Update: AIN'T NO MO extended thru December 23! Yay!- Page 11

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 12/15/22 at 10:52pm

RippedMan said: "As someone who is a white and VERY liberal, I do wonder if Broadway is overcorrecting itself with all these message type plays. And sorry for the generalization. I'd actually love to see Ain't No Mo, but I'm not currently in the city. But it, and a lot of other shows, feel very "preaching to the choir" and I don't feel the need to spend my $ on that notion."


The issue is that the audience has not caught up to the work, and the audience for plays is already extremely limited. "White plays" with no stars have a hard enough time, and that audience is somewhat more dependent than a full-priced Black ticketbuying public. Meanwhile, "traditional theatergoers" have lots of options from which to choose, on and off Broadway, and LEOPOLDSTADT is the rare modern hit play with no stars.

[haterobics]

Posted: 12/15/22 at 10:54pm

RippedMan said: "I do wonder if Broadway is overcorrecting itself with all these message type plays."

What grouping of message type plays are you trying to fit this into?!

[RippedMan]

Posted: 12/15/22 at 11:26pm

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "RippedMan said: "As someone who is a white and VERY liberal, I do wonder if Broadway is overcorrecting itself with all these message type plays. And sorry for the generalization. I'd actually love to see Ain't No Mo, but I'm not currently in the city. But it, and a lot of other shows, feel very "preaching to the choir" and I don't feel the need to spend my $ on that notion."


The issue is that the audience has not caught up to the work, and the audience for plays is already extremely limited. "White plays" with no stars have a hard enough time, and that audience is somewhat more dependent than a full-priced Black ticketbuying public. Meanwhile, "traditional theatergoers" have lots of options from which to choose, on and off Broadway, and LEOPOLDSTADT is the rare modern hit play with no stars."

Is Leopoldstadt not a "white play with no stars?" 

And to be fair, I haven't seen this show - again, would love to - so I it's fair my comment grouping it into a "message" play is just about what I've read online. My point, I guess, is just since the pandemic, we haven't really seen any "the Play that goes wrong" type shows. It's all been very heavy or heavy meaning shows. Which is fine, but maybe not what people want right now. 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 12/15/22 at 11:27pm

Also, interesting discussion happening on Reddit. 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/zmw636/its_a_very_tiring_viewpoint_and_a_terrible_way_to/

[popular_elphie]

Posted: 12/15/22 at 11:30pm

haterobics said: "So how does one see this show now? The only day I could attend would be Saturday. There is no matinee listed on Telecharge. No tickets available for the night show. Not on TDF.... what am I missing?! Some celebrity bought all the seats, but how does one see the show if they want to?"

 

You buy a ticket to the extension week is how. TDF and most tickets for the rest of the weekend sold quickly with the closing announcement and rallying cry to save the show.

 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 12/15/22 at 11:47pm

that's what i'm saying --- Leopoldstadt is the rare play without stars that's actually making money, and it helps that it overlaps with Broadway's most trusty demographic: the older Jewish folks.

As for your comment about a lack of comedies: it feels like there have been MANY shows that made me laugh since NY theatre reopened. Some successful, some not; some with issues, some not. Their track record has probably been about as good as the more serious or issue-driven shows. I've bolded the ones that recouped or appear to be selling decently right now.

Plays: Ain't No Mo, Plaza Suite (the one true hit play of last season), POTUS, Hangmen, Chicken & Biscuits, Clyde's, Fairycakes, Fat Ham, solo shows from Mike Birbiglia, Kate Berlant, and Jacqueline Novack. Musicals: Some Like It Hot, & Juliet, Mr. Sat Night, Doubtfire, the continued life of Beetlejuice, we still have Mormon, Off-Bway's Titanique and Stranger Sings. Plus shows that may not be hilarious but are slick and entertaining and kind of mindless, like MJ, Neil Diamond, and Harry Potter.

Updated On: 12/15/22 at 11:47 PM

[Penna2]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 12:24am

RippedMan said: "Also, interesting discussion happening on Reddit.



https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/zmw636/its_a_very_tiring_viewpoint_and_a_terrible_way_to/"

Fascinating, didn't real a whole lot, but there was a theme. Seems to boil down to what people value and how they want to spend their money. From many of the posts I read - Jordans or their equivalent make more sense logically in terms of use and resale potential. They are real and something you own and can reuse. Although there were a few arguments that the play was life altering and cultural events were important. Two comments I found particularly compelling. The first, which has been addressed here - "if it's so good, why did they reduce the price?" The other was to the effect of not caring for people telling black people what they should like, especially other black people.

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 8:24am

Some of y’all are really desperate to see this show shutter and go away. Hmmm.

[TheQuibbler]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 8:46am

Did we ever reach a consensus on what “buying out” a show means? Does that mean that all tickets are still on sale, so if I were to purchase a seat at $150, the production would essentially receive an additional $150 for that seat since it’s already been “purchased” by Tyler Perry (or whomever)?

[Phillyguy]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 9:04am

Or that the person buying out the show is paying $150 less since there’s one less seat to buy. 

Updated On: 12/16/22 at 09:04 AM

[BWAY Baby2]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 4:23pm

Ain't No Mo' takes audiences onboard Flight 1619 with Black Americans flying to Africa on one-way tickets provided by the U.S. government. The play explores the 'what if' scenario under the guidance of flight attendant Peaches, a role played by playwright Jordan E. Cooper----

The subject matter may be the reason it is not appealing to a wide cross section of people.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 5:03pm

It might have helped if the press release writer had actually described the subject matter because that ain't it.  

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 7:27pm

TheQuibbler said: "Did we ever reach a consensus on what “buying out” a show means? Does that mean that all tickets are still on sale, so if I were to purchase a seat at $150, the production would essentially receive anadditional$150 for that seat since it’s already been “purchased” by Tyler Perry (or whomever)?"

Seconding this because I can't get a ticket for next week at all now.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 8:00pm

Not good if these buy outs are preventing the average Joe from getting a ticket. 

[Penna2]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 8:56pm

ACL2006 said: "Not good if these buy outs are preventing the average Joe from getting a ticket."

As I noted a couple of days ago: you can't just throw something like this together at the last minute. The producers screwed up with initial marketing and now a lot of well-intentioned celebrities have bought out the house for a few nights and are sending notices for friends to come to the show. However, it doesn't appear that any accommodations were made for the general public to actually buy a ticket...or even some sort of organized give-aways.

Is there anyone involved in this show with management background?

 

[LuPita2]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 9:44pm

LuPita2 - You seem to be in the know. Can you explain what's going on? Is the show closing on the 18th? If not is there a plan? Tickets are still on sale for next week, but very few are bought."

I apologize, Im just seeing this now. I avoided this thread due to the casual racism and gross comments that are still happening. There are so many more positive threads on social media including Reddit but yes, just the negative one was linked here. Ew.

Anyways, the two lovely posters informed you it extended until the 23rd and it might go beyond that now that it's on people's radars. The celebs who bought out performances just write a check so it's up to a whole team of people to sort out the details and distribute tickets to a population of people. Some tickets are going to people in the industry and some will go to people that otherwise could not afford it. They still are dealing with the rest to get out of the general public for those interested. I don't think they were expecting this so be patient and give the incredible people involved grace during this beautiful holiday season. 

 

Updated On: 12/16/22 at 09:44 PM

[ACL2006]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 10:14pm

Penna2 said: "ACL2006 said: "Not good if these buy outs are preventing the average Joe from getting a ticket."

As I noted a couple of days ago: you can't just throw something like this together at the last minute. The producers screwed up with initial marketing and now a lot of well-intentioned celebrities have bought out the house for a few nights and are sending notices for friends to come to the show. However, it doesn't appear that any accommodations were made for the general public to actually buy a ticket...or even some sort of organized give-aways.

Is there anyone involved in this show with management background?

"

Since celebrities keep buying out shows, should it be assumed they'll announce another extension either Sunday or Monday? It is piss-poor management to keep the show afloat like this and keep doing one-week extensions out of desperation.

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 10:34pm

LuPita2 said: "LuPita2 - You seem to be in the know. Can you explain what's going on? Is the show closing on the 18th? If not is there a plan? Tickets are still on sale for next week, but very few are bought."

I apologize, Im just seeing this now. I avoided this thread due to the casual racism and gross comments that are still happening. There are so many more positive threads on social media including Reddit but yes, just the negative one was linked here. Ew.

Anyways, the two lovely posters informed you it extended until the 23rd and it might go beyond that now that it's on people's radars. The celebs who bought out performances just write a check so it's up to a whole team of people to sort out the details and distribute tickets to a population of people. Some tickets are going to people in the industry and some will go to people that otherwise could not afford it. They still are dealing with the rest to get out of the general public for those interested. I don't think they were expecting this so be patient and give the incredible people involved grace during this beautiful holiday season.

According to the closing notice, this all happens before the major holidays coming up. Happy the show got the extension but seems a shame if the houses aren’t packed full. 

[Phillyguy]

Posted: 12/16/22 at 11:14pm

It’s a shame I’ll be back in NYC next week. Initially I thought it was closing so I bought tix to other shows. Now I can’t even find tix because they might be bought out. The intention of the show is to reach out to those who have been left out of Broadway. I’m not sure how this publicity stunt is helping the outreach other than keeping the company employed for a bit longer. 

[A Director]

Posted: 12/17/22 at 5:20am

Why don't all you theatre mavens get together and  write a book on how to promote a show  on Broadway in the early 2020s. Don't worry if you have no experience in promotion, your ideas matter.

[JasonC3]

Posted: 12/17/22 at 7:26am

Actual critiques of the ideas others might be more helpful than a veiled retort that doesn't really add to the conversation.

Updated On: 12/17/22 at 07:26 AM

[RippedMan]

Posted: 12/17/22 at 8:50am

Haven't seen the show, so unsure of the subject matter regarding age, but I hope they're able to get some high school age kids in for these bought shows. Think it would be nice to get some of the younger generation in and inspire them to enjoy theater and live entertainment. 

[quizking101]

Posted: 12/17/22 at 9:35am

RippedMan said: "Haven't seen the show, so unsure of the subject matter regarding age, but I hope they're able to get some high school age kids in for these bought shows. Think it would be nice to get some of the younger generation in and inspire them to enjoy theater and live entertainment."

I would assuredly say this is NOT a show for that demographic. Granted, thresholds on appropriate content vary and I could definitely see the 16+ set being amused by some of the proceedings, but overall, I think it's mostly intended for an adult audience - just based on the conceit of some of the sketches alone (The abortion one and the prison one come to mind)

[RippedMan]

Posted: 12/17/22 at 2:09pm

quizking101 said: "RippedMan said: "Haven't seen the show, so unsure of the subject matter regarding age, but I hope they're able to get some high school age kids in for these bought shows. Think it would be nice to get some of the younger generation in and inspire them to enjoy theater and live entertainment."

I would assuredly say this is NOT a show for that demographic. Granted, thresholds on appropriate content vary and I could definitely see the 16+ set being amused by some of the proceedings, but overall, I think it's mostly intended for an adult audience - just based on the conceit of some of the sketches alone (The abortion one and the prison one come to mind)"

Well then, NVM

[yyys]

Posted: 12/17/22 at 5:23pm

telecharge is now selling tickets thru 2/26/2023

Updated On: 12/17/22 at 05:23 PM