Tony Awards Race - Audra vs. Nicole Edition
Wayman_Wong
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
#50Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 2:17am
''Think Cole Escola likely knocking off Denzel, Kieran, and Clooney for the Tony''
If the past Tony precedents mean anything, Kieran Culkin will be competing in Featured Actor for ''Glengarry Glen Ross,'' even though he's billed above the title. In 1986, Joe Mantegna won the Featured Actor Tony for the role of Richard Roma. In the 2005 revival, Liev Schreiber was above the title, but he competed in Featured Actor and also won for playing Roma.
#51Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 2:57pm
VanillaIceCream2 said: "Because the Gypsy revival as a whole hasn't been received particularly well…""
Based on what? Not the critics’ reviews or the grosses, which have been great and higher than Sunset.
#52Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 3:28pm
I’m here now at Gypsy and Audra is giving a wonderful performance in a wrong production of Gypsy
I would give it to Nicole
#53Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 3:47pm
Audra will win because the Tonys adore Audra. Not saying Audra isn't great or isn't desrving, but the Tony voters worship her AND she's playing the diva role of all diva roles, breaking a half-century plus tradition of racial boundaries for this role in the process. No way she doesn't walk away with this.
Updated On: 1/29/25 at 03:47 PM#54Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 5:03pm
joevitus said: "Audra will win because the Tonys adore Audra. Not saying Audra isn't great or isn't desrving, but the Tony voters worship her ANDshe's playing the diva role of all diva roles, breakinga half-century plustraditionofracial boundaries for this role in the process. No way she doesn't walk away with this."
Audra certainly has won more Tonys than any other performer, but she's also lost them, too. She's had a 60% win rate (10 noms, 6 wins- and she didn't even get nominated for her last outing with George C. Wolfe, Shuffle Along).
ElephantLoveMedley
Broadway Star Joined: 10/14/21
#55Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 5:10pm
I can't believe this is even a question. Nicole for the win.
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#56Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 5:15pm
joevitus said: "Audra will win because the Tonys adore Audra. Not saying Audra isn't great or isn't desrving, but the Tony voters worship her ANDshe's playing the diva role of all diva roles, breakinga half-century plustraditionofracial boundaries for this role in the process. No way she doesn't walk away with this."
#57Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 5:33pm
So, they...don't love her? This isn't a performance that makes history? Um...okay.
#58Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 5:37pm
Kad said: "joevitus said: "Audra will win because the Tonys adore Audra. Not saying Audra isn't great or isn't desrving, but the Tony voters worship her ANDshe's playing the diva role of all diva roles, breakinga half-century plustraditionofracial boundaries for this role in the process. No way she doesn't walk away with this."
Audra certainly has won more Tonys than any other performer, but she's also lost them, too. She's had a 60% win rate (10 noms, 6 wins- and she didn't even get nominated for her last outing with George C. Wolfe, Shuffle Along)."
Isn't a 60% win rate, like, incredibly high and unusual? If she were just appearing in another musical, even getting raves the equivalent of what she's getting here, I could see her losing to Nicole. But these raves, this role, the cultural importance of the casting, all combined? In a year Trump regained the presidency?
The award is hers.
#59Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 5:58pm
I could be wrong but I imagine the tony voters would be the kind of grumpy people who have seen all the roses and think her voice is miscast - the kind of early criticism that was on here during previews although now people seem to love it (I always thought the voice worked personally). Until we start getting those tony voter polls etc. and Ben Brantley, Jesse green et al. Start commenting I personally feel could see it going either way.
Id also like it to remain close because it makes the Tonys more interesting. It’s a bit boring year after year if everything is so predictable.
#60Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 6:47pm
joevitus said: "So, they...don't love her? This isn't a performance that makes history? Um...okay."
Loving her doesn't mean always rewarding her, which is what you seem to have been implying.
Frankly, I just think it's way too soon to be arguing definitively about who will win. It's the end of January.
OhHiii
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/30/16
#62Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/29/25 at 8:24pm
This feels like a race that'll be a photo finish.
When GYPSY opened, most folks in the industry I know admired her but thought she was miscast. But it's hard to argue with those grosses, and they have a way of settling the matter.
BWAY Baby2
Broadway Star Joined: 11/10/14
#63Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/30/25 at 7:39am
Nicole gave one of the most memorable performances of a female lead I have ever seen. She is amazing- and I think she will be rewarded based on merit.
#64Tony Awards Race
Posted: 1/30/25 at 7:51am
For the performances I have seen—Shen, Hilty/Simard, and Scherzinger—I can say that these women were firing on all cylinders when I watched them.
Unfortunately, McDonald’s vocals were lacking, especially in the big numbers, which pulled me out of the world of the musical.
If I were a voter, my vote would go to Shen.
KevinKlawitter
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/21/20
KevinKlawitter
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/21/20
#66Tony Awards Race
Posted: 2/27/25 at 12:41pm
The Gold Derby Tony prediction center is active, for those who participate.
Given it's early on, some of the odds are weirdly skewed - Andrea Martin at the top of Featured Actress for McNeal? The Hills of California at the top of Score?
#67Tony Awards Race
Posted: 3/3/25 at 12:52pm
I have now seen both performances. Both are incredible. But I'd give it to Nicole. Audra is amazing, but Nicole truly does something so different and special with the role. She made me believe she was a washed-up silent star despite being young and beautiful.
I never thought I liked Sunset Blvd. Nicole made me a believer.
#68Tony Awards Race
Posted: 3/3/25 at 5:37pm
KevinKlawitter said: "The Gold Derby Tony prediction center is active, for those who participate.
Given it's early on, some of the odds are weirdly skewed - Andrea Martin at the top of Featured Actress forMcNeal?The Hills of Californiaat the top of Score?"
Gold Derby’s bread and butter has always been film and television. Not much activity or a robust community of theatre goers to speak of in my experience.
#69Tony Awards Race
Posted: 3/3/25 at 5:44pm
east side story said: "KevinKlawitter said: "The Gold Derby Tony prediction center is active, for those who participate.
Given it's early on, some of the odds are weirdly skewed - Andrea Martin at the top of Featured Actress forMcNeal?The Hills of Californiaat the top of Score?"
Gold Derby’s bread and butter has always been film and television. Not much activity or a robust community of theatre goers to speak of in my experience."
The predictions get a lot better much closer to Tony day.
mrshowbiz90210
Stand-by Joined: 12/16/24
#70Tony Awards Race
Posted: 3/3/25 at 6:25pm
My money is on Nicole. Audra is always epic but Nicole burns the house down every time and she redefined the role!
starlightlocamotion
Stand-by Joined: 1/22/14
#72Tony Awards Race
Posted: 3/3/25 at 8:32pm
I do think it's fascinating that people have not been keen on JOY WOODS in GYPSY ... yet she has a very strong chance to win a tony for her performance in an otherwise lacking featured category.
Ptero2
Featured Actor Joined: 6/18/22
#73Tony Awards Race
Posted: 3/3/25 at 8:46pm
starlightlocamotion said: "I do think it's fascinating that people have not been keen on JOY WOODS in GYPSY ... yet she has a very strong chance to win a tony for her performance in an otherwise lacking featured category."
I wonder if Mincemeat might try and category fraud Natasha Hodgson into featured. It would take her from fighting for just a nom in Leading to being win competitive.
theblackumbrella
Stand-by Joined: 5/30/19
#74Tony Awards Race
Posted: 3/3/25 at 10:16pm
I also think Audra winning would be a way to acknowledge Gavin Creel. Audra has spoken on Colbert and CBS - and I’m pretty sure every outlet that has covered this revival that at their shared thanksgivings years ago, Gavin told her she needed to play the role. I haven’t seen Audra, but have seen Nicole and found her breathtaking, but awards are mainly about narratives anyways.
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