MRS. DOUBTFIRE Post-Hiatus Return - News & Discussion Thread — Page 2

ArtMan said: "It was stated in the article that if open and performances are cancelled cast/crew are paid. This way he ain't paying!"

Exactly -- that was my point. It is NOT stated in the article, but there had been a proposal from the League producers on the table that would have allowed shows to shut down for 8-10 weeks, but everyone would essentially remain on contract -- at a reduced rate of 25-35% of their salaries (which even for an actor making scale would be around $700/week plus benefits). The unions refused to even consider this -- so now their members get nothing.

This is the best news I've heard in weeks and I am proud of Kevin for doing this. I was not expecting him to be the leader we need. Hopefully this will lead others to get in line and for the League to make this universal, with a negotiated arrangement with the unions. Disgraceful that we are having to limp into this.

HogansHero said: "This is the best news I've heard in weeks and I am proud of Kevin for doing this. I was not expecting him to be the leader we need. Hopefully this will lead others to get in line and for the League to make this universal, with a negotiated arrangement with the unions. Disgraceful that we are having to limp into this.

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So you would rather 115 people out of jobs for 9 weeks vs. the occasional cancelled show once or twice per week? To each their own I guess.

JSquared2 said: "ArtMan said: "It was stated in the article that if open and performances are cancelled cast/crew are paid. This way he ain't paying!"

Exactly -- that was my point. It is NOT stated in the article, but there had been a proposal from the League producers on the table that would have allowed shows to shut down for 8-10 weeks, but everyone would essentially remain on contract -- at a reduced rate of 25-35% of their salaries (which even for an actor making scale would be around $700/week plus benefits). The unions refused to even consider this -- so now their members get nothing."

I read the article in the Washington News Post. In THAT article, it was stated they would NOT pay salaries. (I know zero about this site. However, it is STATED) I don't post s**t just to post it.

Updated On: 1/2/22 at 07:54 PM

HogansHero said: "adotburr said: "So you would rather 115 people out of jobs for 9 weeks vs. the occasional cancelled show once or twice per week? To each their own I guess."

No. I would rather a few thousand people temporarily out of work for 9 weeks than most of them unemployed permanently which is what will happen when all of these shows close. You can't run shows without an audience, even if you have a cast, so anything but the rich ones will never survive the very dark days of this winter. You just don't understand, and don't seem interested in either omicron or the finances of Broadway. But to each their own I guess."

Wow, you’re very rude. No, I completely understand. Your logic is what I don’t understand. Additionally, I’m not going to be afraid of a virus my entire life.

The amount of joy on Insta right now on this news is absolutely ridiculous. Ditto when Jagged Little Pill announced their retroactive closing.

One very relevant quote from the NYT article I don’t think I’ve seen brought up:

”McCollum said that if he does not attempt the hiatus, the show would run out of money and be forced to close within three weeks.”

It’s not just a “would probably close in a month or two” situation, he gave an actual number. Sure there’s a chance the show will close anyway and everyone will be out those 2 weeks of work, but I’m guessing this gamble of trying to keep the show open longer is preferable.

Updated On: 1/2/22 at 08:15 PM

The theatrical unions have also refused to agree to the League's position that booster shots be made mandatory as a condition of employment of their members.

RippedMan said: "EDSOSLO858 said: "The amount of joy on Insta right now on this news is absolutely ridiculous. Ditto whenJagged Little Pillannounced their retroactive closing."

That's kind of a gross take."

What I’m saying is that is just horrendous behavior. People are once again out of work when they’ve just been unemployed for a year and a half.

EDSOSLO858 said: "RippedMan said: "EDSOSLO858 said: "The amount of joy on Insta right now on this news is absolutely ridiculous. Ditto whenJagged Little Pillannounced their retroactive closing."

That's kind of a gross take."

What I’m saying is that is just horrendous behavior. People are once again out of work when they’ve just been unemployed for a year and a half."

Why are people so happy about this?

HogansHero said: "This is the best news I've heard in weeks and I am proud of Kevin for doing this. I was not expecting him to be the leader we need. Hopefully this will lead others to get in line and for the League to make this universal, with a negotiated arrangement with the unions. Disgraceful that we are having to limp into this.

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I disagree. I think it's the right move for THIS show and for some others. But I do not believe it should be universal. I think the PR of Broadway completing shutting down is bad news all around. Let some long-runners and big hits (Phantom, Lion King, Music Man, Wicked, Hamilton, etc) keep the lights on for a couple months instead of shutting it all down again. But I'm totally supportive of individual shows making this choice.

adotburr said: "HogansHero said: "This is the best news I've heard in weeks and I am proud of Kevin for doing this. I was not expecting him to be the leader we need. Hopefully this will lead others to get in line and for the League to make this universal, with a negotiated arrangement with the unions. Disgraceful that we are having to limp into this.

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So you would rather 115 people out of jobs for 9 weeks vs. the occasional cancelled show once or twice per week? To each their own I guess."

I think it was either close the show and re-open or just close it. Taking a few performances off here and there was not what was being discussed. So the show closes and you get another job take it. And if you don't and you get offered this one again great. I thoroughly enjoyed the show. Was it art no but the audience was having a great time.

I'm really getting tired of all the negative people on here who seem to live just to put things down. These are struggling times and some people are trying to find a way to make it work and a lot of shows won't make it.