Official Way Too Early 2018 Tony Predictions Thread- Page 14

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 4/11/18 at 7:30pm

Many performers have been nominated after they have left a show (or when a show has closed). I imagine the nominating committee would have seen Once On This Island earlier in its run anyway. I mean, Tony Shalhoub isn’t currently in The Band’s Visit.

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 4/11/18 at 7:44pm

Tony Shalhoub actually is still in The Band's Visit, technically. He's just on hiatus and will play certain performances for Tony voters. This something that Dandridge is not doing. I think the chances of her being nominated now are very slim.

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 4/11/18 at 7:50pm

My point is the nominators may have seen her early in the run, which doesn’t affect their opinion of her performance. They don’t all watch shows towards the end of the season. Her chances of winning after leaving, however, are slimmer.

Updated On: 4/11/18 at 07:50 PM

[Jessetenny]

Posted: 4/11/18 at 7:51pm

While I think that Merle Dandrige is deserving of a nomination, I do believe the voter's may look down on her for leaving the show so quickly, not just that she left it at all.

As for Mean Girls, I think they are going to be BIG competition for most nominations (not necessarily wins)

I think they have:

Musical

Lead Actress (Taylor over Erika if they are both placed in leading)

Featured Actress (I believe 3 of them could get in, Ashley, Kate and either Kerry or Barrett) with Lea Salonga and Lindsay Mendez being the other two

Featured Actor

Maybe Director 

Choreography

Lighting

Set Design

Book

Score
 

That's 12 nominations.. I think the only ones they really have a shot at winning is Featured Actress, Featured Actor, Book, Lighting, and Choreography.

I'm worried about Spongebob though.. I think its the best NEW musical of the season, but I feel as though people will be hesitant to award it Tony Awards. Having seen the performances, I believe that Ethan Slater SHOULD win the Tony, but I wouldnt be upset if Hadden-Paton won.

 

 

[Elegance101]

Posted: 4/11/18 at 11:55pm

Even if the nominators saw Dandrige's performance, they've been overstuffed with Featured Actress performances since then that she'll be forgotten. I don't think they'll look down on her, as she left to film a TV show, not because she was over it or something. They just won't really remember her.

Also, I don't believe Ashley Park or Kerry Butler will get nominated. I think for Mean Girls, it's between Kate Rockwell and Barrett Wilbert Weed for a Featured Actress nom (not out of the question for them both to get in, though not sure how likely that is).

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 10:36am

LOJ and Katharine McPhee are announcing the nominations this year. What a random duo.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Leslie-Odom-Jr-and-Katharine-McPhee-Will-Announce-the-Tony-Nominations-20180412

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 11:21am

BroadwayConcierge said: "LOJ and Katharine McPhee are announcing the nominations this year. What a random duo.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Leslie-Odom-Jr-and-Katharine-McPhee-Will-Announce-the-Tony-Nominations-20180412"

Not that random, they were on Smash together! 

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 11:32am

Yeah not random at all. They appeared in SMASH together, plus he's a Tony winner and she is making her Broadway debut this season. 

[JennH]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 11:33am

Notreallysilent 2 said: "Is Imogen Heap music for Harry Potter counted as an original score? I think some of the music was made specifically for the show while other songs were reused. With mean girls getting pretty poor reviews on the score is there a chance Imogen Heap could get nominated?"

I was wondering this too...the choreo certainly can and SHOULD be, but I feel this shows music lies somewhere between being an actual score and being background music...it’s an odd duck for sure. If it were a film I’d say YES 1000%, but scores for stage pieces usually refer to straight up musicals....I wouldn’t be mad at all if she were nominated for this though, I’m not overly impressed with any of the music from the actual musicals this year, and heck if it helps get that music on a soundtrack, I’m for it. 

[JudyDenmark]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 12:01pm

JennH said: "Notreallysilent 2 said: "Is Imogen Heap music for Harry Potter counted as an original score? I think some of the music was made specifically for the show while other songs were reused. With mean girls getting pretty poor reviews on the score is there a chance Imogen Heap could get nominated?"

I was wondering this too...the choreo certainly can and SHOULD be, but I feel this shows music lies somewhere between being an actual score and being background music...it’s an odd duck for sure. If it were a film I’d say YES 1000%, but scores for stage pieces usually refer to straight up musicals....I wouldn’t be mad at all if she were nominated for this though, I’m not overly impressed with any of the music from the actual musicals this year, and heck if it helps get that music on a soundtrack, I’m for it."

It's unusual, but there's precedent. Per Wikipedia: "In only five years have non-musical plays been nominated for Tony Awards in this category: Much Ado About Nothing in 1973, The Song of Jacob Zulu in 1993,Twelfth Night in 1999, Enron and Fences in 2010, and Peter and the Starcatcher and One Man, Two Guvnors in 2012."

 

[Jarethan]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 12:19pm

And at least some of those were a reflection on how bad the actual musical scores were, i.e., the nominations helped to fill in the category.  

Given the musicals this season, i imagine it is quite possible for HP to get a scoring nom.  The only sure shot is The Band's Visit.  Have they said what they are going to do about Spongebob, given the approach the show took to its score, i.e., nominate fifteen people?  Mean Girls reviews generally identified the score as the weak link (not all, but a lot of them); new Frozen songs got thoroughly mediocre reviews.  All in all, a pretty mediocre group of scores.

[LesWickedly]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 12:26pm

Jarethan, all of the composers for Spongebob will be nominated. As to the questioning of Imogen Heap getting nominated, I’d love for it to happen, but people have mentioned that is mostly just songs she has already written so not sure if it’s eligible. Who do we think will win Sound Design for a Musical? I keep forgetting the category is back and I’m so happy about it.

[Jarethan]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 12:42pm

The irony is that -- if the past is any precedent -- the scores for Mean Girls and Frozen will be nominated alongside TBV and Spongebob, in order to fill up the categories.  The Tony's have a long history of nominating undeserved candidates when the pickings are slim.  Since Mean Girls is likely to get quite a lot of nominations and Frozen is likely to get a decent number, I would expect their scores to be shoo-ins, deserved or not.

What a difference a season makes...in the past year, the scores that I play the most from last season are Bandstand (by a mile), which wasn't even nominated, and TGC, which I would assume would have won this year.  is so much more varied, complex, lush, etc.

[JudyDenmark]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 12:43pm

LesWickedly said: "Who do we think will win Sound Design for a Musical? I keep forgetting the category is back and I’m so happy about it."

Haven't seen all of the shows yet, but at the moment I'm rooting for Once on This Island. The way they use a combination of actual instruments, found "instruments," and voices to create a surround sound experience was pretty fabulous, imho. 

[Emmaloucbway]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 1:14pm

GeorgeandDot said: "Tony Shalhoub actually is still in The Band's Visit, technically. He's just on hiatus and will play certain performances for Tony voters. This something that Dandridge is not doing. I think the chances of her being nominated now are very slim."

 

Slightly off topic question, has Shalhoub’s return date/performance schedule been announce yet?

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 1:18pm

I forgot about the Smash connection, my mistake. It just initially read strangely to me that somebody who's been on Broadway for three performances ever is now announcing Tony nominees.

Can't wait for May 1!

[laugard]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 1:27pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "I forgot about theSmash connection, my mistake. It just initially read strangely to methat somebody who's been on Broadway for three performances ever is now announcing Tony nominees.

She's also on a CBS show, so that was probably a key factor as well.

 

[DeepVSexyWitch2]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 1:39pm

I think Louderman, Hensen, and Rockwell are the only actors from Mean Girls who could possibly land a nomination. If the committee ends up ruling Louderman in featured and Hennigan leading, (which is what i should be, in my opinion) than I think Louderman gets the featured nod. If she's put in leading I don't see it working out for her. 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 5:35pm

Now we know that both Levy and Murin are being considered for Lead Actress. How do we think that shapes up the nominees for that category?

Updated On: 4/12/18 at 05:35 PM

[TFMH18]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 6:08pm

^I think they'll ultimately cancel each other out, unfortunately. In my opinion there are four locks: Lenk, Kilgore, Ambrose, and Mueller. If Mean Girls knows what they're doing they'll get Louderman in lead and that's that. (All that said, no one holds a candle to Lenk to actually win the thing.) 

[Jessetenny]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 6:53pm

TFMH18 said: "^I think they'll ultimately cancel each other out, unfortunately. In my opinion there are four locks: Lenk, Kilgore, Ambrose, and Mueller. If Mean Girls knows what they're doing they'll get Louderman in lead and that's that. (All that said, no one holds a candle to Lenk to actually win the thing.)"

Have you seen all of them? I think Ambrose is her biggest competition, Kilgore however, I feel is giving the best performance and should win.

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 7:00pm

I've seen them all and Lenk blows them all out of the water. A seriously brilliant, human, and refreshing performance.

[MadsonMelo]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 7:08pm

Levy won't be nominated in lead, nor will be Patti. Louderman takes the final slot.

Also, this seals the deal with Garfield and Lane, but Gough now has competition. Can you imagine if Angels matchs 3/4? When was the last time this happens, if ever, at the Play side?

[TFMH18]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 7:57pm

Yes, I have seen them all and I stand by what I said.

[Scarlet Leigh]

Posted: 4/12/18 at 10:05pm

It's really a too each their own thing when it comes to Salonga vs Miller in OOTI. I don't think with all the promise in Mean Girls featured cast that there will not be space for them both. To me, while Lea's role might look like the more important role on paper, she faded very quickly into the background when I saw it. If I didn't know it was Lea Salonga, it could have been anyone playing that role and it would have had the same impact upon me. When it's not her one solo of the show she just is sort of around. She doesn't have much more to do. It's a one note role. She is there to be the embodiment of Love. Kenita on the other hand has a role that gives her much more to play with INCLUDING being an embodiment of love as well. Months after seeing the show, I still think of how Kenita's performance has totally changed the way I look at her character in that show. And when she doubles in the second half... the subtlety of carrying what she established as Ti Moune's mother in the first half into the second half when she is the servant in the hotel serving Ti Moune really captivated me. I would rather see Kenita get a nomination for turning a "small" role into something unexpected then see Lea get a nomination for playing a "big" role standard at best. If not for Merle leaving the show, she would have likely taken the slot from both of them but I really think her leaving is gonna affect her chance at nomination.