UncleCharlie said: "The old "if anyone was offended by my actions, I want to apologize to them" apology.Props to his publicists and attorneys for pulling that together so quickly and on a Sunday night with the World Series on, no less."
Honestly, an apology with an "if" in it is fake at best. If harm is done, just admit it already.
"Several" House Of Cards employees come forward with their accounts:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/house-of-cards-kevin-spacey-sexual-harassment_us_59fba382e4b0415a420ab032?section=us_queer-voices&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000054
Gee...Surprise, Surprise...Not!
Kad is right, "it's where the bodies are..."
Steve C. said: ""Several" House Of Cards employees come forward with their accounts:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/house-of-cards-kevin-spacey-sexual-harassment_us_59fba382e4b0415a420ab032?section=us_queer-voices&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000054
Gee...Surprise, Surprise...Not!
Kad is right, "it's where the bodies are...""
I posted that this was happening based on direct reports from people I know on that crew and BWW removed my post. WTF?!
I read in an article somewhere (not sure which one) that Netflix is still considering possible spinoffs. Honestly I like that idea. They could just end House of Cards now and do a one or two season spinoff to conclude the story with the rest of the characters and leave Spacey out of it. That takes care of the problem of him being an executive producer as well.
theatregoer3 said: "I posted that this was happening based on direct reports from people I know on that crew and BWW removed my post. WTF?!"
You're not a reliable source. You're some random, anonymous Internet voice on a message board. I certainly wouldn't believe you and no one, other than a tabloid, would.
And the site has a due diligence obligation to not be complicit in what may be indefensible defamation. A poster may very well have good reason to think he or she is repeating what comes from reliable first hand sources. But, obviously the site has no way of confirming that.
..yet they like to scoop up rumors posted on here as "Rialto chatter."
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/06
Anyone notice how Amazon pulled Spacey’s Tonys opening number from their instant video downloads of this year’s telecast?
A noticeable portion of this site’s articles news articles are based on heresay that gets posted to this board.
Even the Spider-Man tell all book pointed out that folks on this board flat out lied in noticible ways and this site did nothing. That’s indefensible defamation, no? Their policies haven’t shifted that greatly since then, have they?
I totally get that I’m not a reliable resource - sound argument. Makes absolute sense. But then why are other anonymous posters considered reliable enough to get their rumors put up on the site’s main newsfeed?
Not all rumors, even false ones, are defamatory in that not all of them are likely to cause the kind of harm to a named person's reputation that rises to an actionable level. I'm not familiar with what kinds of rumors this site culls from posts to adopt for publication as "Rialto chatter"; are any of them of criminal behavior or sexual harassment, or otherwise likely to rise to defamation if they were untrue?
Broadway Star Joined: 6/21/15
theatregoer3 said: "Their policies haven’t shifted that greatly since then, have they?"
In terms of posts? They have changed drastically since Muringate, and I've only been lurking since 2015. Implementation is inconsistent, which I get, as it somewhat relies on self-policing to a degree.
You’re limiting this discussion to defimation against individuals. What about an LLC? There’s libel against various LLC’s in these boards all the time. A fourth of the posts on this board are people calling out lies made againt LLC’s - some
of which it could be argued could cause a loss in profit.
...and now, we learn production was halted and the writers are rewriting parts of or possibly all of the last season of "HOC" without, what's his name...
SPACEY HAS BEEN FIRED FROM HOUSE OF CARDS.
Tgod for Netflix. Just another reason for it to be my favorite company.
Can we have Anthony Rapp in at least a guest spot?
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/18/07
Spacey's career is over.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/kevin-spacey-more-accusations-secrets-abuse?utm_term=.bmZpA0A4zy#.by2vP8PeQ1
What was Anthony Rapp doing in Kevin Spacey's bedroom to begin with?
In response to libel/slander suits, they rarely go anywhere. Though, my favorite was when Liberace won a libel suit because somebody claimed he was gay. lol
The elements of libel include:
However, by the time these suits make their way through court, these matters are dealt with out-of-court. I could go more into it, if you all would like that, but it's quite boring (though, my nerdy self, LOVES IT!)
Sassy Sam? More like Smarty Sam! Great info!
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
As someone recently posted, his career is over (and I don't much care, as I have never really been much of a Spacey fan).
On the other hand, while deep down I do believe that he is probably guilty, it bothers me that there is no 'innocent until proven guilty' premise here. This is particularly concerning, when people are coming out of the woodworks everywhere (e.g., George HW Bush, Dustin Hoffman); I am sure that some of these accusations are opportunistic and reminiscent of scenes from The Crucible.
In this new Trump era, go for the jugular and ask questions later.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/16
Why are people praising Netflix? This was a business decision. He’s been abusing cast and crew members for years. They had to know about it. Now the public finds out and they cancel the show because it would hurt their bottom line. He wasn’t fired for what he did, he was fired because we found out
I do wonder what the deciding moment was for Rapp when he decided to come out publically with the information after 30 years. It must have been a very difficult decision to make. To be a fly on the wall......
I wonder if Trump’s sexual harassment tape came out now whether the public response would have been different. It really does seem like there has been a bit of a cultural change and I wonder if the public would give Trump such a pass.
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