Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/12/22- Page 2

[David10086]

Posted: 6/14/22 at 9:34pm

quizking101 said: "Blair Brown, Cliff Chamberlain, Tracy Letts, K. Todd Freeman, Sally Murphy, AND Austin Pendleton are all out of THE MINUTES tonight.

For an 11-person play, that's a big YIKES!"

For an 11 person play, that's half the cast ! Why bother going on ? 

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 6/14/22 at 11:20pm

Bettyboy72 said: "gibsons2 said: "With the steady grosses decline, is Company in trouble?..."

We shall see. LuPone and Doyle won’t sell any tickets. Gypsy closed early even LuPone, Benanti and Gaines wins. The folks that wanted to see Patti already have. The best revival win might bump grosses for a few weeks. Unless they announce some starry replacements I say it lasts until the end of summer. Company isn’t an easy sell. Gypsy is far more beloved.

The lackluster cramped Tony number won’t sell any tickets. Should have let Simard perform.

"

I agree with the point here, but didn't Gypsy run through January following the Tonys, and close with a spate of other shows due to the total collapse of the economy at the end of 2008? Feels like a poor analogy, though I do agree 1000% that LuPone/Doyle wins (nor that boring performance) isnt going to sell tickets.

[Bill Snibson]

Posted: 6/14/22 at 11:35pm

Bettyboy72 said: "gibsons2 said: "With the steady grosses decline, is Company in trouble?..."

We shall see. LuPone and Doyle won’t sell any tickets. Gypsy closed early even LuPone, Benanti and Gaines wins. The folks that wanted to see Patti already have. The best revival win might bump grosses for a few weeks. Unless they announce some starry replacements I say it lasts until the end of summer. Company isn’t an easy sell. Gypsy is far more beloved.

The lackluster cramped Tony number won’t sell any tickets. Should have let Simard perform.

Let Simard perform what? Jujitsu? Her scene? What are you actually talking about?

[JBroadway]

Posted: 6/14/22 at 11:38pm

David10086 said: "Why bother going on ?"

 

For the same reasons any show makes use of the understudies they have...so the audience can see the play, and so the producers don't have to give refunds.

 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 6/15/22 at 12:06am

For those (myself included) who thought PARADISE SQUARE could pick up some steam after that great performance: it appears to be papering again.

[bear88]

Posted: 6/15/22 at 12:27am

My daughter's experience last week while traveling solo:

-- A Strange Loop: got one of the last available at the TKTS booth after a cross country flight on a Tuesday ($71.25, as I recall)

-- Company: In person-rush, easy to get an excellent middle orchestra seat for $79. Great for her, and it was her favorite show of the trip, but her ease of ticket acquisition probably doesn't bode well.

-- Take Me Out: She tried for a ticket, but the prices got very high in the final week and she didn't win the lottery.

-- Little Shop of Horrors. Small theater, packed house. She got the last seat. $81 and the Telecharge fee.

-- Six. Packed house on a Friday night. Just bought the tickets in advance so she could do other stuff that day and not worry about getting a ticket.

I honestly wonder whether the Tonys will help any show that needs it. Six probably sold tickets for their upcoming tours. Company appears to be winding down, despite all of its wins. A Strange Loop just doesn't seem like the sort of musical that will suddenly draw large audiences. I hope I'm wrong. 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 6/15/22 at 12:28am

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "For those (myself included) who thought PARADISE SQUARE could pick up some steam after that great performance: it appears to be papering again."

What they did on the Tonys is the same thing they did with this show. They piled up way too many people on stage at the same time and had them doing way too many things. And then they let Joaquina do her magnificent thing. But the rest was a jumble, even more of a disorganized mess than it is on stage, and that does not sell tickets. This is what Garth has never understood. More is not better. Longer is not better. KISS applies in the theatre too. And it looks like they will just keep papering on. 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 6/15/22 at 1:02am

HogansHero said: "KISS applies in the theatre too."

Keep It Simple, Stupid, Of The Spider Woman

[tomwsjr]

Posted: 6/15/22 at 6:06am

Why do performers call out right after the Tony Awards?

[OhHiii]

Posted: 6/15/22 at 6:31am

tomwsjr said: "Why do performers call out right after the Tony Awards?"

Because the period between April and the Tonys is a dead level run for anyone involved and that’s just the press circuit. On top of 8 shows a week. They also have multiple additional Tony camera blocking rehearsals leading up to the night. It’s a slog.

I saw Patti’s Lincoln Center benefit in May, and she was already showing her exhaustion both vocally and charismatically.

Though, I have a feeling in the next couple days we’re going to be hearing about COVID cases again. Hugh testing positive (a test he could very well have taken on the Sunday before getting results back on Monday) may be the canary in the coal mine of Sunday’s generally maskless evening. 

[leefowler]

Posted: 6/15/22 at 10:55am

If there’s a super spreader event because of the Tonys, it won’t be because the audience was unmasked. It will be because the performers on stage were unmasked. Watching Hugh perform, hours away from being diagnosed with Covid, means basically the entire cast of Music Man was exposed, not to mention everyone the cast of Music Man was hanging out with that night.

Assuming the Tony awards were rehearsed like every show I’ve been working on lately, I assume that everyone at rehearsal was wearing masks. But I’m not sure why that would be effective, when at the end of the day they’re going to be performing without masks.

[chrishuyen]

Posted: 6/16/22 at 1:20am

Historically, how long does it take to show a bump in grosses due to Tonys?  I imagine there's some movement immediately (I think ASL has a couple of sold out shows this week), but I figure a larger bump probably wouldn't happen for a couple weeks or so, so that people can plan trips and everything.

[OhHiii]

Posted: 6/16/22 at 7:26am

leefowler said: "If there’s a super spreader event because of the Tonys, it won’t be because the audience was unmasked. It will be because the performers on stage were unmasked. Watching Hugh perform, hours away from being diagnosed with Covid, means basically the entire cast of Music Man was exposed, not to mention everyone the cast of Music Man was hanging out with that night.

Assuming the Tony awards were rehearsed like every show I’ve been working on lately, I assume that everyone at rehearsal was wearing masks. But I’m not sure why that would be effective, when at the end of the day they’re going to be performing without masks."

…what are you even talking about? 

[bwaylyric]

Posted: 6/16/22 at 11:19am

With Paradise Square losing $$$$$ every week, has the cast been getting paid?  And if so, where does the money come from?

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 6/16/22 at 11:27am

Either Garth is somehow getting investors to pitch in a bit more or he’s taking out loans. 

and yes the cast does get paid the cast wouldn’t perform if they weren’t getting paid.

[Jarethan]

Posted: 6/16/22 at 11:39am

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "For those (myself included) who thought PARADISE SQUARE could pick up some steam after that great performance: it appears to be papering again."

This was a week not to see the people you wanted to see.  We had tickets to MM, got a refund -- only seeing it because of HJ; went to see Company, Lupone out; stayed and loved the show, although I really missed Lupone.  Got tickets to Paradise Square ONLY because of JK.  Got to the theatre last night...she was out.  The line for refunds was very long.  I imagine anyone buying tickets just to see her were on that line.  

We ended up seeing POTUS and really enjoyed it.  Orchestra was 90% filled and the mezzanine also looked well filled. 

Is it possible that Paradise Square has stayed open as long as it has to spur interest in regional theatres performing it in the years to come?  

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 6/16/22 at 11:41am

chrishuyen said: "Historically, how long does it take to show a bump in grosses due to Tonys? I imagine there's some movement immediately (I think ASL has a couple of sold out shows this week), but I figure a larger bump probably wouldn't happen for a couple weeks or so, so that people can plan trips and everything."

A STRANGE LOOP should have seen a good bump in its wrap overnight from Sunday-Monday, continuing (to an extent) this week and settling at a new, higher average. This week's numbers should be up, with a further increase next week. It's hard to predict where its numbers will ultimately settle, or if it will ever crack $1M per week.

As for PARADISE SQUARE, some passionate/foolish investor (or group of investors) have obviously been pouring money into the production since right after it opened to keep it afloat. If this show didn't get a Best Musical nomination, there's no world in which it would have continued performances into June.

Updated On: 6/16/22 at 11:41 AM

[ACL2006]

Posted: 6/16/22 at 11:56am

bwaylyric said: "With Paradise Square losing $$$$$ every week, has the cast been getting paid? And if so, where does the money come from?"

The cast and crew are definitely getting paid. That's what the unions are for.

[OhHiii]

Posted: 6/16/22 at 11:58am

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "A STRANGE LOOP should have seen a good bump in its wrap overnight from Sunday-Monday, continuing (to an extent) this week and settling at a new, higher average. This week's numbers should be up, with a further increase next week.It's hard to predict where its numbers will ultimately settle, or if it will ever crack $1M per week."

It would be difficult for any show int he Lyceum to approach $1M per week just given the economics of having a small Orchestra where they can ask higher prices for premium seats. That's really where the money is made in the week because they're the last seats released for sale (company comps, theater owner holds, etc. get released typically 2-4 weeks out from a performance). 

[quizking101]

Posted: 6/17/22 at 9:36pm

OhHiii said: "ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "A STRANGE LOOP should have seen a good bump in its wrap overnight from Sunday-Monday, continuing (to an extent) this week and settling at a new, higher average. This week's numbers should be up, with a further increase next week.It's hard to predict where its numbers will ultimately settle, or if it will ever crack $1M per week."

It would be difficult for any show int he Lyceum to approach $1M per week just given the economics of having a small Orchestra where they can ask higher prices for premium seats. That's really where the money is made in the week because they're the last seats released for sale (company comps, theater owner holds, etc. get released typically 2-4 weeks out from a performance)."

Tough, but doesn't seem entirely implausible. The house record as of right now is held by the Mulaney/Kroll show OH, HELLO at $901K (in 2017 during NYE week). The highest for a musical so far has been BE MORE CHILL at roughly $760K (right before they got bagged during Tony noms and it started to fall off).

Going back to the beginning of the theatre's history, this is the first time a Tony Award-winning Best Musical has played in the Lyceum's history, and it's slowly been revving upward since the Tony nominations so I think it has a strong shot of breaking the house record, if not $1 Million. According to my math, the average ticket price would have to reach $135.57 at a sold-out 8 performance minimum to crack it.

I do however commend the production for how they are staggering the ticket prices, thereby increasing accessibility,
AND being honest about vantage points - charging less for seats that may be considered partial view. I wish more shows would do this instead of going right for the greed.

[apetricc12]

Posted: 6/20/22 at 3:16pm

I know this is a rather dumb quetion, but do Broadway grosses run from Tuesday through Sunday? It seems like that if these current ones end on 6/12, but does that include both Sundays or just 6/12?

Thank you.

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 6/20/22 at 3:21pm

apetricc12 said: "I know this is a rather dumb quetion, but do Broadway grosses run from Tuesday through Sunday? It seems like that if these current ones end on 6/12, but does that include both Sundays or just 6/12?

Thank you."

Weekly grosses run from Monday through Sunday. In this thread, we have been discussing the info released for 6/6 thru 6/12. 
Also, grosses are typically released on Tuesdays late in the afternoon, so hang tight for a 6/13 thru 6/19 recap. 

[apetricc12]

Posted: 6/20/22 at 3:41pm

Thank you for the information.