Name a song from a musical you were sorry to lose in its film version as well as one you were happy to gain.

[The Other One]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:26pm

Sorriest to lose: Probably No More, from the otherwise intact Into The Woods, or How Can Love Survive? from The Sound of Music.

Happiest to gain: The title song to Bye Bye Birdie.

[MrsSallyAdams]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:39pm

Nine: Sad to lose Be On Your Own. But I'm one of the five people who enjoyed Cinema Italiano.

Dreamgirls: Sad to lose Ain't No Party. But I liked the new songs. Particularly Listen.

Little Shop of Horrors: Love Lean Green Mother from Outer Space. This was the first version I saw so I'm not as upset as others by the changed ending.

A Little Night Music. The film's a mess but I enjoy the new version of The Glamorous Life. 

[joevitus]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:44pm

MrsSallyAdams said: "Nine: Sad to lose Be On Your Own. But I'm one of the five people who enjoyed Cinema Italiano.

Dreamgirls:Sad to lose Ain't No Party. But I liked the new songs. Particularly Listen.

Little Shop of Horrors:Love Lean Green Mother from Outer Space. This was the first version I saw so I'm not as upset as others by the changed ending.

A Little Night Music. The film's a mess but I enjoy the new version of The Glamorous Life."

Pretty much agree with all of this. I hated the film version of Nine, but I thought that song was pretty good. I'm so baffled that "Mean Green Mother" was written with the original ending intended. It works wonderfully in the release version as a transition from things going very dark to everything being light and fun again. But to have that song after Audrey has been died and fed to it, and ending it with Seymour eaten and his glasses spit out is..more than macabre. And Iike dark humor. BTW, few things in my moviegoing experience have surprised me more than the original ending--which I'd regretted being cut from day one, and eagerly couldn't wait to see--turns out to have been a terrible mistake, and the studio imposed happy ending works better. 

Edit: Er, it's probably obvious but the sentence should read "And I like dark humor."

Updated On: 10/25/24 at 03:44 PM

[EvanstonDad]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:46pm

Mine are from the same movie, Hairspray. Sorry to lose "Mama I'm a Big Girl Now" (I know it was played during the end credits but it's not the same), and I really liked the song they added to play first during the end credits, "Come So Far"

[joevitus]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:46pm

The Other One said: "Sorriest to lose: Probably No More, from the otherwise intact Into The Woods, or How Can Love Survive? from The Sound of Music.

Happiest to gain: The title song to Bye Bye Birdie."

I love the two songs cut from The Sound of Music (well actually all three: I guess I am one of the few people to like "An Ordinary Couple" quite a bit), but they have no place in the movie. And it works, for film, for the two more realistic--or maybe we should just say jaded--characters not sing at all. 

[TennisFan4lyfe]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:52pm

Sorriest to lose:  "The Music & The Mirror" from A Chorus Line.

Happiest to gain:  "I Move On" to Chicago. (Sorry to lose "I Am My Own Best Friend" from Chicago.)

Updated On: 10/24/24 at 03:52 PM

[joevitus]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 3:53pm

I'd mention "I Have Confidence" and "Something Good" as songs I'm glad The Sound of Music gained.

For songs I was sorry to lose...where does one begin? Most of the score to On the Town was removed and the replacement songs are incredibly bad. Brigadoon lost Meg's songs, "There But for You Go I," and "From This Day On." I wouldn't mind the swap of "Ya Never Know" for "Some Fun Now" in Little Shop if the whole song from the soundtrack was in the film, but I hate how it's truncated. Also miss the complete "Meek Shall Inherit." Miss The Ballad of Sweeney Todd" from that movie, but I just hate that movie, so maybe it doesn't matter. Rocky Horror has never regained "Once in a While" (and the kinda music video version of it now included as an extra doesn't follow the way the film was original cut into the film, interspersed with Janet's dialogue as she moved from her bedroom to the lab). 

[KevinKlawitter]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 4:11pm

I can understand in cinematic terms why "Ever After" was cut from Into the Woods, but I still really miss that song.

I'll second liking the new songs from Dreamgirls, but my favorite of them was probably "Patience". And I'm not sure it counts, but in Disney's live action Beauty and the Beast I enjoyed "Evermore", in large part because we so rarely get solos written for a baritone voice that aren't villain songs.

Updated On: 10/24/24 at 04:11 PM

[uncageg]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 4:18pm

The Wiz:

Sorry to lose: Who Do You Think You Are? & The Tornado

Happy to gain: Emerald City Sequence

[merle57]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 4:49pm

I greatly miss No Way to Stop It from Sound of Music since it is a major thematic song about accommodating Nazis.   I miss Bushel and a Peck from Guys and Dolls, but like the addition of Adelaide. I miss Shall I Tell You what I Think of You and I Have Dreamed from King and I, I like the addition of the new Glamorous Life in Night Music movie (though the movie is weak). Miss Music and the Mirror from Chorus Line movie (and that movie is terrible). Miss the Bernstein songs from On The Town. Miss the entire Stonecutters/Geraniums sequence and Highest Judge of All from Carousel. Miss On Your Own from Nine. Hollywood made so many bad movies of great stage shows -- Chorus Line, Annie, Nine, Night Music, Camelot, Paint Your Wagon, Brigadoon, Guys and Dolls. Hollywood made imperfect movie musicals of Broadway shows -- Finian's Rainbow, Carousel, South Pacific. 

[TheGingerBreadMan]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 4:54pm

KevinKlawitter said: "And I'm not sure it counts, but in Disney'slive action Beauty and the BeastI enjoyed "Evermore", in large part because we so rarely get soloswritten for a baritone voice that aren't villain songs."

I don't mind Evermore, it's a perfectly fine song, but If I Can't Love Her is miles better and it's still unfathomable to me that they replaced it. That was one I was very sorry to lose.

[BwayLB]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 5:31pm

For Hairspray, I’m sad we only heard Zac Efron sing a few seconds of It Takes Two. But happy to gain New Girl In Town and Come So Far.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 5:50pm

joevitus said: "I'm so baffled that "Mean Green Mother" was written with the original ending intended. It works wonderfully in the release version as a transition from things going very dark to everything being light and fun again. But to have that song after Audrey has been died and fed to it, and ending it with Seymour eaten and his glasses spit out is..more than macabre. And Iike dark humor.

​​​​I really enjoyed that the Regents Park production in London turning Mean Green Mother into a Curtain Call song.

https://youtu.be/UBe-_7czdGY?si=GRSWgwIfIzIVoiqd

[MCfan2]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 6:12pm

Sorry to lose: "I've Never Been in Love Before," Guys and Dolls.

Happy to gain: "Something Good," The Sound of Music. Not so much because I think it's a great song in itself, but because IMO, it fits the moment so much better than "An Ordinary Couple."

I may think of others later, but those two come to mind first.

Updated On: 10/24/24 at 06:12 PM

[greensgreens]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 11:12pm

EvanstonDad said: "Mine are from the same movie, Hairspray. Sorry to lose "Mama I'm a Big Girl Now"(I know it was played during the end credits but it's not the same), and I really liked the song they added to play first during the end credits,"Come So Far""

Thank you for mentioning Come So Far! It’s such a tragedy that wasn’t actually incorporated into the film. It’s a bop!!!

[KevinKlawitter]

Posted: 10/24/24 at 11:17pm

BwayLB said: "For Hairspray, I’m sad we only heard Zac Efron sing a few seconds of It Takes Two. But happy to gain New Girl In Town and Come So Far."

Speaking of Zac Efron, "Ladies' Choice" is also a bop!

[twotrey]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 1:57am

Sorry to lose "Sunrise" in In the Heights and "High Enough" in Rock of Ages

Happy to gain "Love You I Do," "Patience," "Listen" in Dreamgirls; "Sandy" in Grease

[chewy5000]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 3:48am

uncageg said: "The Wiz:

Sorry to lose:Who Do You Think You Are? & The Tornado

Happy to gain: Emerald City Sequence"

Amen! If the Tornado sequence isn't going to be a full disco extravaganza, there better be something amazing to make up for it.

[inception]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 5:19am

Gain: Money, Money  in Cabaret.  So good it got added to the stage version.  Lots of songs cut for the film with the removal of mist if the Fräulein Schneider sub-plot.

But...

Biggest loss: Class from Chicago.  Fortunately  it was filmed, and can still be seen.

 A gain that adds little is the song "Loving You" thst they added to the film of Mame once they hired Robert Preston.  I don't ever mind listening to Preston sing, but it just makes the film even longer.  Despite all its flaws it remains one of my favourite films of all time.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 6:05am

MrsSallyAdams said: "

A Little Night Music. The film's a mess but I enjoy the new version of The Glamorous Life."

And here I thought I might be the only one to mention ALNM.  Yes, the film's a mess (even if I defend aspects of it way too often on here) but I agree about gaining the glorious new Glamorous Life.  The film loses a lot of great music (mostly due to losing the Liebersingers) but, while even if the film worked better I can't see THIS song working in it, the song I'm sorriest to lost from the show is The Miller's Son.

Oklahoma!:  Sorry to lose Lonely Room from what is otherwise one of the better R&H film adaptations (this was the film version Hammerstein was most actively involved in, and so I'm surprised he let it be cut.)

Sound of Music:  Sorry to lose How Can Love Survive (No Way to Stop It is a close second) but happy to gain Something Good (partly, as someone else said, simply because the melody is so much more appealing at that moment than Ordinary Couple...) 

 

 

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 6:58am

joevitus said: "MrsSallyAdams said: " But to have that song after Audrey has been died and fed to it, and ending it with Seymour eaten and his glasses spit out is..more than macabre. And Iike dark humor. BTW, few things in my moviegoing experience have surprised me more than the original ending--which I'd regretted being cut from day one, and eagerly couldn't wait to see--turns out to have been a terrible mistake, and the studio imposed happy ending works better."

Glad that someone agrees with me.  I'm happy we finally have it on the BluRay but... it doesn't work.  If it was a straight forward adaptation of the stage ending, it might work.  But instead it's LOOOONG, it turns the movie in its final minutes into a giant monsters movie, we don't see the cast return as plant buds...  I'm fine with the studio imposed new ending.

(HOWEVER, while it doesn't fit the theme of this thread, quite, I wish they had included the special end credits song Menken and Ashman wrote specifically for the film, which would never fit in the film itself but as an end credit song nicely seems to close the movie.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ry4OB7A2No

 

[darreyl102]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 7:12am

Still mad that they cut out ' Velma's revenge' (It also wasn't even on the OBC recording either ) From 'Hairspray', That and the Von Tussle part in ' You can't stop the beat'. Would have been happy if they were just on the soundtrack at least. 

[darquegk]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 8:42am

The movie version of Reefer Madness added “Mary Jane, Mary Lane,” replacing a trio of less memorable songs that filled the same moments in the Off-Broadway incarnation. They quickly made the licensing version as close as possible to the film, recognizing that it was the best evolution of the show yet.

The recent LA version has added a few songs, but appears to stick very closely to the movie’s streamlined version. 

[fashionguru_23]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 8:53am

Not really answering the question, but I want to point out my thoughts

Beauty and the Beast: holds such a special place in my heart, but I'm not crazy about the new songs for the 2017. The thing with Evermore, is that I feel like it bring the film to a screeching hault. It's too late in the story to introduce this new expansive feeling. I know The Mob Song is techically a new song (which comes after Evermore), but it is that scene that begins (what I call) the final minutes. Shows always have a moment or a scene where you know you are entering the end of the show. In the musical the reprise of If I Can't Love Her, is heart breaking.

On the Town: I knew the movie before the show, and the new songs, along with the ones kept from the stage show scream "splashy MGM musical" to me, which I love. So, the stage score isn't a listen I make very often if at all.

Also, I think we can all agree 'My White Knight" is a more enjoyable song that "Being in Love" from The Music Man

[Harriet Craig]

Posted: 10/25/24 at 9:49am

Sorry to lose “Long Before I Knew You” from Bells Are Ringing.