Nicole Scherzinger- Page 3

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 3:52pm

Binau, your take is becoming somewhat ridiculous. So she isnt actively plotting against minorities in her dressing room, but she supports the people who ARE, so thats the objection, in case that wasnt clear. 

How far will you move the goalposts? Until Nicole Scherzinger personally joins a raid of a Queens building to round up undocumented people we should lay off her and let her cheer on those who are planning to do that?

Do whatever you want, no one actually thinks she can or should be fired, but the sanewashing and downplaying the gravity of the situation (the woman proudly supports actual honest to god wannaba fascists) is maddening- thats precisely why Trump won, because people like you said "ok but he hasnt actually rounded anyone up yet, he just wants to"

[SeanD2]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 3:58pm

Hey Mods... So if Nicole's publicly available political likes and such are fair game for such conversation can I post every Trump / GOP supporting person in the industry's political donation history? Trust me there's a lot!

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 4:02pm

PipingHotPiccolo said: "Binau, your take is becoming somewhat ridiculous. So she isnt actively plotting against minorities in her dressing room, but she supports the people who ARE, so thats the objection, in case that wasnt clear.

How far will you move the goalposts? Until Nicole Scherzinger personally joins a raid of a Queens building to round up undocumented people we should lay off her and let her cheer on those who are planning to do that?

Do whatever you want, no one actually thinks she can or should be fired, but the sanewashing and downplaying the gravity of the situation (the woman proudly supports actual honest to god wannaba fascists) is maddening- thats precisely why Trump won, because people like you said "ok but he hasnt actually rounded anyone up yet, he justwants to""

Trust me. Don’t waste your breath on Binau. Accountability is not in their vocabulary. They will continue to try and defend racist and facist behavior with ludicrous reasoning. 

[binau]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 4:12pm

Ensemble1698878795 if defending Patti LuPone's right to comment on the objective sound levels of a Broadway show is 'defending racist behaviour' I will continue doing so, but I don't think you know what racism actually is because that isn't racism.

And there is something so ironic about you saying that defending someone's right to vote in a free and democratic society such that they don't get cancelled is 'defending fascism'. Can't you see the irony here? 

I do think voting behaviour is complicated and for me there is a difference between voting for trump, which appears to be the majority of the population, and supporting racism and fascism. At BEST I will say that she might be unknowingly or wittingly propagating it but you all make it sound like she is on Fox News advocating for mass deportations. Gurl just seems to love Jesus. 

Also, yes obviously if I need to work the mental gymnastics to enjoy one of the greatest performances I've ever seen and have been following now for over a year I'd rather do that then get all outraged and caught up about what some dumb voter decided to do on election day in a free and democratic country. 

Just feels like y'all have to ruin all the joy. I just want the gurl to sing the damn songs would rather we leave this outrage for when it does matter such as looking at the leaders who failed us not some silly gurl who wants to sing me some songs my god. 

Updated On: 11/8/24 at 04:12 PM

[Wick3]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 4:18pm

SeanD2 said: "Hey Mods... So if Nicole's publicly available political likes and such are fair game for such conversation can I post every Trump / GOP supporting person in the industry's political donation history? Trust me there's a lot!"

I wouldn’t be surprised if some Broadway elite (producers, investors, etc.) have donated money to both parties and various superPACs.

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 4:21pm

binau said: "Ensemble1698878795 if defending Patti LuPone's right to comment on the objective sound levels of a Broadway show is 'defending racist behaviour' I will continue doing so, but I don't think you know what racism actually is because that isn't racism.

And there is something so ironic about you saying that defending someone's right to vote in a free and democratic society such that they don't get cancelled is 'defending fascism'. Can't you see the irony here?

I do think voting behaviour iscomplicated and for me there is a difference between voting for trump, which appears to be the majority of the population, and supporting racism and fascism. At BEST I will say that she might be unknowingly or wittingly propagating it but you all make it sound like she is on Fox News advocating for mass deportations. Gurl just seems to love Jesus.

Also, yes obviously if I need to work the mental gymnastics to enjoy one of the greatest performances I've ever seen and have been following now for over a year I'd rather do that then get all outraged and caught up about what some dumb voter decided to do on election day in a free and democratic country.

Just feels like y'all have to ruin all the joy. I just want the gurl to sing the damn songs would rather we leave this outrage for when it does matter such as looking at the leaders who failed us not some silly gurl who wants to sing me some songs my god."

You’re the kind of person that only acknowledges racism when a slur or violence is used. I’m amazed by the limits and mental gymnastics you jump to try and give it all the benefit of the doubt. As I said before, engaging with you is a waste of valuable time. 

[blaxx]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 4:21pm

binau says: 
I do think voting behaviour iscomplicated and for me there is a difference between voting for trump, which appears to be the majority of the population, and supporting racism ."

This is a great example as to why, up to this date, people still need to fight for their rights, respect and tolerance.

In your logic , she would have to perform an extreme act to be held responsible. You are so privileged you don't even begin tonunderstand association. I'm sorry.

[PepperedShepherd]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 4:29pm

binau said: "At BEST I will say that she might be unknowingly or wittingly propagating it but you all make it sound like she is on Fox News advocating for mass deportations. Gurl just seems to love Jesus."

She has now gone way beyond wanting a red Jesus hat.

https://x.com/mirrenelle/status/1854678508649242737

 

[binau]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 4:33pm

Ok let me pose this thought experiment (also I'm sorry to annoy, genuinely if you're sick of me just ignore me is the best way but if you don't mind discussing can continue), imagine if we found out that Nicole moonlighted giving speeches saying that she believed in all the racist and fascist things that you despise Donald Trump for but on election day she voted for Kamala Harris because she thought the economy would be better that way.

Or imagine another scenario where she voted for Donald Trump because gurl love Jesus and other gurls that love Jesus vote that way but she actually loves queers as she appears to and course gurl doesn't want her own people to be persecuted. Which is worse?

I personally would actually find it harder to enjoy her performance if I knew she actually held genuinely racist and fascist beliefs even if she voted for Kamala vs doesn't but is following the Christian herd and voted for Trump. That's all I'm trying to say. 

[blaxx]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 4:46pm

binau said: "Ok let me pose this thought experiment(also I'm sorry to annoy, genuinely if you're sick of me just ignore me is the best way but if you don't mind discussing can continue), imagine if we found out that Nicole moonlighted giving speeches saying that she believed in all the racist and fascist things that you despise Donald Trump for but on election day she voted for Kamala Harris because she thought the economy would be better that way.

Or imagine another scenario where she voted for Donald Trump because gurl love Jesus and other gurls that love Jesus vote that way but she actually loves queers as she appears to and course gurl doesn't want her own people to be persecuted. Which is worse?

I personally would actually find it harder to enjoy her performance if I knew she actually held genuinely racist and fascist beliefs even if she voted for Kamala vs doesn't but is following the Christian herd and voted for Trump. That's all I'm trying to say."

You're playing dense. You wouldn't wear a swastika to a party because you like the design and colors, would you?  

[FranklinDickson2018]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 5:03pm

Things are happening in smaller cities as well.  A friend sent me an ad from New Orleans Opera promoting the opera "Samson and Delilah"  To be "funny" they put a gif of none other than Hulk Hogan saying "get your tickets."  Seriously?  Hulk is wearing what he always wears to the MAGA rallys. (Red hat and everything.)  My friend told me someone did complain about it in the comments and the Opera Company deleted the comment.   To have this on the eve of the election is mind boggling.  Certainly it wasn't an accident by the PR person for the Company . My friend, who lives in New Orleans, told me he has a very brief response when they call and ask him for a donation   

[TheQuibbler]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 5:06pm

This may be pedantic: Just like to point out, too, that the majority of the US population did not vote for Trump. Yes, he won the election but only 39% of registered voters voted for him, which is 22% of the population. 

[Charley Kringas Inc]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 5:08pm

idk i don't know if the woman going online and posting "HELL YEAH I'M VOTING FOR THE RAPIST" needs defending

Updated On: 11/8/24 at 05:08 PM

[Claudia Draper]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 5:30pm

Ms. Trumpzinger should just embrace it.  Perform at the inauguration, invite him to a performance.  Hiding from it now is idiotic, IMO 

[kdogg36]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 5:39pm

SeanD2 said: "Hey Mods... So if Nicole's publicly available political likes and such are fair game for such conversation can I post every Trump / GOP supporting person in the industry's political donation history? Trust me there's a lot!"

I hope you do. If the moderators don't like it, take it to All That Chat; I'm quite certain it won't be removed there.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 5:47pm

Claudia Draper said: "Ms. Trumpzinger should just embrace it. Performat the inauguration, invite him to a performance. Hiding from it now is idiotic, IMO"

It's not happening. If Trump thought Megyn Kelly had “blood coming out of her wherever” (and she didn't), he's not ready for Nicole Scherzinger at the end of Sunset Blvd.

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 5:55pm

On Reddit a couple people are saying that it wasn’t her liking the RFK post, but I fan account. Can anyone corroborate? Because that is the one that is truly damming.

[Broadway61004]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 6:02pm

Here's a crazy thought:

If you don't like what she posts enough to not want to see Sunset or support her, then don't go see Sunset or support her. If you don't like what she posts but it doesn't affect your enjoyment of her as an artist (or if you do like them or whatever), then continue to go see it. It's really that simple. She's not being fired because of this and no one is forcing you to go see it. Do what you want and either see it or don't.

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 6:03pm

This whole thing is giving such 2016 vibes.

If your form of activism is boycotting her performance and switching to Mandy, absolutely do it. But to expend this much time and effort over an Instagram comment? It really feels like we’ve lost the thread. I encourage anyone who has spent more than two minutes thinking about this story to do some real reflection. Log off the internet and ask yourself where you could be putting effort into things that truly matter.

If you think this is something to ring the “fascism alarm” over, it’s going to be a long four years.

[BETTY22]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 6:05pm

Watch, when Trump is back in NYC he might go see the show.........

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 6:24pm

Osnes and Kimball?  BOOOOOO!   DISMISSED!!!  YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!!

Scherzinger?  Well....um...my slay kween is no longer in caps...? 

In all seriousness though, this is...disappointing but ultimately small potatoes.  Only you can decide if NS's support of Donald Trump is going to interfere with your experience with Sunset Boulevard.

A McCarthy-ite petition to get her fired?  The inevitable protests?  Childish.  Pure childishness, I'm sorry.  She is not going to be fired and if she was it wouldn't provide the assurance you think it's going to.  In fact, I imagine it would probably feel pretty terrible.  

Updated On: 11/8/24 at 06:24 PM

[BOM]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 6:39pm

"If you think this is something to ring the “fascism alarm” over, it’s going to be a long four years." To be fair, it will be a long four years regardless.

[Azúcar!]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 7:12pm

Do you think that if this scandal continues to escalate it would be to the broadway communtiys determent?  These are really crazy times. 

[CreatureKitchen]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 7:13pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/Broadway/s/7KIfC5yDfl

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 7:15pm

Well she literally just posted an apology where she states what her political views actually are...