Nicole Scherzinger- Page 5

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 8:32am

bwayobsessed said: "verywellthensigh said: "bwayobsessed said: "Lavieboheme3090 said: "Well she literally just posted an apology where she states what her political views actually are..."

she said nothing about not supporting the fascist"

This. Is. Not. The. Crucible.

Move on."

We’re already living in the Crucible, you move on"

"We're already living in The Crucible "?  Clearly you are.

Seek therapy.

[ViniFromBrazil]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 8:48am

I'm also not from the US but I've found binau's posts just ridiculous, I'm sorry. Being from a country that experienced neo-fascism and is still trying to get rid of it (at least we were able to make our Trump ineligible), I just find it from ludicrous to hilarious the trick conservatives have pulled on you all. They mock you from front to back, say you're evil, demonic, eats children and all of that, and the ones who don't rightfully condemn this craziness can look at a MAGA hat that replaces whatever with "Jesus" and claim "well, I love Jesus" and still make you feel so embarrassed about giving it back to them that you prefer to fight about "freedom of expression". They really can get away with everything it seems. 

[AlmostFamous3]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 8:56am

People seriously need to pick their battles. Getting outraged over what someone may or may not have liked on Instagram is a waste of energy. We’re in a world facing real issues. If someone’s alleged political preference is enough to send you into a frenzy, maybe it’s time to reassess priorities. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, whether or not it fits your personal narrative, and this obsession with 'cancelling' is only making things worse. To be clear, this isn’t about undermining anyone’s fear or worries about Trump or the impact his actions have had on people’s lives—those concerns are real. But this kind of reaction over some Instagram likes is misplaced energy that could be used for actual change.

And in this rush to exchange tickets for Mandy's performances… those shows were severely underperforming in sales, and now, thanks to the outrage, they might actually see a small surge. Ironically, this backlash is doing the production a massive favor by boosting ticket sales exactly where they needed it. Plus, it frees up more of Nicole’s shows for general audiences who want to see her and are willing to pay top dollar for those tickets. In the end, everyone gets what they want—and the production benefits big time. Sometimes, outrage has a funny way of backfiring.

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 9:00am

binau said: "Nanci Pelosi finally calling out Biden. This is where the energy needs to be directed! Shame, shame on the Democratic leadership for allowing this to happen."

Finally LOL. She is basically the one who gave the critical shove to get him out of the race. 

If I was to apportion any shame or blame, it would be on Biden himself.  He has done some amazing things and had he publicly embraced being a one-term President from the onset, he would have set better chances for the Democratic nominee.  I can understand why he opted not to do so, but his age was always going to be an issue.

But as I read more and more analysis of the voting data, I'm sadly not sure any Democrat would have won this go around.

 

[binau]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 9:00am

What continues to frustrate me is that you just lost an election and you lost it big. And you’re all looking to point fingers and find people to blame, such as Nicole Scherzinger who is probably some dumb Christian who would vote for what ever republican was on the ticket. But none of you look in a mirror and ask not WHO votes for Trump but WHY? We have been failed by Democratic leadership who put their own interests first before the interests of the American people by clinging onto power for so long, who did have some genuine policy failures that left themselves exposed and whose campaign strategy was ineffective. The best way to move forward is to reflect, learn and evolve ready for 2028 and try to get along with each other. Instead you want to continue this fighting to what end? It doesn’t work. We just saw it doesn’t work. 

[binau]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 9:02am

JasonC3 said: "binau said: "Nanci Pelosi finally calling out Biden. This is where the energy needs to be directed! Shame, shame on the Democratic leadership for allowing this to happen."

Finally LOL. She is basically the one who gave the critical shove to get him out of the race.

If I was to apportion any shame or blame, it would be on Biden himself. He has done some amazing things and had he publicly embraced being a one-term President from the onset, he would have set better chances for the Democratic nominee. I can understand why he opted not to do so, but his age was always going to be an issue.

But as I read more and more analysis of the voting data, I'm sadly not sure any Democrat would have won this go around.

"

This is exactly what I’m saying. Nancy is saying what I think we’re all thinking! Biden should not have done this. 

[ViniFromBrazil]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 9:06am

Also, the cordial reaction to that instagram post has also been as funny as ridiculous. Years ago before Trumpism I believe we had the necessary amount of brain cells to read a clear PR statement as it is. But now, because Trump won people are afraid their friendly neighbors are secret MAGA we read stuff like that and are forced to see people claiming it is "coming from a place of honesty". It's just baffling, it comes from a word salad just as fake as people hugging trees to save the environment.

I really thought trump winning would show people that cancel culture is a myth, shaming and humiliation will do nothing to powerful people's public view and as long as you're perceived as in the majority you can get away with anything. Speaking from experience I can bet that the same people saying we "shouldn't cancel Nicole" or should "pick our battles" are not out on the streets organizing and pressuring politicians so what's the difference? Go on and shame whoever you want. She'll be fine!

[devonian.t]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 9:56am

We live in the post-shame world.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 10:09am

Why is Woody Allen so cancelled, but not Michael Jackson?

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 10:10am

binau said: "What continues to frustrate me is that you just lost an election and you lost it big. And you’re all looking to point fingers and find people to blame, such as Nicole Scherzinger who is probably some dumb Christian who would vote for what ever republican was on the ticket. But none of you look in a mirror and ask not WHO votes for Trump but WHY? We have been failed by Democratic leadership who put their own interests first beforethe interests of the American people by clinging onto power for so long, who did have some genuine policy failures that left themselves exposed and whose campaign strategy was ineffective. The best way to move forward is to reflect, learn and evolve ready for 2028 and try to get along with each other. Instead you want to continue this fighting to what end? It doesn’t work. We just saw it doesn’t work."

You're obviously a thoughtful person, but your grasp of American politics increasingly seems generic, overly broad, and without much understanding of the complex dynamics in play in this specific election, as well as the Democratic Party overall.

Incumbent parties around the world have mostly lost elections post-pandemic. That this ended up also being true in America is not particularly surprising when digging into the data nor was it a big loss by most historical measures. Many people seem to think it was because of their intense shock that Trump won.  I get that and it was my initial reaction as well, but if you read the people who are examining the trends and data (and more of it will come out), the Republican candidate winning is less surprising nor do they suggest another Democrat would have won ... even had they performed better than Harris ultimately did.

Ironically, the vast majority of red counties have financially benefited more from the policies and investments of the Biden administration (the Inflation Reduction Act to name just one) than those counties that tend to vote Democratic.  And once again, if Trump is able to successfully implement some of his major policy promises (tariffs, mass deportation, dismantling and/or replacing the ACA ... to name a few)) tens of millions of Americans will find they were far better served by Biden and Democrats.

Updated On: 11/9/24 at 10:10 AM

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 10:14am

Reagan/Mondale was a Republican landslide.

This was not that.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 10:40am

Jay Lerner-Z said: "Why is Woody Allen so cancelled, but not Michael Jackson?"

I mean Michael Jackson is dead, so I'd argue he's more definitively canceled. 

The real reason Woody Allen getting canceled is sticking, as much as I'd love it to be because people believe Dylan Farrow, is because Allen got old. 

Clint Eastwood has likely just directed his last film, and it's not related to any scandal. He just had a couple of movies underperform and it's harder to get insurance on pictures when the director is in their late 80s/90s.    

Updated On: 11/9/24 at 10:40 AM

[Peter Barker]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 10:56am

Donald Trump was elected president and people are mad at an actress for comments she made?

Priorities are completely out of whack. 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 11:12am

I don’t think it’s because he’s gotten old, Jonathan. He’s still making movies, he just has to go to Europe now to do it. His last movie was entirely in French.

I wonder if MJ’s accusers were women/girls, would things be different. His (alleged) victims can be platformed by even Oprah and still nobody seems to care.

Anyway, I’ve probably wandered too far off course for this conversation on Nicole.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 11:42am

Although R Brand’s accusers are female, and Nicole hasn’t canceled him.

[kdogg36]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 12:11pm

binau said: "you just lost an election and you lost it big"

This isn't really true at all. It's a very modest win, in all respects, by historical standards. Obama's 2008 win, along with the Democratic wins in Congress, were way, way bigger. We're just used to razor-thin margins form the previous two elections.

Updated On: 11/9/24 at 12:11 PM

[jkcohen626]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 12:23pm

Seems like some people here have more sense than the rest of the internet (which often happens with these types of "scandals"). My two cents that I've been looking for the right choir to preach to is this: It is absolutley your right to not spend your hard-earned money seeing a show starring someone you disagree with and I recognize that the wounds are VERY fresh right now. But, we are going to be so screwed for so long if this is really people's reaction to finding out that ONE woman MAYBE voted for him. 30% of the City and 44% of the state voted for Trump! He did better in New York state than Kamala did in Texas and Florida. And he won this election on persuasion. The purity test "base turnout" theory of politics has to die. It doesn't work. We need to fix our problems and win back people we lost to him this year. It's possible. But, not when people have meltdowns over finding out that someone isn't a Democrat. We'll continue to lose until we're mature enough to make a serious attempt to win people back. 

[CreatureKitchen]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 1:00pm

I know this is nitpicky but: 95% of registered Republicans who voted in this election voted for Trump. That is almost exactly the same percentage of registered Republicans who voted for Trump last election (and Biden still won).

Democrats need to stop compromising their positions and appealing to these voters who have proven they're not going to shift. They lost because Dem voters/undecided voters were unmotivated and stayed home. They need to energize those people, not waste time appealing to the registered Republicans.

[dshnookie]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 1:02pm

How about everybody take a break and volunteer at their local food bank or battered women’s shelter, etc. and then reassess if it’s worth returning to this conversation? 

[binau]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 1:07pm

Independent Senator Bernie Sanders, who ran for president as a Democrat in 2016 and 2020, accused the party in a lengthy statement of abandoning working people. "While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change," he wrote. "And they’re right." He argued Democrats probably wouldn't learn from the election outcome. But Democratic National Committee Chairman Jaime Harrison responded on X that Sanders' accusation was "straight up BS".

 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 1:19pm

Bernie is an independent. He said that in 2020, and 2016, and probably long before that too. I’m not saying he’s wrong, necessarily, but it doesn’t help us understand this particular election.

[Play Esq.]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 1:25pm

dshnookie said: "How about everybody take a break and volunteer at theirlocal food bank or battered women’s shelter, etc. and then reassess if it’s worth returning to this conversation?"

I admire the sentiment. That said I’ve spent so much time caring about people. Going to try not caring for a little bit and focus on me. Isn’t that what half the country just voted for? Maybe cynical, but an ideal solution, right?

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 1:31pm

binau said: "Independent Senator Bernie Sanders, who ran for president as a Democrat in 2016 and 2020, accused the party in a lengthy statement of abandoning working people. "While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change," he wrote. "And they’re right." He argued Democrats probably wouldn't learn from the election outcome. But Democratic National Committee Chairman Jaime Harrison responded on X that Sanders' accusation was "straight up BS".

"

I like Bernie but his theory of politics has been completely refuted. Biden focused his policy on the working class and he lost, even with the strongest labor market in decades. It isn't enough to say "you abandoned the working class" without listing what he would've done differently. Bernie was socially progressive and many voters want socially conservative policies, even if they are working class. Bernie never appealed to them, ran twice, lost worse the second time.

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 1:58pm

The last four years of leadership, including the Kamala campaign. have been so greasy with arrogance and incompetence it's really hard to pinpoint the one thing that made this election such a fiasco. 

"I'm speaking!" and trotting out Dick Cheney were really just the cherries on top of a hot two-turd sundae.  

As for Bernie, I knocked on doors throughout Pennsyltucky I was shocked at how amenable red-staters were to his ideas.  It was the liberals who wouldn't listen or take it seriously.  

Updated On: 11/9/24 at 01:58 PM

[FANtomFollies]

Posted: 11/9/24 at 2:18pm

I'm constantly surprised by the amount of people that assume that all celebrities are great people with morals and values that align with their own. Then they are suddenly shocked and disappointed when proven wrong. If we were to find out there is a MAGA actor starring in every Broadway show are we no longer going to see any shows? What about the shows creators and/or producers? I don't really have answers, just questions and thoughts.