This show spoofs the tropes of old horror films. Dr. Frank-N-Furter aligns with a character like Dracula from the old Universal Studios film who kidnaps the unsuspecting young couple coming to his castle for assistance. He's a mad scientist who has built a monster like in the Universal Studios picture Frankenstein. Dr. Frank-N-Furter is actually the villain of the piece if it were played seriously.
Do you really want a trans individual to play the villain who kidnaps, assaults, and mutilates other characters?
If anyone’s interested in purchasing two $134 tickets (Mezz Row E 102 and 104) for 4/21, shoot me a DM!
Trans actors can play cis characters. They should be considered as much as any other actor for the part.
FYI - The HIPTIX presale is going on now, but the seats are flying. Only some left at the end of the run
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inception said: "This show spoofs the tropes if old horror films. Dr. Frank-N-Furter aligns with a character like Dracula from the old Universal Studiis film who kidnaps the unsuspecting young couple coming to his castle for assistance. He's a mad scientist who has built a monster like in the Universal Studios picture Frankenstein.Dr. Frank-N-Furter is actually thevillainof the piece if it were played seriously.
Do you really want a trans individual to play thevillainwho kidnaps, assaults, and mutilates other characters?"
Rocky Horror and Frank-N-Furter are beloved pieces of Queer and Trans culture, so yes. Yes absolutely. I literally watched a Transman two nights ago dress up as Frank for his Horror Icon in a Drag Pageant and then win the entire Pageant. Baby Love (a Transwoman) has played Frank in Trans Tellings of Rocky Horror for 2 years. This is not Black and White. Nobody in this show is viewed as a Villain, because it's satire. It's comedy. It's camp.
"If you take it seriously"
Who the **** would ever do that?
witchoftheeast2 said: "Someone who's buying a ticket solely because Luke Evans is cast might not know anything about the show, yet there's nothing anywhere on the site that tells you you're going to be part of an interactive experience. All of you are seriously okay with that? It's stupid to think everyone who buys a ticket will know that, because not everyone knows Rocky Horror. Don't assume everyone does."
That would be the MAGA conservatives who will pretend to not know the show and then complain that a trans or gay person, in skimpy clothes, came close to them and offended them. Wait for Faux News to start bashing the show and consider it sinful to attend because it goes against their Christian values.
One can of course cast a trans person in a non-trans role, but to be clear, Frank is not himself trans--never identifies as such--and therefore it should not be a requirement for a trans person to be cast. Ideally, if a trans person should be cast, it should be a transman, as Frank is gendered male explicity (it's the only way the line "You're a hot dog" works, and his name being rather phallic in nature also supports a male identiy--the stage directions also consistently use the pronoun "he" to refer to the character). I guess we're in an age where people will overreact to everything.
It is yet to be seen if Luke Evans will be a good fit for the role, but anyone losing it over the casting of a cis man needs to find a better use of their energy.
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this seems to be selling SUPER well and will likely be sold out before the run starts
I suppose there is a small niche audience who still sees ROCKY HORROR as cutting edge and / or embraces the show as a symbol for weirdo pride that lives in us all - but - to get real - the show is 50 years old and as much a popular staple at regional and community theatres as Rodgers and Hammerstein is.
The show, like Grease was written in the 70s as a nostalgic parody of the 1950s -in the case of The Rocky Horror Show, the popular "B" horror movies that played the drive in movie circuit. As such, it doesn't work to update the core aesthetic of the show or morph it into something it's not. The character of Frank-n-Further is not a celebratory trans character. The piece is not about discovering non-binary identity as we now identify it. Frank-N-Furter is a transvestite - as defined by the period in which the show was written - a man who enjoys dressing in female clothes for the sensual experience. The characters learn to 'let loose' at the end and step out of the constrictive traps of 1950s conservatism; this is not necessarily translatable to the idea of euphoria through multi- gender expressionism.
A commercial musical being produced for the Roundabout is going to be considering an aesthetic that appeals to their typical buyer -- likely people 50 and older who have nostalgic affection (different than fan obsession) with a show that has long been in the lexicon. Those of you worrying that people will be shouting along with the musical should fear not, most people have little idea of the culture of the late night movie experience, and I doubt many will be paying $300 a ticket to see this. Luke Evans is a sexy British actor - very in the vein of a young Tim Curry and seems like a good get to me. There are plenty of other ways in which the show can be 'outrageous' and still honor the intention of what the creatives have written.
Leading Actor Joined: 9/25/24
quizking101 said: "FYI - The HIPTIX presale is going on now, but the seats are flying. Only some left at the end of the run"
So stupid to be on the Criterion app, it makes it so difficult to buy the tickets even though I'm verified as a HipTix member.
witchoftheeast2 said: "quizking101 said: "FYI - The HIPTIX presale is going on now, but the seats are flying. Only some left at the end of the run"
So stupid to be on the Criterion app, it makes it so difficult to buy the tickets even though I'm verified as a HipTix member."
I gave up. So stupid.
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inception said: "This show spoofs the tropes ofold horror films. Dr. Frank-N-Furter aligns with a character like Dracula from the old Universal Studios film who kidnaps the unsuspecting young couple coming to his castle for assistance. He's a mad scientist who has built a monster like in the Universal Studios picture Frankenstein.Dr. Frank-N-Furter is actually thevillainof the piece if it were played seriously.
Do you really want a trans individual to play thevillainwho kidnaps, assaults, and mutilates other characters?"
do i want a trans person to reclaim the tropes used against us? 100%, especially compared to a cis person just pushing those tropes without reclamation or subversion 🤷♂️ a cis person doing it is mockery imo. i feel like there's this "well frank is male in the text" that's being used to ignore the like explicit transmisogyny which has been a topic of discussion in my rocky horror circles for years. but i've had cis people telling me to shut up about this since the announcement so this'll be my last take on it on the forum :p
Leading Actor Joined: 9/25/24
TotallyEffed said: "witchoftheeast2 said: "quizking101 said: "FYI - The HIPTIX presale is going on now, but the seats are flying. Only some left at the end of the run"
So stupid to be on the Criterion app, it makes it so difficult to buy the tickets even though I'm verified as a HipTix member."
I gave up. So stupid."
I wonder what prompted the change because it was perfect before!
QueenAlice said: "A commercial musical being produced for the Roundabout is going to be considering an aesthetic that appeals to their typical buyer -- likely people 50 and older who have nostalgic affection (different than fan obsession) with a show that has long been in the lexicon. Those of you worrying that people will be shouting along with the musical should fear not, most people have little idea of the culture of the late night movie experience, and I doubt many will be paying $300 a ticket to see this. Luke Evans is a sexy British actor - very in the vein of a young Tim Curry and seems like a good get to me. There are plenty of other ways in which the show can be 'outrageous' and still honor the intention of what the creatives have written."
A lot of people who are 50 and older are well aware of the call backs, etc, and certainly every amateur and local production of the musical I've seen has had them (as did a filmed for UK TV UK tour 10 or so years ago...)
I saw Luke Evans years back in Miss Saigon and he had great stage presence. Of course it did seem like he went from a very out stage actor (I remember when he was in a play about porn, one gay UK magazine asking him about his fave porn) to, when he first went Hollywood and they were trying to market him as an action star, suddenly very much seeming to be back in the closet (though he has said this never happened--there were pics of him with various women, etc.) Of course eventually he did come back out publicly. Anyway--I think he could be a good fit for the role.
was secretly hoping for John Cameron Mitchell as Frank........ but now i think he'd make a great Riff.
anyhoo, got my tix and am looking forward to it!
QueenAlice said: "I suppose there is a small niche audience who still sees ROCKY HORROR as cutting edge and / or embraces the show as a symbol for weirdopride that lives in us all - but - to get real - the show is 50 years old and as much a popular staple at regional and community theatres as Rodgers and Hammerstein is.
The show, like Grease was written in the 70s as a nostalgic parody of the 1950s -in the case of The Rocky Horror Show, the popular "B" horror movies that played the drive in movie circuit. As such, it doesn't work to update the core aesthetic of the show or morph it into something it's not. The character of Frank-n-Further is not a celebratory trans character. The piece is not about discovering non-binary identity as we now identify it. Frank-N-Furter is a transvestite - as defined by the period in which the show was written - a man who enjoys dressing in female clothes for the sensual experience. The characters learn to 'let loose' at the end and step out of the constrictive traps of 1950s conservatism; this is not necessarily translatable to the idea of euphoria through multi- gender expressionism.
A commercial musical being produced for the Roundabout is going to be considering an aesthetic that appeals to their typical buyer -- likely people 50 and older who have nostalgic affection (different than fan obsession) with a show that has long been in the lexicon. Those of you worrying that people will be shouting along with the musical should fear not, most people have little idea of the culture of the late night movie experience, and I doubt many will be paying $300 a ticket to see this. Luke Evans is a sexy British actor - very in the vein of a young Tim Curry and seems like a good get to me. There are plenty of other ways in which the show can be 'outrageous' and still honor the intention of what the creatives have written."
Nope. Frank-N-Furter doesn’t enjoy dressing in female clothes for the sensual experience.
He is from another planet: Transexual - and on that planet that is just how they dress.
CarlosAlberto said: "QueenAlice said: "I suppose there is a small niche audience who still sees ROCKY HORROR as cutting edge and / or embraces the show as a symbol for weirdopride that lives in us all - but - to get real - the show is 50 years old and as much a popular staple at regional and community theatres as Rodgers and Hammerstein is.
The show, like Grease was written in the 70s as a nostalgic parody of the 1950s -in the case of The Rocky Horror Show, the popular "B" horror movies that played the drive in movie circuit. As such, it doesn't work to update the core aesthetic of the show or morph it into something it's not. The character of Frank-n-Further is not a celebratory trans character. The piece is not about discovering non-binary identity as we now identify it. Frank-N-Furter is a transvestite - as defined by the period in which the show was written - a man who enjoys dressing in female clothes for the sensual experience. The characters learn to 'let loose' at the end and step out of the constrictive traps of 1950s conservatism; this is not necessarily translatable to the idea of euphoria through multi- gender expressionism.
A commercial musical being produced for the Roundabout is going to be considering an aesthetic that appeals to their typical buyer -- likely people 50 and older who have nostalgic affection (different than fan obsession) with a show that has long been in the lexicon. Those of you worrying that people will be shouting along with the musical should fear not, most people have little idea of the culture of the late night movie experience, and I doubt many will be paying $300 a ticket to see this. Luke Evans is a sexy British actor - very in the vein of a young Tim Curry and seems like a good get to me. There are plenty of other ways in which the show can be 'outrageous' and still honor the intention of what the creatives have written."
Nope. Frank-N-Furter doesn’t enjoy dressing in female clothes for the sensual experience.
He is from another planet: Transexual - and on that planet that is just how they dress.
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Tim Curry says this, too.
Honestly, I disagree. If that were the case, why does Riff wear men's clothes for most of the show, only donning stockings when he usurps Frank's place? And why is Frank flaunting and identifying his clothing choices to Brad and Janet as his most salient quality, if they are simply the norm where he comes from? Why is the line "I wanted to be dressed just the same" immediately followed by "Give yourselve over to absolute pleasure" if there is no connection between how he dresses and "sensual daydreams beyond any measure"? And, taking the movie into account, why are none of the Transylvanians crossdressing?
I think it is a fetish for Frank. I think it's part of the "too extreme lifestyle" that Riff condemns him for (in the original costuming, Riff keeps his stockings partially hidden under his spacesuit--to me signifying he has similar urges but believes they miust be repressed to some extent). I think, given that sexual pleasure is central to the show, even if everyone on his home planet does dress that way, it's an indication that the fetish is shared by those on his planet. It doesn't make sense for it to mean no more to him than wearing jeans does to us.
I get there's no "real" answer here. It can be however the actor or director sees it. And audiences are free to interpret it as they like. But that's my interpretation based on the script and typical costuming.
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Updated On: 10/30/25 at 10:47 PM
It's in part a fetish thing (which is driven home by Shock Treatment, in which the dressup-fetish subplot is brought to the forefront repeatedly), and in part an act of transgression and rebellion. Remember, Tim Curry camped it up for the film, whereas onstage he played the role of Frank as a macho, aggressive rocker who just happened to be dressed in lingerie.
Remember what was going on in pop culture at the time, divorced from the show's nostalgia: the early days of glam rock. Alice Cooper wore a corset and heels in his early incarnations, Steven Tyler's high heels and flamboyant scarves made his image, and David Bowie wore dresses, skirts, jumpsuits and more. Bowie's long-debated sexual orientation aside, the transgressive world of rock and roll cross dressing was almost entirely hetero. Within ten years, glam metal and hair bands would take this to a logical extreme.
darquegk said: "It's in part a fetish thing (which is driven home by Shock Treatment, in which the dressup-fetish subplot is brought to the forefront repeatedly), and in part an act of transgression and rebellion. Remember, Tim Curry camped it up for the film, whereas onstage he played the role of Frank as a macho, aggressive rocker who just happened to be dressed in lingerie.
Remember what was going on in pop culture at the time, divorced from the show's nostalgia: the early days of glam rock. Alice Cooper wore a corset and heels in his early incarnations, Steven Tyler's high heels and flamboyant scarves made his image, andDavid Bowie wore dresses, skirts, jumpsuits and more. Bowie's long-debated sexual orientation aside, the transgressive world of rock and rollcross dressing was almost entirely hetero. Within ten years, glam metal and hair bands would take this to a logical extreme."
If you look at pics from the stage production, or listen to the Original London Cast recording, you'll see he camped it up onstage, too (the Roxy presents a somewhat more butch Frank). Reviews of both London and L.A. productions compare him to various female movie stars, with an emphasis on Joan and Bette.
I’ve listened to various “Rocky Horror” recordings and IMHO, Susan Sarandon - who is not known for primarily being a singer is the best “Janet”.
CarlosAlberto said: "I’ve listened to various “Rocky Horror” recordings and IMHO, Susan Sarandon - who is not known for primarily being a singer is the best “Janet”."
I wish I could have seen Alice in the role, because her vocals on the revival cast recording were in her PRIME!
Dreamcasting here, but if I’m wanting a queer/queer-adjacent AF cast:
- Dylan Mulvaney as Janet
- Conrad Ricamora as Brad
- Cameron Loyal as Rocky
- Lea DeLaria as the Narrator/Criminologist
- Chris Renfro as Riff Raff
I’m blanking on Eddie, Magenta, and Columbia
Evans will be amazing. We've got tickets now. This is selling really well. This will be a hit for Roundabout
CarlosAlberto said: "I’ve listened to various “Rocky Horror” recordings and IMHO, Susan Sarandon - who is not known for primarily being a singer is the best “Janet”."
Her light, high voice conveys a quality of sweetness/innocense other, more powerful singers lack, but I've enjoyed most of the Janets on the various recordings. Not to knock Sarandon, at all. She's wonderful.
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