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Miss Jezebel DuPree2
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Posted: 3/31/17 at 3:25pm

Mr. Karl needs to take off his shirt NOW!

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#326GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 3/31/17 at 3:32pm

I don't want to drift too off-topic, but I keep coming back to newintown's statement about screenwriters failing as librettists.

What would be an example of a "film moment" that just wouldn't work if written into a book musical, and why?


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WiCkEDrOcKS
#327GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 3/31/17 at 4:00pm

I loved this show so much.

It takes about 20 minutes to really get into gear, but I think that's just the nature of the plot.  I loved the score, the book, the orchestrations, the sets...  The direction is total genius and Andy Karl is brilliant.  It's my favorite new musical of this season (so far).

canadian fan
#328GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 3/31/17 at 4:04pm

WiCkEDrOcKS said: "I loved this show so much.

It takes about 20 minutes to really get into gear, but I think that's just the nature of the plot.  I loved the score, the book, the orchestrations, the sets...  The direction is total genius and Andy Karl is brilliant.  It's my favorite new musical of this season (so far).


 

Wow wickedrocks, that's a great review! Nice to hear, I'm teetering on having buyers remorse, but this gives me assurance I will have a great time! :) 

 

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newintown
#329GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 3/31/17 at 4:21pm

"What would be an example of a "film moment" that just wouldn't work if written into a book musical, and why?"

My favorite is from Summer of 42; in the film, when Hermie comes to see Dorothy, finds the telegram about her husband, she comes in, dances with him, then takes him off to the bedroom - no dialogue, lots of close-ups, the only sound the record on the player and the scratching as it ends, not a word of dialogue. In the musical, they added all sorts of extraneous dialogue and lyrics, which diminished the scene enormously, turning something poetically beautiful into something trite and idiotic.

Jarethan
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Posted: 3/31/17 at 4:28pm

DAME said: "Andy Karl for me is the James Naughton of the last few seasons.  But James had better shows .

I have always liked James Naughton, starting with I Love My Wife, which represents the first time I can recall being aware of him. But, re his 2 Tony's, they were both won in pretty easy years for males.  He was fine in Chicago, but he didn't come close to Jerry Orbach.  Re City of Angels, he was very good...again, not much competition if you ask me...my view was that someone had to win and Naughton was the co-lead in the musical that was going to win the Tony the year.

I guess that is a very good analogy that you use.  Andy Karl is a talented guy who may become a star if he ever lands a great role in a great show.  There is a lot of luck there.  I just get tired of the posts that say it is terrible that he hasn't won a Tony yet.  It is a real shame that Danny Burstein (and Rebecca Luker, for that matter) hasn't won a Tony, not that Andy Karl hasn't.  His time may come, but no reason he should have won one to date.

 

 

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pupscotch
#331GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 3/31/17 at 11:12pm

I finally caught this tonight, and I absolutely adored it. I thought it was extremely entertaining and fun and found a way to literally repeat numbers and days but kept me captivated the entire time. Barrett Doss and Andy Karl are both absolutely spectacular, and I loved the score. I saw a lot of American Psycho in this show, weirdly. I really hope it does well, and it seemed close to full, and I was in the mezzanine. 

TenuousBond
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Posted: 4/1/17 at 1:07am

Saw it tonight as well. It was pretty fun and creative, but I hope I'll be able to remember some of it lol. Nothing immediately stands out. Theater did seem full, which is interesting because it seemed empty based on the available tickets I saw earlier in the afternoon. Seeing it with a lotto ticket price was worth it, but I'm not sure if I would pay full price.

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lczvera
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Posted: 4/1/17 at 6:34pm

Just came back from the matinee today, the turntable had some technical issue during the 2nd act 2nd number, the audience are very supportive and I hope they can fix all turntable problems before opening.

It's a very charming show, and I've never watched the movie before. I love the twist and I think I appreciate the show even more than my friend who've seen the movie before. Two of my favorate songs are both in 2nd act and by supporting characters.

 
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It's pretty mush Edge of Tomorrow meet About Time, and the director managed to make it not cheesy but very lovely.

 

mamaleh
#334GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/1/17 at 7:13pm

Saw the full show last night, having seen only the infamous--but fun--first preview that turned into a truncated concert version. The staging makes a big difference--it's extremely creative with beautiful set pieces to boot.  Andy Karl is priceless, so funny and quite touching at the right times. His voice is smooth as glass.  Barrett Doss is very effective as well, as are all the supporting players.  Only a few of the songs stand out, but the score works to further the story and fill out character.  The show deserves a decent run. 

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Polka Dot2
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Posted: 4/2/17 at 12:13am

Saw it tonight and LOVED it. Andy Karl is a god. Very creative staging some of which is still baffling me. I plan on seeing it again. Orchestra was packed and the audience was eating up every minute. 

Trish2
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Posted: 4/3/17 at 2:52pm

I have a question about rush for this show. Since I've never done rush before, if I go sometime today before lets say 7pm, is there a chance I might get one? Also, are rush seats always partial view or first row? Or can they sometimes be a good orchestra or mezz seat? Thanks!

matineeidol2591
#337GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 2:35am

I rushed today, arrived at 8:30am, and was 2nd in line. There were probably 15-20 people by the time the office opened at 10am. My seats were on the extreme sides in row C orchestra. Thats all the info I can help you out with. 

I thought the show was good. 'Book of Mormon' lite, if you will. The humor is very contemporary and the full house audience ate every joke up. The staging is exceptionally complex, so special kudos to the cast and crew who had to move set pieces on and off three constantly revolving turntables. I think the show has wide appeal and suspect it will fare well come Tony time. 

 

10086sunset
#338GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 9:48am

While seeing this last night, I kept thinking about Mr. Roxy.

I wish he was still around. Would have loved to read his likely rant on the show.

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themysteriousgrowl
#339GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 10:33am

Add me to the list of enthusiastic supporters. I’d heard the music via an audio boot beforehand and enjoyed it, my first exposure to Minchin. The film is dear to me. Those were my biases going in.

The musical puts the movie’s themes on steroids. Part of what makes the movie so breezy and charming despite its inherently nightmarish central premise is how it sort of skips from moment to moment, never lingering too long on its oscillations between dark comedy and outright silliness (which also sometimes overlap). The musical moves rapidly, both in its dramatic pacing and whirligig design tricks, but when it slows to consider the anguishing periods of Phil’s situation, as in “Hope” and “Night Will Come,” it’s fairly harrowing and profound stuff for a musical comedy.

Andy Karl eschews Bill Murray’s winking, ironic cynicism for a purer cynicism, a cynicism so pervasive that you can’t imagine how he’ll ever change or how Rita (or you) could ever come around to him, even though you know that’s where the story will eventually ask you to go. He’s a more despicable protagonist than Murray’s Phil Connors or, say, Jack Nicholson’s Melvin Udall, each of whom still had, I guess, a natural charm. Andy Karl’s Phil is so calculated, phony, and self-obsessed that you want to hit him even when he’s making you laugh. The show puts him through his acting and vocal paces, and he meets and exceeds every challenge head on. It’s a truly impressive star performance.

Barrett Doss’ Rita is tough, romantic, and very affecting, more nuanced and guarded than Andie MacDowell, whose emotional walls seemed only to exist for Phil to knock them down as the story required. I’m not sure if that’s the movie’s writing or MacDowell’s performance, but Doss’ Rita is fully realized. You can sort of imagine her entire past up to where you’re meeting her in her life. She neurotic and self-possessed and funny, and her arc(s) is (are) compelling.

I was a little perplexed that the character of Larry, the cameraman, is fairly sidelined, especially since Ned and Nancy and the drunks are more fleshed out, but then maybe it’s Chris Elliott’s great performance in the movie that makes the character seem more significant than he is.

The doctors’ song should be cut or turned into a series of telescopic book scenes. It feels like it’s from a different show. “Playing Nancy” is a lovely song, beautifully performed by Rebecca Faulkenberry, and I like the idea of it as the Act 2 opener, but it could be truncated. IDK. I’m conflicted about this. I get where people are coming from. The show could lose 10-15 minutes, and that’s a natural cut. But the music also really soars whenever the show pauses to meditate, and that would be a shame to lose. Anyway, it’s a moot point since it sounds like, because of the complexity of the programming, big changes aren’t being made. So c’est la guerre. Sure, the show could be leaner, but even SWEENEY TODD has cut-able material.

I wholly disagree that Danny Rubin adheres slavishly to his screenplay and agree that, if that were true, it would spell disaster. Yes, the well-known bits and one-liners are mostly intact, but they work – because they’re solid, because they’re funny, and because the show’s tech often cleverly transmogrifies in presenting them. But where it departs, as it must for an entirely different form of storytelling, it is unafraid to depart significantly and usually in favor of character development. The short bits and one-liners are often verbatim, but a lot, if not most, of the more extensive scene dialogue has been rewritten and a few new scenes added. It really does expand on all of the humor, pain, strangeness, and romanticism of the story, and the songs and musical sequences, save the ones mentioned above, are naturally and logically integrated.

It’s a pretty weird musical, much more unconventional than I expected, and I’m thinking as much about it still as I am about A DOLL’S HOUSE, PART 2 and GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM, which I saw the following day. The audience uniformly leapt to its feet at lights down, before the first bow – at least the parts of the audience I could see, which was all of the orchestra and the first few rows of the mezz. Of course, word of mouth may not keep it alive for long, but in my estimation, it more than deserves to find an audience and run.


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After Eight
#340GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 10:54am

"While seeing this last night, I kept thinking about Mr. Roxy.

I wish he was still around."

So do I. He contributed a great deal to this board.

"Would have loved to read his likely rant on the show."

Let's hope he was lucky enough to have escaped the ordeal of sitting through this horrible show! 

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CukorLover
#341GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 11:32am

Thanks for that review, themysteriousgrowl.  can I ask the running time last night? Thanks!

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themysteriousgrowl
#342GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 11:46am

 

I saw it Saturday night, and it was 2:45.


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#343GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 12:48pm

Mysteriousgrowl's take on the film's style and effortless tone is so spot on, I realized why it's such a  charmer, outside of the premise/conceit, its charms hard to quantify and expound on. And so hard to adapt to a form which requires that a very different set of pace and tone challenges be met.  Those observations makes me trust his corresponding appraisal of the show,. Thanks. I am going.


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#345GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 2:17pm

TrChSpHa said: "http://www.broadway.com/buzz/188143/exclusive-hear-andy-karl-barrett-doss-groundhog-days-fantastic-cast-sing-if-i-had-my-time-again/

First song released from the cast recording, one of my favorites in the show.
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Would you say that this song is representational of the overall score, or that this is an exception to the rest?


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#346GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 2:30pm

TrChSpHa said: "http://www.broadway.com/buzz/188143/exclusive-hear-andy-karl-barrett-doss-groundhog-days-fantastic-cast-sing-if-i-had-my-time-again/

First song released from the cast recording, one of my favorites in the show.
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I enjoyed that much more than I expected.


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Skimbleshanks2
#347GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 2:54pm

It sounds worse on the recording than it does on stage...Even ANDY KARL's voice kinda sounds off??

I have seen the show three times now (going a fourth time this month; and in September, assuming it's still, you know...) I wish it had better music tbh... I feel like my love of it is waning a bit. Ugh! But my husband and I are going soon so if he likes it I know I'll love it again!!


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RippedMan
#348GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 3:10pm

I think that's one of the best songs in the show. Catchiest, at least. I think Rita's Act 1 song is my favorite. 

JustAnotherNewYorker
#349GROUNDHOG DAY Previews
Posted: 4/4/17 at 4:00pm

Skimbleshanks2 said: "It sounds worse on the recording than it does on stage...Even ANDY KARL's voice kinda sounds off??

I have seen the show three times now (going a fourth time this month; and in September, assuming it's still, you know...) I wish it had better music tbh... I feel like my love of it is waning a bit. Ugh! But my husband and I are going soon so if he likes it I know I'll love it again!!
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I'll see it for a fourth time Friday. I'll get at least a fifth in before it opens. 

Love Tim Minchin, but "If I had my time again" wouldn't have been my choice of first to drop. My favorites are "Nobody Cares" and "Night will come", but I think they wanted a song with both Barrett and Andy, so it was this one, "one day" or "seeing you". Seeing you would have been a better choice, but I think they avoided it since it's the finale and since there's already video of Tim Singing it.


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