Our group sadly decided to cancel for this weekend. We've rebooked our seats for Company for April. Under normal circumstances, we would have gone, but with Christmas this week, if any of us are exposed, we're screwed for the holiday and won't be able to be with our families. We are keeping our end of January trip where we have our Music Man tickets, and hopefully that will work out okay. Bummed, but it is what it is.
Just had to cancel plans - had radio city and Phantom tickets for the 20th/21st. Normally I would go, but with christmas coming up I had a couple nervous friends with older relatives & other friends who were going home to outbreaks in their families. Thought it was best to play it safe for the whole trip. My heart goes out to everyone who's affected by this - be it us normal theater-goers or people in the industry. I hope everyone does their best to stay safe, but man - I just want my broadway to be back
Kad said: "A second sustained shutdown would be ruinous to even the shows that have been managing to keep their heads above water."
Uncertainty is the ruinous element. What is needed rn and asap is a clear sustainable protocol. What is not needed is a marketing person misleading the public. And that's exactly what we got this afternoon. Only 4 closed shows!!!! Oh wait, 5, 6, 7 ... As I said before, we are probably looking at a fixed hiatus, generally but not necessarily universally, hopefully not before New Years, and with a reasonable end date like March 1. Trying to run through this current crisis - unless someone can figure out how to slow it down significantly - is going to kill more shows than anything. I think we have to accept the fact that we are going to lose 2/3 of the current shows, and work our way back. I don't think any show heavily dependent on tourists can expect to run through this winter of our discontent.
Of course, anything could change, but for the time being, this is a relief to see."
Thanks for sharing this. I had to cancel my trip, but the only thing that would cause me more anxiety & depression than missing my shows is the whole industry shutting down again.
Sorry to everyone here who has been affected by this mess. I am so sick of COVID & I can't wait till we all have theater back.
This all seems pretty ridiculous. To the vaccinated, this is essentially a milder version of the flu and at this point we should be treating it as such. I mean, the shows require vax cards so basically everyone is protected. Is this is a Union thing? If so, they should revise the policies before the industry gets walloped at the busiest time of the year.
Boonanas, but it still spreads quickly and you shouldn’t go to work with a mild case of the flu or a fever (I’ve heard of many who have tested positive and have exhibited symptoms like fever). With actors and some musicians having to work unmasked, the actors’ and musicians’ union should be protecting their workers from a fast-spreading disease like covid. I know “out of an abundance of safety” is a phrase thrown around a lot lately, but I’m not sure you understand how close quarters are backstage, in pits, etc. and then how fast covid can spread in a company. There are very little ways to socially distance, and shows certainly aren’t staged to be masked or socially distant. I feel like I’m not being eloquent, but I just find your post so ignorant. No one should knowingly risk their safety at work.
BJR said: "Why the hell would you notify the public if someone tested positive? "
To be clear, HIPAA law does not allow for disclosing anyone's test results (by name), either publicly or to privately (i.e., to an employer). A venue can however, report anonymous *numbers* of positive cases. That information can be useful to the public when deciding whether/not to attend a function, or visit a venue.
A friend is at Company and just texted that the show paused in the middle of the opening number. Not much else is known, it could just be a problem with the set.
Friends are at Company and 8 minutes in they puled the curtain and asked the cast to leave the stage. You can ad it to the quickly growing list of canceled shows.
Ironically they had Hamilton tickets for tonight … bad luck for them.
So, clearly nothing was accomplished at the meeting today because they are stupidly taking tests like 30 minutes before showtime, seating everyone and then stopping?
sppunk said: "Friends are at Company and 8 minutes in they puled the curtain and asked the cast to leave the stage. You can ad it to the quickly growing list of canceled shows.
Ironically they had Hamilton tickets for tonight … bad luck for them. "
8 minutes in.. as in the show started and then they cancelled after the show started. Wow, this is getting out of hand. There really needs to be something in place so people know an hour before the show if the show is happened or not.
Company has had lots of technical problems. Hoping against hope that’s what it is.
"This table, he is over one hundred years old. If I could, I would take an old gramophone needle and run it along the surface of the wood. To hear the music of the voices. All that was said." - Doug Wright, I Am My Own Wife
"To be clear, HIPAA law does not allow for disclosing anyone's test results (by name), either publicly or to privately (i.e., to an employer). "
Kind of.
People overstate what HIPAA does all the time. (Looking at you, freak show congresswoman from north Georgia.) HIPAA only restricts disclosure by a SPECIFIED group of health care practitioners/entities. If you told me your covid status and i tweeted it, i *might* run afoul of state privacy laws, but not HIPAA.
adotburr said: "sppunk said: "Friends are at Company and 8 minutes in they puled the curtain and asked the cast to leave the stage. You can ad it to the quickly growing list of canceled shows.
Ironically they had Hamilton tickets for tonight … bad luck for them. "
8 minutes in.. as in the show started and then they cancelled after the show started. Wow, this is getting out of hand. There really needs to be something in place so people know an hour before the show if the show is happened or not."
frogs_fan85 said: "A friend is at Company and just texted that the show paused in the middle of the opening number. Not much else is known, it could just be a problem with the set."
Further update, it sounds like a cast member may have an illness (presumably non-COVID?) and they are getting an understudy into costume.
TaffyDavenport said: "adotburr said: "sppunk said: "Friends are at Company and 8 minutes in they puled the curtain and asked the cast to leave the stage. You can ad it to the quickly growing list of canceled shows.
Ironically they had Hamilton tickets for tonight … bad luck for them. "
8 minutes in.. as in the show started and then they cancelled after the show started. Wow, this is getting out of hand. There really needs to be something in place so people know an hour before the show if the show is happened or not."
No one said the show was cancelled, yet."
This is right - my friend said Patti came out and entertained them for 12 minutes.
She told them it was an illness of a cast member. Shiv hasn’t restarted as of 2 mins ago.
whatever2 said: ""To be clear, HIPAA law does not allow for disclosing anyone's test results (by name), either publicly or to privately (i.e., to an employer). "
Kind of.
People overstate what HIPAA does all the time. (Looking at you, freak show congresswoman from north Georgia.) HIPAA only restricts disclosure by a SPECIFIED group of health care practitioners/entities. If you told me your covid status and i tweeted it, i *might* run afoul of state privacy laws, but not HIPAA.
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I believe too if your employer asks you to disclose vaccination status, it doesn’t not violate HIPAA since you are telling your own medical business. But, if the employee then distributed who’s been vaccinated to the public, the employer is then violating HIPAA. This is how businesses are taking advantage of the loophole- by offering an cash incentive to get vaccinated. So if public records are requested, it will show who received the cash incentive which implies those employees are vaccinated without saying it.
"I believe too if your employer asks you to disclose vaccination status, it doesn’t not violate HIPAA since you are telling your own medical business. But, if the employee then distributed who’s been vaccinated to the public, the employer is then violating HIPAA. This is how businesses are taking advantage of the loophole- by offering an cash incentive to get vaccinated. So if public records are requested, it will show who received the cash incentive which implies those employees are vaccinated without saying it. "
from the website of a white shoe law fiirm:
It is a common misconception that the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) applies to employee health information. In fact, HIPAA generally does not apply to employee health information maintained by an employer.
HIPAA applies only to “covered entities,” which are defined as: (1) health plans; (2) healthcare clearinghouses; and (3) healthcare providers that electronically transmit certain health information (and certain “business associates” of covered entities). If an employer does not fall into one of those categories, HIPAA does not apply to it at all. Indeed, even if an employer is a “covered entity,” HIPAA still does not apply to health information contained “in employment records held by a covered entity in its role as an employer.” So even for those employers, although HIPAA may apply to health information they acquire in their capacities as covered entities, it does not apply to health information they acquire in their roles as employers.
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so: maybe, but not often. the law really only restricts a narrow class of entites.
frogs_fan85 said: "frogs_fan85 said: "A friend is at Company and just texted that the show paused in the middle of the opening number. Not much else is known, it could just be a problem with the set."
Further update, it sounds like a cast member may have an illness (presumably non-COVID?) and they are getting an understudy into costume."
And now the show is officially cancelled. The announcement was food poisoning apparently. Are the understudies not rehearsed yet or something?
ljay889 said: "Several understudies have been on already. This is very odd."
Yeah, it makes no sense that they would cancel eight minutes into the show for food poisoning. I don't want to be fear mongering, but it really seems more likely that they got the results a little after showtime & decided to call the whole thing off when they saw a positive test. I hope that isn't it, but jeez Louise.
It is so stupidly depressing to see show after show dropping like flies.
frogs_fan85 said: "frogs_fan85 said: "frogs_fan85 said: "A friend is at Company and just texted that the show paused in the middle of the opening number. Not much else is known, it could just be a problem with the set."
Further update, it sounds like a cast member may have an illness (presumably non-COVID?) and they are getting an understudy into costume."
And now the show is officially cancelled. The announcement was food poisoning apparently.”
At least it isn’t you-know-what. Speedy recovery to whoever is feeling ill.