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David10086 said: "Colton Ryan is just not doing it for me in the lead. He has no sex appeal, no sizzle as a lead in this. Clyde Alves, on the other hand, would be great (IMO). And Janet Dacal would make a lovely Francine opposite him."

100%!!! Clyde - sexier and Janet - sassier are far more interesting performers... both of them from the clips just seem so so eh nothing special. Clyde and Janet have better voices as well. Colton is soooooooooo boring in everything that I've seen so far associated with this musical. Uzele doesn't impress either....Big questions here is: Why them? Here that Stro?

Updated On: 2/1/23 at 10:20 PM

I was watching the first episode of Poker Face on Peacock which was cute by the way, and Colton Ryan was quite good in it. I had no idea he was also a musical theatre talent. A formidable actor who sings very well and is an interesting actor to watch. I think he will have a very solid film and television career. He, like Johnathan Groff, had some good teachers along the way.

wickedwitch2 said: "Add me to the list that thinks Colton comes off as a charisma void in the trailer. It's really bad. I only hope it's less noticeable on stage."

His voice has shades of Kermit the Frog and Billy Crystal, possibly because of the artificial 1940s “spin” he’s trying to put on it.

He also reads so young (not a criticism, I don’t know how old these folks are supposed to be).

La La Land is essentially a remake of NY, NY so the comparison is apt. I've always wanted to know Scorsese's opinion on it. It rips so many elements of his story but got 10x the acclaim of New York, New York.

Mr. Ryan has considerable sex appeal and he unquestionably sings beautifully.

A bit early for bashing, isn't it?

Updated On: 2/2/23 at 11:39 PM

David10086 said: "shocktheatre said: "Mr. Ryan has considerable sex appeal and he unquestionably sings beautifully.

A bit early for bashing, isn't it?

"

I haven’t read any bashing. I’ve read opinions of his performance based on the trailer released, which is supposed to entice theater goers into buying tickets."

Personally, I feel when someone says "Colton Ryan is just not doing it for me in the lead. He has no sex appeal, no sizzle as a lead in this." we're in bashing territory -- or at least bashing-adjecent. That take on Colton Ryan also seems to be contradictory that it's just based on the video, too -- that's a helluva proclaimation to base on 30ish seconds of a trailer, for a show no one here truly knows anything of substance about. Not to mention, sex appeal and sizzle are subjective.

I've been following this thread for a while and think this brand new, never-seen-before, world premiere musical isn't getting a fair shake. Condemning a brand spanking new show based on "one* short trailer, a decades old divisive movie-cum-source material, plus some very personal opinions ...I don't know. Not nearly enough evidence to relegate this (as of yet unseen!) show to the trash bin of flops, that it's DOA. To extrapolate out the quality of the show based on, at best, quite subjective opinions isn't the most honest approach. Truth is, it's all conjecture how this piece will turn out -- I wish people would remember that. You know, book/cover/judging, and all that.

TheatreMonkey said: "David10086 said: "shocktheatre said: "Mr. Ryan has considerable sex appeal and he unquestionably sings beautifully.

A bit early for bashing, isn't it?

"

I haven’t read any bashing. I’ve read opinions of his performance based on the trailer released, which is supposed to entice theater goers into buying tickets."

Personally, I feel when someone says "Colton Ryan is just not doing it for me in the lead. He has no sex appeal, no sizzle as a lead in this." we're in bashing territory -- or at least bashing-adjecent. That take on Colton Ryan also seems to be contradictory that it's just based on the video, too -- that's a helluva proclaimation to base on 30ish seconds of a trailer, for a show no one here truly knows anything of substance about. Not to mention, sex appeal and sizzle are subjective.

I've been following this thread for a while and think this brand new, never-seen-before, world premiere musical isn't getting a fair shake. Condemning a brand spanking new show based on "one* short trailer, a decades old divisive movie-cum-source material, plus some very personal opinions ...I don't know. Not nearly enough evidence to relegate this (as of yet unseen!) show to the trash bin of flops, that it's DOA. To extrapolate out the quality of the show based on, at best, quite subjective opinions isn't the most honest approach. Truth is, it's all conjecture how this piece will turn out -- I wish people would remember that. You know, book/cover/judging, and all that."

Then perhaps the answer is to stop making faux movie trailers for B'way shows. Just a thought. Sell what you actually have when you actually have it. I think all these "dropped" trailers are not helping shows, frankly, especially the ones that are the antithesis of, you know, theater.

First come the opinions.

Then come the opinions about the opinions.

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

Updated On: 2/3/23 at 06:22 AM

RippedMan said: "I also think sex appeal is a very outdated concept."

Uh you must have missed everyone's White Lotus obsession. Sex still sells.

KJisgroovy said: "Why are they being so cagey?"

Because they want to sell tickets.

shocktheatre said: "Mr. Ryan has considerable sex appeal and he unquestionably sings beautifully.

A bit early for bashing, isn't it?

"

Beautifully? I would not call his singing voice beautiful at all!

It doesn’t appear this is selling well so LMM should WANT to be trotted out and help sell tickets.