A Broadway shutdown would be damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Maybe a controlled hiatus would at least provide some certainty because who in their right mind would buy tickets to a Broadway show right now? It’s just so sad to see
HogansHero said: "kidmanboy said: "I really feel for the entire community and city. But I’m also not sure what new Broadway leadership should/would do. Each production is a separate business. If some are able to still operate safely and keep people employed, why shouldn’t they be running? A full on Broadway closure may mean some of the shows that are making it through this week would close for good and even more people would be unemployed. There’s not really a good answer here - this just all sucks."
First, as I say in another post, I don't think plowing through is going to be viable, whether it is because folks are not healthy or because there is simply not going to be enough audience. Secondly, I think pushing through will do more damage than a having a controlled hiatus, based on understandings between all of the parties. (That's what leadership could do, if we had some.) No one will gain by losing a ton of money over the next month or two, and shows that might survive a hiatus might not survive that. (All of that said, I still stand by my expectation that we will have around a dozen or so shows still standing on 3/1/22.0"
Look at it this way: at least we’ll have some brand-new shows and revivals to complement most of the mainstays throughout the 2022-23 season!
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
adotburr said: "Example- I had covid in October 2020 and did not pass it to anyone. My household got tested and everyone was negative."
That's not how it works. If you had it, you were contagious. Just because no one else tested positive (which could have been a false negative) doesn't mean they weren't at risk (and even if another member of your household tested positive, it would not mean it necessarily came from you). A recent study showed that there was a 32% chance of same household infection.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
VotePeron said: "spinningcircles said: "If we’re operating under the assumption that they’re testing their company every day over at The Music Man (which, God help us, I hope they are, by now), the intention of doing so is that you catch Omicron so early on in infection that you are not yet infectious yourself. If Sutton was tested on a Tuesday, let’s say, and was negative, her test that she took on Wednesday might’ve come up positive, but she was not infected long enough for the virus to have gained a large enough count to pass on to Hugh during performances that day (knock wood)."
What research are you citing that there is possibly a world where you test positive and are not contagious?"
None, because it's not true. According to the CDC, "A person with COVID-19 is considered infectious starting 2 days before they develop symptoms, or 2 days before the date of their positive test if they do not have symptoms."
So you can be infectious before even testing positive.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
spinningcircles said: "I’m just passing along information I’ve learned from the experience I’m having working in a Broadway theatre and testing daily. The COVID Safety teams have been an extraordinary asset to us (at our theatre, at least). I’m in no way a medical professional, nor do I claim much independent research."
I would also like to point out that these covid safety teams are also not medical professionals (many, if not most, work in theater industry in some way, be it stage managers, ushers, actors, wranglers, etc.). They are simply there to enforce the covid safety policies.
binau said: "A Broadway shutdown would be damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Maybe a controlled hiatus would at least provide some certainty because who in their right mind would buy tickets to a Broadway show right now? It’s just so sad to see "
Alot of folks wanting to see Bk/Mormon on 12/26 mat and eve. Surprised to see majority of seats sold. Wondering if folks are buying whatever show they can get because so many have temporarily turned off lights.
7 shows scheduled for tonight including TINA's return. Let's see how many happen. COME FROM AWAY & MOULIN ROUGE set to return tomorrow.
ACL2006 said: "7 shows scheduled for tonight including TINA's return. Let's see how many happen. COME FROM AWAY & MOULIN ROUGE set to return tomorrow."
I don't think Tina has performed since the 14th. I'd imagine they're getting some much-needed ammo back if those that fell ill on the 15th are feeling okay and are no longer contagious now.
TINA just tweeted out that they are indeed back tonight and shared their Christmas week schedule.
https://twitter.com/TinaBroadway/status/1474776597185982465?t=w71bYgMdUR40H9cBMhBoNw&s=19
So happy to hear good news for a change! Congrats to Tina and I hope they safely continue their run with a healthy holiday week back.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/7/18
JayElle said: "binau said: "A Broadway shutdown would be damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Maybe a controlled hiatus would at least provide some certainty because who in their right mind would buy tickets to a Broadway show right now? It’s just so sad to see "
Alot of folks wanting to see Bk/Mormon on 12/26 mat and eve. Surprised to see majority of seats sold. Wondering if folks are buying whatever show they can get because so many have temporarily turned off lights."
I have a friend in town from the West Coast and we were supposed to see 8 shows this coming week. She was already on the East Coast when the closures started. We've been able to rebook CFA and DEH but Waitress, Aladdin, and Christmas Spectacular are no longer options. So we've bought The Book of Mormon matinee tomorrow to fill that slot.
To Kill a Mockingbird just canceled this evening's performance.
https://twitter.com/mockingbirdbway/status/1474836723242782729?s=20
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/29/12
I was hoping to catch Tina tonight but Ticketmaster says it's cancelled.
https://www.ticketmaster.com/tina-the-tina-turner-musical-ny-new-york-new-york-12-25-2021/event/03005A9EA678386E?f_show_more_dates_link=https%3A%2F%2Ftinaonbroadway.com%2Ftickets
EDIT; Confirmed https://twitter.com/TinaBroadway/status/1474873659365867521/photo/1
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/30/15
Damn that por cast/crew can't catch a break.
Crazy how Phantom has avoided this with the massive cast they have. Unless they have a TON of swings and backups as well.
Still devastated about JLP. Was hoping to go back again soon.
Such a shame for them, really thought they'd be back tonight. Fingers crossed they are back tomorrow.
Broadway Star Joined: 10/6/21
theatreguy said: "To Kill a Mockingbird just canceled this evening's performance.
https://twitter.com/mockingbirdbway/status/1474836723242782729?s=20"
They were doing so well too. Correct me if I’m wrong but I think this is their first cancellation, right?
HogansHero said: "kidmanboy said: "I really feel for the entire community and city. But I’m also not sure what new Broadway leadership should/would do. Each production is a separate business. If some are able to still operate safely and keep people employed, why shouldn’t they be running? A full on Broadway closure may mean some of the shows that are making it through this week would close for good and even more people would be unemployed. There’s not really a good answer here - this just all sucks."
First, as I say in another post, I don't think plowing through is going to be viable, whether it is because folks are not healthy or because there is simply not going to be enough audience. Secondly, I think pushing through will do more damage than a having a controlled hiatus, based on understandings between all of the parties. (That's what leadership could do, if we had some.) No one will gain by losing a ton of money over the next month or two, and shows that might survive a hiatus might not survive that. (All of that said, I still stand by my expectation that we will have around a dozen or so shows still standing on 3/1/22.0"
First, let me say that I don't disagree with you. However, I will say this: If there is a hiatus, they have to have an end date to it. It can't be another indefinite shutdown, à la 2020. We have vaccines now, and we simply can't go back to March 2020. If they say they're going on hiatus for January and February, they need to be ready to come back at the beginning of March. This hiatus needs to be designed to get shows through the Omicron surge/winter, not to wait for some big breakthrough (again, à la 2020).
And during this hiatus, they need to come up with a clear plan. A plan to avoid this ever happening again, and to ensure Broadway's recovery as much as possible.
Oof, Tina has been so unlucky. I hope they really do resume tomorrow matinee as they plan. Let’s hope it really is out of an abundance of safety for the healthy company and also making sure they have enough coverage to get the show up tomorrow.
Swing Joined: 12/25/21
How long is a particular actor out after testing positive?
I am scheduled to go tomorrow to Little Shop of Horrors.
Tuesday - Harry Potter
Wed - Music Man.
should I still drive in from Ohio???
Understudy Joined: 8/13/19
Tommy11 said: "How long is a particular actor out after testing positive?
I am scheduled to go tomorrow to Little Shop of Horrors.
Tuesday - Harry Potter
Wed - Music Man.
should I still drive in from Ohio???"
10 days.
Little Shop of Horrors have been performing but Jeremy Jordan was out. An understudy posted they will be on for Jeremy all week.
For Music Man, Sutton Foster will still be in her isolation period by Wednesday.
Every single show has a chance of being canceled. There’s zero way of predicting ANYTHING. If you drive in, be prepared to make last minute changes to your schedule. That’s the best advice anyone can give now.
BroadwayRox3588 said: "First, let me say that I don't disagree with you. However, I will say this: If there is a hiatus, they have to have an end date to it. It can't be another indefinite shutdown,à la 2020. We have vaccines now, and we simply can't go back to March 2020. If they say they're going on hiatus for January and February, they need to be ready to come back at the beginning of March. This hiatus needs to be designed to get shows through the Omicron surge/winter, not to wait for some big breakthrough (again,à la 2020).
And during this hiatus, they need to come up with a clear plan. A plan to avoid this ever happening again, and to ensure Broadway's recovery as much as possible."
Everything you say here is consistent with what I have been saying for a while. When I originally used the word hiatus, I distinguished it from a shutdown. What we can learn (more or less) from South Africa is that the omicron wave is fast and furious. They are already relaxing things because the case counts are way down. Our cases will also decrease, but they have not peaked. No one has all the answers and I sure don't but assuming there is not more bad news facing us down the line (and the science strongly suggests we are going to enter the petering out stage in '22) the reasonable expectation is that we can return to a new normal and plan for it. I am optimistic and think that NYC will be on the other side of this by mid February, at which point we will be able to start cranking theatre back up. Omicron will not have peaked everywhere then, and we will need to figure out how to deal with tourists just as we did the last time. But we are also going to be transitioning from pandemic mode to endemic mode and that's going to require its own species of planning. But I am optimistic. I just think that for a lot of complicated reasons, Broadway has been kinda stupid, especially in the planning dept. We desperately need leadership, and planning. But in the short run, even the diehards are going to lose faith. I read a comment from someone who just had a failed trip here. What did they say? "I give up." and they didn't mean for a month or two; they won't be back for years. That kind of damage we cannot afford. Anyway, glad we are on the same page.
People are already avoiding the city and I expect they’re going to keep staying away for a while. I went to the movies this afternoon at AMC on 42nd St, as I do every Christmas Day. Every year it’s like fighting a Black Friday crowd at Wal-Mart to get into your theater, with almost every showtime sold out days in advance. Today there was only a couple people there and by looking at the AMC app, there has not been one single sold out show, not even Spider-Man. That speaks volumes about tourism in town right now, the busiest time of the year.
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