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stagemag1615582571
Swing Joined: 3/12/21
#1675COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 8:37am
dearalanaaaa said: "quizking101 said: "all_that_jazz said: "If Doubtfire wasn't able to sustain in January I don't know how Tina and Girl from North Country can. Lookin at this up coming week both have less than 200 seats sold for each performance. Be interesting to see how many others follow suit with short term hiatus."
Tina’s pricing is downright laughable. They had maybe 15-20% of the house sold tonight and I went up to the box office to see if I could snag a cheap ticket and the cheapest one they had was $99 for the ass end of the mezzanine. Girl, what?! Had a similar experience at Tina last week as well, asked if there was any Rush tickets and the box office lady might as well have rolled her eyes at me. Rudest (and somewhat, dumbest) staff I've ever encountered at a box office on Broadway after informing me of the same thing. Why would Tina rather have so many empty seats when they could simply sell cheaper tickets?
Possibly tax loss write-off. insurance as well.
#1676COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 8:39am
Fosse76 said: "ACL2006 said: "Rachel Tucker, Julie Reiber, Astrid are all still out with COVID."
You can still test positive for covid after recovery, despite likely not being contagious anymore. One of the primary reasons the CDC doesn't recommend testing after recovery."
I understand if an actor or usher or crew member tests positive, they have to stop working and quarantine for X number of days.
What happens after they recover? Do they still have to take a covid test 3x a week even though it wouldn’t make sense since it’s likely they may test positive again yet not be contagious since they recently had the virus?
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#1677COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 11:21am
stagemag1615582571 said: "dearalanaaaa said: "quizking101 said: "all_that_jazz said: "If Doubtfire wasn't able to sustain in January I don't know how Tina and Girl from North Country can. Lookin at this up coming week both have less than 200 seats sold for each performance. Be interesting to see how many others follow suit with short term hiatus."
Tina’s pricing is downright laughable. They had maybe 15-20% of the house sold tonight and I went up to the box office to see if I could snag a cheap ticket and the cheapest one they had was $99 for the ass end of the mezzanine. Girl, what?! Had a similar experience at Tina last week as well, asked if there was any Rush tickets and the box office lady might as well have rolled her eyes at me. Rudest (and somewhat, dumbest) staff I've ever encountered at a box office on Broadway after informing me of the same thing. Why would Tina rather have so many empty seats when they could simply sell cheaper tickets?
Possibly tax loss write-off. insurance as well.
There is no insurance policy that covers unsold seating inventory, nor does it have anything to do with the overused and misunderstood term of "tax write off".
pagereynolds
Leading Actor Joined: 1/1/22
#1678COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 11:34am
Wick3 said: "Fosse76 said: "ACL2006 said: "Rachel Tucker, Julie Reiber, Astrid are all still out with COVID."
You can still test positive for covid after recovery, despite likely not being contagious anymore. One of the primary reasons the CDC doesn't recommend testing after recovery."
I understand if an actor or usher or crew member tests positive, they have to stop working and quarantine for X number of days.
What happens after they recover? Do they still have to take a covid test 3x a week even though it wouldn’t make sense since it’s likely they may test positive again yet not be contagious since they recently had the virus?
I'm not clear on which tests the theaters are using. If it's a rapid PCR every day, you can test positive up to 90 days later. If it's a rapid antigen test, you will only test positive within that 14 day period or so where you're infectious.
Philly Theater Girl
Understudy Joined: 7/26/19
#1679COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 11:46am
I wonder if all the principals in Moulin Rouge will be back together on stage before Danny Burstein departs this month. There were some performances when four of the six principal roles were played by understudies or swings. It's been a few weeks since Aaron Tveit and Natalie Mendoza performed - I don't think either had scheduled time off.
#1680COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 11:56am
The “Tina” stuff reminds me of the shows that (pre-Covid) would have half full houses and refuse to sell rush seats because they’d already given out their 10 or whatever number they allotted for the day. That, or the ones that were so insistent on ONLY student rush when nobody was seeing the show. It’s ridiculous.
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#1681COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 11:57am
pagereynolds said: "I'm not clear on which tests the theaters are using. If it's a rapid PCR every day, you can test positive up to 90 days later. If it's a rapid antigen test, you will only test positive within that 14 day period or so where you're infectious."
It varies from show to show and theater to theater. As does the number of times per week everyone is tested.
pagereynolds
Leading Actor Joined: 1/1/22
#1682COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 12:00pm
Fosse76 said: "pagereynolds said: "I'm not clear on which tests the theaters are using. If it's a rapid PCR every day, you can test positive up to 90 days later. If it's a rapid antigen test, you will only test positive within that 14 day period or so where you're infectious."
It varies from show to show and theater to theater. As does the number of times per week everyone is tested."
...right, which is a leadership issue in and of itself. If the League or AEA and the stage unions came out and said "we are rapid PCR testing everyone every day" that would do a lot for audience confidence. (As would an upgrade to the mask mandate, since multiple scientists have come out and said that cloth masks are useless and surgical masks aren't much better.)
adotburr
Broadway Star Joined: 10/6/21
#1683COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 12:06pm
Jordan Catalano said: "The “Tina” stuff reminds me of the shows that (pre-Covid) would have half full houses and refuse to sell rush seats because they’d already given out their 10 or whatever number they allotted for the day. That, or the ones that were so insistent on ONLY student rush when nobody was seeing the show. It’s ridiculous."
^ never made sense to me.
#1684COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 12:38pm
I could be wrong of course, but I don’t believe any show relies solely on rapid antigen tests; they’re always used in addition to PCR testing, both lab and rapid. And shows have upped the frequency of testing, which would account for Little Shop finding out a cast member tested positive in between shows on a two-show day. Everyone has to be cleared for work that day or performance, including subs, so I assume there is some kind of testing or clearance every single day for every show.
#1685COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 1:32pm
Moulin Rouge 2pm Matinee is on today -
Burstein, Mendoza, Rojas, and (Holly) James are all out.
- Bobby Daye on for Zidler
- Ashley Loren on for Satine
- Travis Ward-Osborne on for Santiago
- Tasia Jungbauer on for Arabia
#1686COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 2:02pm
quizking101 said: "Moulin Rouge 2pm Matinee is on today -
Burstein, Mendoza, Rojas, and (Holly) James are all out.
- Bobby Daye on for Zidler
- Ashley Loren on for Satine
- Travis Ward-Osborne on for Santiago
- Tasia Jungbauer on for Arabia"
Three swings on too!
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#1687COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 2:21pm
HeyMrMusic said: "I could be wrong of course, but I don’t believe any show relies solely on rapid antigen tests; they’re always used in addition to PCR testing, both lab and rapid. And shows have upped the frequency of testing, which would account forLittle Shopfinding out a cast member tested positive in between shows on a two-show day. Everyone has to be cleared for work that day or performance, including subs, so I assume there is some kind of testing or clearance every single day for every show."
Again, it's not consistent. It varies from show to show.
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#1688COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 2:28pm
Wick3 said: "I understand if an actor or usher or crew member tests positive, they have to stop working and quarantine for X number of days.
What happens after they recover? Do they still have to take a covid test 3x a week even though it wouldn’t make sense since it’s likely they may test positive again yet not be contagious since they recently had the virus?"
They must be cleared by a Healthcare provider before returning to work. But I'm not sure if that includes the requirement of a negative test result. The document I saw simply says they are following CDC guidelines.
ElephantLoveMedley
Broadway Star Joined: 10/14/21
#1689COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 2:37pm
Is Danny Burstein okay? I'm surprised he's missing performances so close to his final performance date. Hope he's doing alright.
#1690COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 2:45pm
I just got word that Ted Arthur is prepping to emergency conduct Moulin Rouge!, I would assume tonight. In the span of two and a half weeks, he has literally gone from closing Diana, to emergency conducting the tour of The Prom for a week in Hershey, Pennsylvania, and now, making his MR conducting debut. Incredible.
I so wish I could be there but COVID cases right now are keeping me away from live theatre at the moment. I still haven't seen this show live yet.
#1691COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 2:59pm
The unsung heroes aren’t just onstage. There are often more people covering actor tracks than people able to conduct a show.
#1692COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 3:06pm
Philly Theater Girl said: "I wonder if all the principals in Moulin Rouge will be back together on stage before Danny Burstein departs this month. There were some performances when four of the six principal roles were played by understudies or swings. It's been a few weeks since Aaron Tveit and Natalie Mendoza performed - I don't think either had scheduled time off."
Aaron Tveit posted that he's back as Christian.
Philly Theater Girl
Understudy Joined: 7/26/19
#1693COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 3:23pm
poisonivy2 said: "Philly Theater Girl said: "I wonder if all the principals in Moulin Rouge will be back together on stage before Danny Burstein departs this month. There were some performances when four of the six principal roles were played by understudies or swings. It's been a few weeks since Aaron Tveit and Natalie Mendoza performed - I don't think either had scheduled time off."
Aaron Tveit posted that he's back as Christian."
I saw that he posted. This is his second bout of Covid.
Ceej
Stand-by Joined: 3/30/07
#1694COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 3:37pm
HADESTOWN tour just canceled tonight in Houston (second night in a row). Sad because it's my subscriber night. Here's hoping they can bring the tour back here at some point...and wishing a speedy recovery to the cast & crew so that perhaps they can at least have a few shows in our city.
Updated On: 1/5/22 at 03:37 PM
pattilupony
Chorus Member Joined: 10/27/21
#1695COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 3:39pm
quizking101 said: "Moulin Rouge 2pm Matinee is on today -
Burstein, Mendoza, Rojas, and (Holly) James are all out.
- Bobby Daye on for Zidler
- Ashley Loren on for Satine
- Travis Ward-Osborne on for Santiago
- Tasia Jungbauer on for Arabia"
Natalie Mendoza hasn't performed since before their first cancellation, December 15. She posted on Instagram last week she'd be back January 1 but still hasn't returned. Hope she's alright.
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#1696COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 3:56pm
She is an extremely cautious person who tries to stay very, very healthy. I can totally understand why she is not working right now. Be safe, not sorry.
Updated On: 1/5/22 at 03:56 PM
#1697COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 6:33pm
JSquared2 said: "stagemag1615582571 said: "dearalanaaaa said: "quizking101 said: "all_that_jazz said: "If Doubtfire wasn't able to sustain in January I don't know how Tina and Girl from North Country can. Lookin at this up coming week both have less than 200 seats sold for each performance. Be interesting to see how many others follow suit with short term hiatus."
Tina’s pricing is downright laughable. They had maybe 15-20% of the house sold tonight and I went up to the box office to see if I could snag a cheap ticket and the cheapest one they had was $99 for the ass end of the mezzanine. Girl, what?! Had a similar experience at Tina last week as well, asked if there was any Rush tickets and the box office lady might as well have rolled her eyes at me. Rudest (and somewhat, dumbest) staff I've ever encountered at a box office on Broadway after informing me of the same thing. Why would Tina rather have so many empty seats when they could simply sell cheaper tickets?
Possibly tax loss write-off. insurance as well.
There is no insurance policy that covers unsold seating inventory, nor does it have anything to do with the overused and misunderstood term of "tax write off".
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Business losses are tax write-offs subject to IRS limitations. Insurance will cover whatever you get an underwriter to cover. Theaters sought insurance money for initial covid shutdown.
If you know, tell us why production doesn't reduce the price of ticket instead of letting the seats go empty?
#1698COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 9:28pm
JayElle said: "Business losses are tax write-offs. Insurance can be whatever you get an underwriter to cover."
This topic has been rehearsed here so many times that if we had a dollar for every time, we could cover the losses on all currently running shows and still have enough money for premium tickets to every show.
So once more:
A "tax write-off" means that a business loss reduces the taxes due. That's great when you have a loss despite your best efforts to avoid one. But it is wholly irrational to lose money on purpose to get a tax write-off. A simple example. Assume that a show that is losing money reduce revenue by $10,000 by refusing to discount. This will increase your business loss by $10,000. Your tax write-off on this loss, however, is not $10,000; it is the TAX on the additional $10,000 loss. To keep the math simple, let's call the tax rate 20%. So the tax write-off of that $10,000 loss is $2,000. No sane person would intentionally lose an extra $10k to get a $2k tax write-off. You would still be out $8k.
Regarding the proposed unsold seat insurance policy, you'll just have to take my word for it that no one could afford the premium. Again, what would the point be?
#1699COVID performance cancellation
Posted: 1/5/22 at 11:18pm
JayElle said: "Business losses are tax write-offs. Insurance can be whatever you get an underwriter to cover." This topic has been rehearsed here so many times that if we had a dollar for every time, we could cover the losses on all currently running shows and still have enough money for premium tickets to every show.
HogansHero wrote: So once more: "tax write-off" means that a business loss reduces the taxes due. That's great when you have a loss despite your best efforts to avoid one. But it is wholly irrational to lose money on purpose to get a tax write-off. A simple example. Assume that a show that is losing money reduce revenue by $10,000 by refusing to discount. This will increase your business loss by $10,000. Your tax write-off on this loss, however, is not $10,000; it is the TAX on the additional $10,000 loss. To keep the math simple, let's call the tax rate 20%. So the tax write-off of that $10,000 loss is $2,000. No sane person would intentionally lose an extra $10k to get a $2k tax write-off. You would still be out $8k. Regarding the proposed unsold seat insurance policy, you'll just have to take my word for it that no one could afford the premium. Again, what would the point be?
Totally inaccurate analysis. Talk to a tax attorney or tax accountant. There is no tax on losses, so start there. Taxes pertain to income/revenue.
JSquared2 stated "there is no insurance...." You make conclusion that any such insurance would be cost prohibitive. A statement without any supporting evidence to justify that. Production companies went after their insurance for coverage back in 2020.
So if reducing the price is not for a tax loss, then what is the reason that the production company won't? Tell us. Why won't they cut the price in half or give it to TDF? I don't see anyone offering that explanation. Rather, the responses are "no it's not for a tax loss." Then what is it?
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