Patti LuPone overrated?
Patti LuPone overrated?
broadwayfan113
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#1Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 1:41amDoes anyone agree? disagree? She's definitely a mega talent- although I have to say I was a bit disappointed by her performance in Gypsy.
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#2re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 1:55amYes, it's hard for one to live up to a reputation as high as Patti LuPone's, even for Patti LuPone herself! She has somewhat of a goddess status, which is slightly overrated. Still a great performer, though.
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#3re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 1:56am
Everyone needs their time to shine. Even if it's over a 30 year period.
Maybe she is, maybe she isn't, but she does a damn good job at what she does.
Personally, with Gypsy closed, her infamous show "stopping" performance on Jan 10th already published in magazines and around the web. We got bigger fish to fry come 2009 on the Great White Way via the economic stimuli
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#4re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:34amPerhaps she's a little overrated--but she knows how to work that inner-diva!!
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#5re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:36amI am not the least bit impressed with her. Listening to her sing is painful. For someone who graduated from such a big school, she sure doesn't have much talent to show for it, just ego.
#6re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:39amI think she is very overrated. But not in her performance as Mamma Rose in "Gypsy".
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#7re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:42am
I am not the least bit impressed with her.
- We are aware that; hence the reason you like to make up completely false lies about her.
#9re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 3:55am
Listen, I was one of the audience members who was not pleased with her outburst on the 10th, but let's be clear--Ms. LuPone is a very talented actor and singer. Maybe you disagree with her choices, but there's no denying the technical skills she possesses.
She's brave and risky and with that comes a great diversity of opinion and for that alone she deserves a modicum of respect.
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#11re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 10:08am
I thought Gypsy was overrated, as was she. I wasn't moved by her performance, I barely chuckled at the strippers. I simply wasn't entertained.
For me I don't get the whole "LuPone Love Affair". To each his own.
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#13re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 10:24am
"Everyone needs their time to shine. Even if it's over a 30 year period."
See, I know there may be some disagreement, but she really didn't seem to be THIS big until recently... At least not so in your face. But I like her.
There was a thread a posted a couple of years ago asking why she was so controversial (at the time it wasn't as apparent).... I wish I could find it, but when searching Patti LuPone there are too many threads to go through.
#14re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 10:43am
I think she's good definitely. But I don't think she's THAT good to warrant so much idolatry.
The Lupone love affair is getting to be a bit like the Idina Menzel fanzeling or Ruthie Henshall's fan base.
Yup, I just compared Lupone to Menzel and Henshall.... :P
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#15re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 10:46am
I found it! And I had to update my original message.... a bit embarassing haha.
https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.cfm?thread=916216#2607289
#16re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 11:05am
At the end of the day, she's just a performer.
Some say she's good, others say she's not. Irregardless, she's just a performer.
It applies to most famous artists, they get put on such high pedestals that people forget what they are. The Beatles, for instance, were just a band.
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#17re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 11:11amWell, to be fair, they were an incredible band.
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#18re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 11:15amWhat's REALLY overrated: the value of newbies posting troll-like threads.
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#19re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 11:27am
Say this with her next to you will earn you a knuckle sandwich
This is like saying : "Is Sondheim overrated"?
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#20re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 11:42am
Both Sondheim and Lupone are over rated. He can never compare to Rodgers & Hammerstein, Irving Berlin, Cole Porter, Styne.
She is OK, but not a truly great performer.
Updated On: 2/1/09 at 11:42 AM
#21re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:26pm
"What's REALLY overrated: the value of newbies posting troll-like threads."
-No dear, what's REALLY overrated is the over usage of the 'newbie' and 'sockpuppet' assumption every time someone has a differing opinion to yours.
"Say this with her next to you will earn you a knuckle sandwich"
-Why? Is she going to give me a good hiding? Of course I won't expect anything less than a knuckle sandwich from someone who believes she's the best thing since sliced bread, pardon the pun.
"This is like saying : "Is Sondheim overrated"?
-Um since you mentioned, yeah he is.
"Both Sondheim and Lupone are over rated. He can never compare to Rodgers & Hammerstein, Irving Berlin, Cole Porter Styne.
She is OK, but not a truly great performer. "
-Thank you. I love me some good ole R&H and only on rare occasion, a Sondheim tune. That's just me, yes I'm a Philistine. Continue living your lives.
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#22re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:46pmI think every performer is at least slightly overrated among his or her fans, just because people get so enthusiastic about their favorite performers that they practically worship them. I'm guilty of this as well-- I can get REALLY fangirly over my favorite actors and overlook their faults. I mean, no one can be totally objective about these things, just because we're all human. And once you get up to Broadway level, where everyone really is extremely talented, it all comes down to a matter of personal taste who the best performers are.
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#23re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 1:06pm
What exactly does overrated mean and who decides? Is there a panel, like the g8, of world leaders who get together and vote what is and what is not overrated?
Or is it just your own opinion? ---Which in my opinion, is overrated.
Think of different "buzz words", because overrated is overrated.
#24re: Patti LuPone overrated?
Posted: 1/31/09 at 1:09pm
Ms. LuPone is a very talented actor and singer. Maybe you disagree with her choices, but there's no denying the technical skills she possesses.
Saying someone is overrated is not the same thing as saying they are untalented. You can still really like someone and think they are talented but still think they are overrated.
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