Sexism defeats Taymor — Page 2

whyohwhyoh, you're just deliciously insane.

Taymor wrote an awful script, and can't direct an actor to save her life. She's terrific at visuals, and has been fortunate to have others helping her with the book and acting on projects prior to this.

She fell victim to her own pride here, and bit off more than she could chew.

Sexism isn't even a miniscule part of the picture. Don't use gender to cloud issues.

Let's face it guys this show did not have a real pre-Broadway tryout. I think producers trying to cut corners are going to learn the hard way how important it is to put months between tryouts. If Julie was fired in Nebraska at least it wasn't here on the main stage. Look what happened to Little Mermaid, Tarzan, Woman on the Verge and on an on.

Julie Taymor should count her blessings! She was an experimental theatre director with a focus on puppets...yes, puppets! When Disney took a chance on her and let her direct Lion King. AND if you bother to study the actual history of the production - not the fictionalized spin AFTER the show was a hit - you will learn that her inability to understand budget and the collaborative nature of commercial theatre led to her being fired TWICE by Disney. Name ONE other of actual SUCCESSFUL financial hit directing projects. Can't be done.
No man has EVER been entrusted with $65 and NINE YEARS to make a commercial Broadway Musical - by the way she hasn't done it yet either. The show has no spent more than the $65 mill and it is STILL not open!

As to your failure to understand WHY she is accountable and not the composer - AGAIN I suggest you study ACTUAL theatre history and stop your "oh, woe is me, they're picking on her because she's a girl." attitude and attempt to shift the focus of the story.

Gordon Craig was the theatre guru that espoused the concept that "the director is the Super Artist" of the theatre. The director is responsible for each and every element of the production. The composer answers to the director. Unless you have some kind of ego driven composer that is also the producer, but enough about Sir Andrew.
Investors in a show are INVESTING. They are NOT coddling a pampered "visionary". They are business people. They revere deadlines and returns. She has hemorrhaged money. She has risked safety of the company. She caused an endless stream of bad press. She has ignored producers demands for change. SHE IS THEIR EMPLOYEE.
No one - I repeat NO ONE - man, woman or spider would be given the chance as an employee to blow that kind of money and be that insubordinate and be called a "visionary". Her actions MIGHT have been excused if she had made a product that was GOOD - not even excellent, but just good.

No one cares that Julie Taymor has a vagina. That is not the problem. The problem is she is NOT a good director that can work well with others and can't accept the fact that she is an employee of the producers and should conduct herself as such.

Gee, and I thought whyohwhyoh was nuts everytime he flailed about the new Les Miz orchestrations... this takes the cake. A cakewrecks-worthy cake!

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I think Julie is hot.

This would never happen to Susan Stroman or Kathleen Marshall. What with their penises and all.

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WHAT??? I have never commented about the new Les Miz orchestrations! I am so sick of this boy's club mentality. Taymor is a visionary who had the misfortune to work with a hack producer and amateur composer/"lyricist" if you can even call them that. And they have the collossal GALL to imply that they will save the show??????? NO. Never.

WhyohWhyohWhy can't you get it? Taymor can't be a "visionary" if she can't see the forest for the trees.

You keep harping (yes, that's intentional) on the idea that anyone cared that she was a women. I still say - NO ONE CARES THAT JULIE TAYMOR HAS A VAGINA!

She failed! She spent $65 million PLUS and could NOT deliver a project completed on deadline - not once, not twice, not three times! She should have been fired LONG ago for being so insubordinate to her producers/employers.

Again - I challenge you to name ONE successful (critical OR financial) Broadway Musical she has done since Lion King?!Name ONE successful (critical OR financial) film she has directed!

If you're going to call her a "visionary" what exactly is your definition? Or are you just repeating Taymor's own press releases?

Let's face it guys this show did not have a real pre-Broadway tryout. I think producers trying to cut corners are going to learn the hard way how important it is to put months between tryouts. If Julie was fired in Nebraska at least it wasn't here on the main stage. Look what happened to Little Mermaid, Tarzan, Woman on the Verge and on an on.

The producers are not trying to "cut corners." It really irks me when people say the show needed an out of town tryout. The show cost $65 million. The Foxwoods had to undergo some renovations to be able to house this show. There is no way in hell they could have done an out of town tryout with a show that is this big. The show has so much technology and permanent rigging that requires renovations and installation of equipment. There is no way they could have loaded this into a theatre out of town for a couple months then pack it up and take it two New York. That is like saying Cirque du Soleil should have done an out of town tryout for O.
Not to mention the fact that Little Mermaid did have an out of town tryout.

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I'm reminded of Lost in La Mancha. Anyone see that movie? Originally, it was going to be a making of doc of a Terry Gilliam movie but rotten luck and an inadequate contingency plan meant Gilliam's Don Quixote never got made.

I really think Julie should've looked at the last animated Spiderman show. Its showrunner is not lacking in pretensions, as Riedel might say, but when he had Peter Parker's classmates performing Midsummer's Night Dream it did not play as something shoehorned in- it was subtext, it revealed character and it was appropriate to the setting.I also love the 1602 Spiderman created by Neil Gaiman. It's not the blending that's the problem but how it's done. I'm also not keen on the spider totem bit that was pushed in the comics at some point- and it sounds Arachne is in that vein.

As Jordan C says so often, I AM Julie!

Actually, no. I want to stay till the bitter end and see how this sideshow actually plays out. To call it a roller coaster just doesn't say enough about what has happened, is happening, and will happen. Believe me, the final chapters are no where near written.