The 74th Annual Tony Awards (2021) - News & Discussion Thread — Page 4

Sutton Ross said: "Did I miss where it said they would only be nominating two people for that category? If so, my apologies."


Aaron Tveit and Chris McCarrell are the only eligible people, since it turns out West Side Story and North Country are ineligible.

What a joke! Truly Pathetic!

This is....interesting. I second the notion that they combine categories and take out musical/play distinctions. That would make for a much more interesting race.

HenryTDobson said: "This is....interesting. I second the notion that they combine categories and take out musical/play distinctions.That would make for a much more interesting race."

I can't see them combining plays and musicals together into "Best New Production" and "Best Revival Production."

I CAN however see them combining new and revival of each to make it just "Best Play, New or Revival)" and "Best Musical, New or Revival." But then yeah I could see them combine all the designs into just "Best Set, light, sound, etc." And acting goes down to 4 awards into just actor/actress in play and musical.

Maybe this was not such a lucky break for some of these shows as I originally thought.

The lack of nominees likely means The Lightning Thief could snag 10 nominations.

Updated On: 8/21/20 at 10:28 PM

LesWickedly said: "I was fine with Tveit's performance. Not revolutionary, but there's been multiple years with underwhelming wins, it's just natural. You have a year like 2017 where every Best Musical nominee could have won in another year and followed directly by that you had 2018 where The Band's Visit was the only worthymusical (albeit one of the most worthy ever).While yes there were some exciting shows coming in, this was already seen as a very weak season. I love the Tonys and respect their significance and meaning (which is why I'm not really for the Best Ensemble Tony, unless it is just a production award and not awarded specifically to each performer), but this is a time like no other and having a Tonys like no other just is fitting. Again, as I stated before, Adrienne, Danny and Lauren were already favorites to win andbeing so hung over Aaron winning is frankly ridiculous. Again, it was shaping up to be a weak year leading actor wise too.

I just don't really understand why people are being so negative about this. I don't think anyone in the future will hold this ceremony to the same standards as other years. It'llalwaysbe regarded as the Tonys the year of the shutdown. At this point it is very likely we won't get the awards next year. I've honestly been typing too long and forget what I've even said but pretty much there has been weak seasons before, don't let your personal hangups be a reason to act like handing out awards is disgraceful.

To top this all off, I'm rooting for Jagged to win (and yes, despite the many criticisms, think it would've had good chance to win in the full season.) A show that (,maybe in too many ways tries to,)speaks to now and I do think the Tonys will take note of that, especially with the state of the country being what it is and these awards nowtaking place assumingely weeks/days before the election."

Fully agree on Jagged. It would’ve been pressed to fight against North Country and Six, but it stands strong even without those two taken out of the race. Plus its relevance, not to mention the cast, are factors that are totally gonna help it upon reopening. I mean, Lauren Patten is a front-runner for Supporting and could probably win it on the basis of “You Oughta Know” alone, Elizabeth Stanley still has a shot for Leading despite going up against Warren, Antonio Cipriano is a heartthrob among the Broadway stans, not to mention the huge fanbases behind Klena and Gallagher. (Krill and Gooding are also just as incredible!)

Also, if they were to implement the Ensemble award this year to try and flesh things out (cough cough), this one is *really* promising.

I really think they have it in the bag. Alanis might make her 2020s comeback after all.

these awards make literally no sense. shows aren't playing so voters can't go see anything. barely any shows opened and played at all.

JBroadway said: "Sutton Ross said: "Yes to all of these, and I absolutely think Aaron will be nominated for his heartbreaking, gorgeous work in Moulin Rouge! over anything in the extremely problematic WSS."



Obviously you and I disagree about Tveit, which is totally fine - it's all subjective, and we're all entitled to our opinions. But some food for thought:

If we're introducing "problematic" into the equation, is it really better to award a white actor over an actor of color, simply because the actor of color is in the same cast as a sex offender? Especially when the actor of color has received a ton of praise for his performance?

Not trying to attack you or criticize you. I mean this all with respect.It's just an alternate perspective on the reasoning you gave. And ultimately, I don't expect to change your mind about Tveit, or West Side Story.

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First off, there are no sex offenders on Broadway. And, to mention such when it had nothing at all to do with the discussion is a bit much. And, yes, I know what you’re talking about, I used to work at NYCB.



But, in any case, I am not sure how I feel about this. I honestly think that they just should have bypassed this year. What does the professional theatre community stand to gain from this? There aren’t live performances going on for non theatre people to check out etc and they are basically awarding half of a season. A vast majority of the spring shows never opened on time.



The only think that would surprise me is if Slave Play doesn’t win best play. I am not talking about the quality of the work or anything of that nature. There’s politics involved in every awards show. That said, since Slave Play closed, we have seen the murder of George Floyd, the worldwide Black Lives Matter protests and that document that came out talking about how white theatre owners and operators etc can do things to make it better for the black community. I have the feeling that The League wants try and change their image when it comes to diversity on Broadway. That said, giving the award to Slave Play does just that.

The plays may not re-open but the Tony nominations for Best Play determine which ones will be produced by regional theaters in the near future. I cannot say if regional theaters will ever re-open after 2020 but some of this fall's new plays will get recognition. I was one of the folks who really enjoyed The Inheritance and would like to see the cast (particularly Andrew Burnap and Kyle Soller) get some recognition for their work.

I concur competitive categories makes little to no sense. Sure, it happened in the past, but who respects SUNSET as a Best Musical winner?

They should give citations like the Obie Awards. Then, performances. Don't make folks dress up from their d*mn homes only to lose a category with 3 people in it. No glamour, just their living room after.

And what a shame about WSS and GFNC. Those two could've made a couple categories slightly competitive.