they said it’s because of decades of great work - both writing and performing - not just the one show, and that’s not truly comparable to these actors who would only be rewarded for just a single production."
Sure, sure. Point taken. He definitely had that edge more than the Six women would - fair enough.
But I guess my broader point was: the Tonys will do basically whatever they want, in this regard. That they will award excellence where they see it, and competitive eligibility isn't NECESSARILY a barrier to receiving a special Tony, especially if the observable circumstances make it unlikely for the artist(s) to receive recognition through the competitive categories. (and again, the La Boheme award provides a pretty solid precedent, more so than Leguizamo).
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heybaby said: "I thought Doyle did very, very little with what is a great comedic song. IMHO- Fitzgeral, Sieber and Elder are all giving more impressive performances."
Totally agree. I would be very disappointed if Doyle wins the Tony. The song did all the work, he just managed to get all of the words out at a decent clip. I thought his comedy was VERY broad throughout the show - started at a 10 and had no where to go - and did not find his dramatic moments moving or authentic.
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I will be very surprised if John Andrew-Morrison doesn't pick up the win for Best Featured.
I truly can't remember any of the supporting performance in A Strange Loop, though I remember thinking that the whole thing was poorly directed by Stephen Bracket, which brought down the quality of all the performances.
Can anyone remind me what Andrew-Morrison did in the show? What his stand-out scenes were?
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I haven't seen ''Company'' yet, so I have no idea if Matt Doyle is really the front-runner (especially when there are other contenders on the horizon), but I don't know how you separate a performer from his song or his staging. Marianne Elliott directed Jonathan Bailey in the same role of Jamie, with, I'm assuming the same staging, and he got nominated for an Olivier Award and won.
Yes, Doyle's got a great song to sing, but that's no guarantee of a Tony nomination. Beth Howland, who originated the role of Amy and first sang ''Getting Married Today,'' didn't get one, and yet, Veanne Cox, in the 1995 revival, did. Time'll tell..
I think Bailey winning kind of proves the point that it's the production/song/staging and not the individual performance. I saw an early preview - so by all means take it with a grain of salt - but I was underwhelmed by his performance. I just thought there was so much more to bring to the part. He didn't build anywhere. But that's my opinion.
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To defend Matt Doyle a bit, I really do think his performance of the song is unlike any other. Yes, the staging helps add to the comedic element of the song, but I think it's in the way he shapes phrases within the song, where so many others just have it as a running stream of consciousness; his sentences each feel like separate thoughts. I don't think that element of it was quite there prepandemic, and I'm not sure how long it has been worked on, but that along with the following book scene really blew me away in terms of his performance. Of the other men in the show, I think my favorite would be Chris Seiber, but of the other shows so far this season, it really seems like Matt Doyle is the frontrunner to me. I could see potential competition from Robert Sella in Flying Over Sunset (though his performance was far less showy and also in a show that would be closed by the time voting happens) and maybe the middle Michael in MJ (but it seems like all eyes are on Myles Frost for that show).
Of course, there's a lot yet to open, and especially shows I'm not familiar with (how big is Ramin Karimloo's part in Funny Girl anyway?) and my friend who saw the first preview of Paradise Square mentioned Matt Doyle might have competition from that direction, but other members of this board have been mixed about it. But either way it should be an exciting season in just about all the acting categories (except featured actress I suppose, which we're all just assuming already has Patti's name on it, right?).
I also was one of the people surprised at the praise for Doyle? Don't get me wrong, he was great at singing the song and perfectly serviceable, but the true star in that number for me was the direction. I think a weaker actor than Doyle would've let that staging outshine them, but a stronger actor would've let it bolster them. Doyle really didn't do either for me, and his performance landed squarely above average, not quite nomination worthy.
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(''How big is Ramin Karimloo's part in Funny Girl anyway?)
Good question. In the 1964 original production, Nick Arnstein sings with Fanny Brice in only two songs: ''I Wanna Be Seen With You'' and ''You Are Woman.'' He has no solos. It's a thankless part, and yet Sydney Chaplin, who originated the role, got a Tony nomination for Leading Actor because he was billed with Barbra Streisand above the title. (Chaplin was also a former Tony winner.) For this revival, they're beefing up Nick's role to give Ramin Karimloo more to do. They're restoring ''Temporary Arrangement,'' a mediocre solo for Nick that was cut from the original, and turning ''Who Are You Now?'' into a duet for Nick and Fanny in Act II.
At any rate, Karimloo almost certainly will contend in Leading. Interestingly, ''Funny Girl'' is also giving above-the-title billing to Jared Grimes. That's odd because Grimes plays the supporting role of Eddie. (Danny Meehan, who originated the part, was a Tony nominee in Featured.) Grimes' co-stars have been raving about what a great tap dancer he is. I imagine the show will petition to put Grimes in Featured, so he doesn't go head-to-head with Karimloo, and Grimes would stand a much better shot to win in Featured and give Doyle a run for his money. For the record, I've seen Doyle in a number of shows and he's always impressed me. And I could say the same about his co-stars, like Claybourne Elder and Chris Sieber. What a ''Company.''
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We are all talking about the Tonys. But does anyone know if the Drama Desks are happening? There is no announcement at all. I'd hate to imagine they were done in by the pandemic.
I have actually grown to enjoy the Drama Desks more than the Tonys because it considers a more complete picture of the theatre in NYC, and they have interesting categories like Best Adaptation, Best Projection Design, and Best Stage Fighting.
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Does anyone know when Tony nominators tend to attend the shows? Is it closer to nomination time unless the show has announced closing, and then they would try to get in before it closes? Or do they go around opening? How does that timing work?
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GoldDerby.com takes a look at the Musical races at the Tonys.
GoldDerby.com pundits David Buchanan and Sam Eckmann tackle topics, like: Will Best Musical be a ''smackdown'' between ''A Strange Loop'' and ''Six''? Which 3 of the 4 musical revivals are likeliest to be nominated? And can anyone beat Patti LuPone (''Company'' ) for Featured Actress?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hb7juZSlIY
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I do wonder if with those really great reviews, can SJP get nominated even being, apparently, the only highlight alongside the set?
Best Performance by a Leading Actress in a Musical:
Sharon D. Clark, Carmen Cusack, Sutton Foster, Joaquina Kalukango and Katrina Lenk.
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My predictions for nominations in the musical acting categories (in order of likelihood of winning, in my humble opinion):
BEST ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL
1. Sharon D. Clarke - Caroline, or Change
2. Katrina Lenk - Company
3. Joaquina Kalukango - Paradise Square
4. Sutton Foster - The Music Man
5. Beanie Feldstein - Funny Girl
DARK HORSE #1: Carmen Cusack - Flying Over Sunset
DARK HORSE #2: Mare Winningham - Girl From the North Country
BEST ACTOR IN A MUSICAL
1. Jaquel Spivey - A Strange Loop
2. Hugh Jackman - The Music Man
3. Rob McClure - Mrs. Doubtfire
4. Billy Crystal - Mr. Saturday Night
5. Myles Frost - MJ The Musical
DARK HORSE: Ramin Karimloo - Funny Girl
BEST FEATURED ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL
1. Patti LuPone - Company
2. Jennifer Simard - Company
3. Caissie Levy - Caroline, or Change
4. Jane Lynch - Funny Girl
5. Samantha Williams - Caroline, or Change
BEST FEATURED ACTOR IN A MUSICAL
1. Matt Doyle - Company
2. Claybourne Elder - Company
3. Christopher Sieber - Company
4. Christopher Fitzgerald - Company
5. David Paymer - Mr. Saturday Night
DARK HORSE: Marc Kudisch - Girl From the North Country
And then, just for fun, my predictions for lead categories in a play:
BEST ACTRESS IN A PLAY
1. Mary-Louise Parker - How I Learned to Drive
2. Deidre O’Connell - Dana H.
3. LaChanze - Trouble in Mind
4. Ruth Negga - Macbeth
5. Honestly really not sure here - could go to Ebony Marshall-Oliver, SJP, maybe someone in The Skin of Our Teeth, Debra Messing?
BEST ACTOR IN A PLAY (What a dense category this year!)
1. David Morse - How I Learned to Drive
2. Adam Godley - The Lehman Trilogy
3. Simon Russell Beale - The Lehman Trilogy
4. Adrian Lester - The Lehman Trilogy
5. Daniel Craig - Macbeth
DARK HORSE #1: Laurence Fishburne - American Buffalo
DARK HORSE #2: David Threlfall - Hangmen
DARK HORSE #3: Ruben Santiago-Hudson - Lackawanna Blues
I wonder if Jane Houdyshell gets nominated for Music Man and I wouldn't want to see Claybourne Elder nominated, but I think your list is pretty spot on besides that!
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